The Improbability of God

[MHz]

Oh well, none of us can be perfect, I suppose.

And you do such a fine job of showing us that, actually on a very consistent basis, the puzzling part is why you use yourself and your life as the example of what-not-to-do.

Since you claim to be god (asking for funds post) but that does fall short of being perfect then you would seem to be an inferior product when compared to the qualities of the one in Scripture. Godless should be a label you would wear proudly, the other labels you own would be able to determine just how godless you really are.

 

[MHz]

If you were, you would be a god!

Well he might even hear an "Oh, god, oh, god" when he's being poked up the ass, most likely if he does hear that it is an echo of his own voice.

 

[petros]

Radical Christians and wayward Jews strap their explosives to things called planes. In an event like 7-7 they use patties unless you think Muslim back-pack bombers had time to crawl under a (moving) train so the explosions pushed the floor-boards upward through a set of physics that are only available to Muslim bombers.

How many North American abortion clinics have been blown up by Muslims or is that just a Christian thing?

 

[Cliffy]

And you do such a fine job of showing us that, actually on a very consistent basis, the puzzling part is why you use yourself and your life as the example of what-not-to-do.

Since you claim to be god (asking for funds post) but that does fall short of being perfect then you would seem to be an inferior product when compared to the qualities of the one in Scripture. Godless should be a label you would wear proudly, the other labels you own would be able to determine just how godless you really are.

As usual you missed the intent of my post. I said the media has done a good job of portraying radical Muslims as mad bombers. I am fully aware of radical religious of every stripe killing in the name of god. But, according to our media, Muslims are terrorists, while crazy Christians and Jews are freedom fighters. They're all fruit loops as far as I'm concerned.

It is why I have no use or need for religion. It brings out the worst in human behaviour. I have my own personal views of spirituality that come from a study of all religious, philosophical and metaphysical writings, but mostly my own personal experiences of "divine" manifestation in my life. I don't need religion or religious texts to tell me how to behave or what is right and wrong.

The Catholic church opposed the translation of the bible into common language because they knew that in the hands of the uninitiated it would become a destructive force and they were right. Of course, they also knew that it would undermine their claim to authority, and that is what has happened... and that is a good thing, it was just not enough.

 

[Cliffy]

Well he might even hear an "Oh, god, oh, god" when he's being poked up the ass, most likely if he does hear that it is an echo of his own voice.

That is nasty! I can imagine you masturbating while reading the bible just as easily, or sleeping with it tightly tucked between your cheeks.

 

[Spade]

The god du jour.
Today's god is Saturn - hence SaturnDay!

He is the Roman god of agriculture, and of course, everyone knows he gave us Christmas (Saturnalia)
Saturn, Roman god of the harvest and a planet.
Any requests for tomorrow?

 

[MHz]

How many North American abortion clinics have been blown up by Muslims or is that just a Christian thing?

I have no idea?......why would it matter if it was an abortion clinic in North America or on some other continent? I'll let you you supply the data. Who wages wars against the unborn? If it is such a good thing it should be done as day surgery in a 'big' hospital, why it is 'set aside' in the first place. Insanity is not limited by race or religion. All it takes is a PO'd boyfriend who lost the kid with no choice to blame the clinic and there goes your blanket reason for an attack that is completely free from religion.
Now you seem to have some sort of data already that coves each of these questions.(any link will do).
How many abortion clinics (by continent)? W
What % of all abortions are performed at these specific clinics?
How many attacks?
What % involved injuries?
How many arrests and convictions?

How many letters with specific threats might be important overall but not right now.

What % took place in NA compared to other continents? From there you might be able to detect a higher rate based on religion. # of operations/year and such would indicate the size of the issue. Do Muslim, Christian, etc areas have higher/lower numbers in facilities and attacks and any other data that is available.
If that depth is not possible then why bring it up in the 1st place?

 

[eanassir]

How many North American abortion clinics have been blown up by Muslims or is that just a Christian thing?

