British MP banned from entering Canada
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I think this TheStar.com | Canada | Jewish group proud of role in barring Galloway tells the story.
Jewish group proud of role in barring Galloway
Jewish group proud of role in barring Galloway
Except that they had nothing to do with it. They might claim responsibility, but it is the Canadian Border Services that kept him out, as they should have done.
He gave a terrorist group cash. That is illegal in Canada. Whether or not you like Hamas being on the list is irrelevant, as Canadian law now stands, he is a supporter of a terrorist group, and therefore SHOULD be kept out of Canada.
WHY is that so hard to grasp?????????????
Colpy....I had previously indicated here that the $45K to Hamas was problematic for him and the judge today agreed with the government. You are dreaming if you think that the Canadian Border Services were directly responsible for keeping him out. This decision came down from above. In my opinion, the JDL didn't have to lobby this one, only notify. The present government's (notoriously) unbalanced treatment of Israel/Palestine affairs made the decision a no brainer.
WHY is that so hard to grasp?????????????
WHY is that so hard to grasp?????????????
There is no balance necessary.
Israel is a western-style democracy, our ally, a nation of rule-of-law, within which all people vote and have representation in the Knesset.
The Palestinian people have chosen to be represented by Hamas, a terrorist organization, Islamo-fascists that are armed and supported and directed by Iran and Syria, and is (rightfully) on the list of terrorist organizations. They have made themselves our enemy.
No balance is necessary.
It is a war. Pick a side.
He supported Palestinians NOT Hamas. Why can't that be chipped into your cold, hard melon? Would you punish Cansave because funds directed to them are often paid as door-opening bribes to some unfriendly governments? Seriously, Colpy, you and your kind deserve to spend some time as inmates in one of those refugee centres.
Pick a side? I have been neutral despite all I have seen. Lately, that hasn't come so easily because I realize I have been making conscious effort to be indifferent. Foreign lobbyists in my country influencing my government to favour one side over another is really starting to piss me off.
I have been fired on by Israel. Many times I wished I'd have blasted that buck-toothed little snot nose right out from behind his chopper door gun. They're no damned friend of mine. Believe me.... I am leaning toward an awful truth....
I am not so silly as to pretend neutrality.......when it come to a fight between western civilization and medieval loonies....I know which side I'm on.
Lately, I suppose I have been pretending. I was neutral once upon a time....
Before that, I believed the Sunday School variant of an Israel filled with good shepherds and benevolent wise men. What a crock of shyte!
Colpy....you say no balance is necessary. You are right. Balance is not necessary but it would be the sensible approach to the Middle East as it was with previous governments. But then again, nobody ever accused the Harper government of being "sensible" (or balanced).:lol::lol:
Israel is a western-style democracy, our ally, a nation of rule-of-law, within which all people vote and have representation in the Knesset.
Which is precisely why I hold it to a greater standard. And the "rule of law" thing???..maybe when compared to some other mideast countries but that's not a very high standard.
They have made themselves our enemy.
No, not quite. Israel has made them (Hamas and Hezbollah) Israel's enemy!
Israel is a western-style democracy, our ally, a nation of rule-of-law, within which all people vote and have representation in the Knesset.
Which is precisely why I hold it to a greater standard. And the "rule of law" thing???..maybe when compared to some other mideast countries but that's not a very high standard.
They have made themselves our enemy.
No, not quite. Israel has made them (Hamas and Hezbollah) Israel's enemy!
Of course it is a crock, Lone Wolf. Israel has its share of loonies, some of them in gov't.
It is simply (much) better than the alternative.
IMHO.
I agree with Lone Wolf, Canada should be neutral in this conflict.
I agree with Canada's stand regarding Hamas. Hamas has committed war crimes by deliberately attacking civilians. We should only give humanitarian relief to the NGO's that operate in Gaza. People should not give Hamas money.
For the same reasons, I disagree with Canada's support for the Zionist State of Israel. Israel has committed war crimes and commits crimes against humanity. Again we should only give humanitarian relief to the NGO's that operate in Israel.
I support AI's position regarding Israel:
If we support Israel, we become complicit in their criminal activity. Canada should classify the Zionist State of Israel a terrorist state based on their illegal actvities which violate international law and meet Canada's definition of serious war crimes and crimes against humanity.