We can discover this trick as follows:

Muslims do not like the abortion clinics; could be.

North America are not Islamic states, neither are they governed by the Islamic law.

Then how can Muslims object to non-Islamic states that are not governed by the Islamic law; they may say their opinion, but how can they blow up such clinics?

If that occurred in Muslim countries, then it may be agreed it might have happened; but in North America: this has certainly been done by others, and ascribed to them.

This is what I think, and God is All-Knowing.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

How many North American abortion clinics have been blown up by Muslims or is that just a Christian thing?

That is just a Christian thing Petros; I don’t think Islam forbids abortion. Muslims content themselves with ‘only’ killing homosexuals. (and of course, with killing Muslim women, to preserve their ‘honour’).

 

[MHz]

That is nasty! I can imagine you masturbating while reading the bible just as easily, or sleeping with it tightly tucked between your cheeks.

8O Tell me you didn't but bible and master-beatin in the same line because SJP is chanting scripture when...well you know when.
Haven't you heard there are free streaming video sites all over the net. You have to actually put blockers on browsers. Let alone the sites that people actually pay money for. Some that require registration (any e-mail address) have pages and pages of links to entire sites that are totally free, even from advert. The video quality is almost as good as the documentary channel which streams in HD. So now you know, all the buttons on the gay links are still as found too BTW LOL I could give you the link but no...go find it yourself to see that I was telling the truth.

 

[MHz]

We can discover this trick as follows:

Muslims do not like the abortion clinics; could be.

North America are not Islamic states, neither are they governed by the Islamic law.

Then how can Muslims object to non-Islamic states that are not governed by the Islamic law; they may say their opinion, but how can they blow up such clinics?

If that occurred in Muslim countries, then it may be agreed it might have happened; but in North America: this has certainly been done by others, and ascribed to them.

This is what I think, and God is All-Knowing.

LOL Too bad my post above (abortion clinics)wasn't a few minutes earlier. I'm not expecting anyone to supply the data, it would prove them to be liars without a doubt.

I don't have a verse for the irony that happens when your (ones blowing up clinics)own dog bites you on the ass (by not keeping the ratio of attacks higher in Muslim areas of the world). This is even better that two Christians agreeing on something lol

 

[MHz]

That is just a Christian thing Petros; I don’t think Islam forbids abortion. Muslims content themselves with ‘only’ killing homosexuals. (and of course, with killing Muslim women, to preserve their ‘honour’).

Remember that guy who said he could live on McDonald's for a month? I want you to video-tape you experiences (well the ones in public only) in an strictly old Jewish neighborhood in downtown (any large city in the world)and any have contact with them members of that whole community. You have to approach a different man each time you are wanting sex, no limit on the # of times other than at least 1/day. Feel free to add some things of your own here. Be sure to give somebody this address so they can let us know how the 30 days end if you are unable to do so on your own. Has to be old Jewish.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Well he might even hear an "Oh, god, oh, god" when he's being poked up the ass, most likely if he does hear that it is an echo of his own voice.

That is nasty! I can imagine you masturbating while reading the bible just as easily, or sleeping with it tightly tucked between your cheeks.

Cliffy, what can you expect from a religious fanatic, a religious extremist? Religious extremists are by definition nasty, that is what makes them extremist in the first place.

That has been my experience anyway, the more religious, more Bible thumping a person is, the more nasty he is. The ultimate of course can be found in abortion clinic bombers or with religious right Leaders such as Pat Robertson, (late) Jerry Falwaell, Dr. Dobson (of Focus on the Family etc. These gentlemen and their organization positively drip with hatred, with vitriol.

So it is not surprising that religious extremists in this forum come across as nasty. I think they get more brownie points with their God if they are particularly nasty and insulting.

 

[MHz]

Cliffy, what can you expect from a religious fanatic, a religious extremist? Religious extremists are by definition nasty, that is what makes them extremist in the first place.