If Canada ban people like Galloway from entering Canada, then we should also ban anyone who similarly supports the terrorist State of Israel.
I disagree with the direction the Harper government has taken Canada.
I have a problem with Canada supporting Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I agree with Canada's stand regarding Hamas. Hamas has committed war crimes by deliberately attacking civilians. We should only give humanitarian relief to the NGO's that operate in Gaza. People should not give Hamas money.
For the same reasons, I disagree with Canada's support for the Zionist State of Israel. Israel has committed war crimes and commits crimes against humanity. Again we should only give humanitarian relief to the NGO's that operate in Israel.
I support AI's position regarding Israel:
Amnesty International urges freeze on arms sales to Israel
By Amira Hass
More than 20 countries sold Israel weapons and munitions whose use during Operation Cast Lead could constitute war crimes and might pose serious infractions of international law, according to a report to be released by Amnesty International on Monday.
The United States is at the top of the list of arms exporters to Israel, but France, Romania, Bosnia and Serbia are listed as well. Amnesty's report, entitled, "Fueling Conflict: Foreign Arms supplies to Israel/Gaza," details arms sales to Israel between 2004 and 2007, and publishes some of the organization's findings on the use of such weapons against civilians and civilian targets.
"Direct attacks on civilians and civilian objects, disproportionate attacks and indiscriminate attacks are war crimes," the report states, describing such attacks during the war in Gaza. The organization recommends that all arms sales to Israel be frozen until "there is no longer a substantial risk that such equipment will be used for serious violations of international humanitarian law and human rights abuses."...
Amnesty International urges freeze on arms sales to Israel - Haaretz - Israel News
If we support Israel, we become complicit in their criminal activity. Canada should classify the Zionist State of Israel a terrorist state based on their illegal actvities which violate international law and meet Canada's definition of serious war crimes and crimes against humanity.
If Canada ban people like Galloway from entering Canada, then we should also ban anyone who similarly supports the terrorist State of Israel.
I disagree with the direction the Harper government has taken Canada.
Canada becomes Israel
Yves Engler, The Electronic Intifada, 12 February 2009
(EI Illustration)
Canadian Prime Minister Steven Harper's government publicly supported Israel's brutal assault on Gaza and voted alone at the UN Human Rights Committee in defense of Israel's actions three weeks ago. Now Canada has taken over Israeli diplomacy. Literally.
In solidarity with Gaza, Venezuela expelled Israel's ambassador at the start of the bombardment and then broke off all diplomatic relations two weeks later. Israel need not worry since Ottawa plans to help out. On 29 January, The Jerusalem Post reported that "Israel's interests in Caracas will now be represented by the Canadian Embassy." This means Canada is officially Israel, at least in Venezuela.
Prior to the recent bombing in Gaza, the Harper government made it abundantly clear that it would support Israel no matter what that country did...
ei: Canada becomes Israel
I have a problem with Canada supporting Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity.
That would be the end of the fringe left Lone...:lol:
You do know you're talking about a man that tried to have someone banned from the UK because of their opinion right?
You do understand laws and how they are applied right?
No, it was handed right to the head of Hamas. It wasn't channeled, it wasn't given to any Gaza aid stations, it was handed directly to the leader of the Hamas.
See above.
Moot point now.
Look who you're talking too.
As it should.
No we shouldn't, Hamas is a terrorist group, plain and simple.
The coward that red rep'd post #122, should first grow some balls and sign their rep, like I do, good or bad. Then just simply grow up.
The concept that fairness be applied to one and all is what this country is supposed to be based on freedom and rights..
So tell me what Ann Wright did wrong ?
This is what I worry about.. Now we are banning everyone one as it started with a single person and now is moving to everyone we do not like.. Who is next, the person with GREEN eyes ?
Ann Wright - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now again,
So tell me what Ann Wright did wrong ?
Who or what terrorist organization did she give money too ?
So tell me what Ann Wright did wrong ?
Who or what terrorist organization did she give money too ?
Eddie Greenspan, whose opinion I value, after the verdict, said it was all about freedom of speech. I won't change my mind, either, shrill voices or no shrill voices.