I'm trying to find out if you are worth the money you are demanding. Surely you allow that in your godless kingdom. It would seem most likely (to someone standing on the side)that a claim to being god is more in the extreme that one who claims to be a follower of one and only one particular God. It almost makes me shutter to wonder what solution he would come up with for those he sees as being extremists if he was ever given free reign. (needing something that important is a sign of a false-god so don't forget the check-mark)

That has been my experience anyway, the more religious, more Bible thumping a person is, the more nasty he is. The ultimate of course can be found in abortion clinic bombers or with religious right Leaders such as Pat Robertson, (late) Jerry Falwaell, Dr. Dobson (of Focus on the Family etc. These gentlemen and their organization positively drip with hatred, with vitriol.

Christ never took away the right to use words as a means of defense. Apparently they can be used in an aggressive manner also, depending on who the effect will vary. Those with low self esteem will show the greatest reaction to even slightly aggressive words. It referred to as having gotten your goat. Those who have something called a spine either do not show anybody where their goat is or (the best method) they have sold all their goats so there is nothing that is ever available for theft.

So it is not surprising that religious extremists in this forum come across as nasty. I think they get more brownie points with their God if they are particularly nasty and insulting.

That would mean a very few in real numbers, certainly in the single-digits and I keep track of stats like that.

Compared to our lost cousins we are quite harmless in things other than words.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Is that a scientific analysis of the situation? You know the same science that might have a completely different view tomorrow or the next day, depending on which scientist has the right answer, on basically anything that science has ever covered.

Scientific thinking changes its mind when data indicate that what it believes is incorrect. Religious thinking changes the data to conform to what it believes is correct, and does not change its mind.

 

[talloola]

Yes, our brains are our power, and we have the flexibility to alter our thinking when we see the obvious, proven in a scientific manner, which allows us to move
forward and keep on a track which is realistic and factual. Science will not allow
us to roam all over the place with non proven answers, and be satisfied, which would put us in the same place as religions, who are competing with each other,
over their own beliefs, and non of them can prove anything.

I am not a scientist, haven't got a clue in that department, but I am logical and
realistic and not ever caught up in the wonderment and what ifs and maybe, or
ever drawn into the religious areas where they believe in many different possibilities which have never been proven in any way.

 

[Cannuck]

I am not a scientist, haven't got a clue in that department, but I am logical and realistic and not ever caught up in the wonderment and what ifs and maybe, or ever drawn into the religious areas where they believe in many different possibilities which have never been proven in any way.

That's too bad. I feel sorry for you.

 

[talloola]

That's too bad. I feel sorry for you.

Don't know why anyone would feel sorry for me, and my statement above which
you quoted applies to 'religion' only, not the normal functions of imagination.

 

[petros]

I saw God or possibly the Holy Spirit raise a Wal * Mart bag up into heaven today.

 

[MHz]

Yes, our brains are our power, and we have the flexibility to alter our thinking when we see the obvious, proven in a scientific manner, which allows us to move
forward and keep on a track which is realistic and factual. Science will not allow
us to roam all over the place with non proven answers, and be satisfied, which would put us in the same place as religions, who are competing with each other,
over their own beliefs, and non of them can prove anything.

I am not a scientist, haven't got a clue in that department, but I am logical and
realistic and not ever caught up in the wonderment and what ifs and maybe, or
ever drawn into the religious areas where they believe in many different possibilities which have never been proven in any way.

When exploring writings do you use the right or left side more often? One is better at abstract things the other is better with -how-things-work types of problems. ie Cliffy uses 1 side that allows him ti incorporate symbolic things in his artwork but he has trouble programming a digital wrist-watch.

Scientific thinking changes its mind when data indicate that what it believes is incorrect. Religious thinking changes the data to conform to what it believes is correct, and does not change its mind.

Both require questioning minds and both can (that should be are in all caps)be resistant to current beliefs being shown to being in error. That religion has been successful in halting questions (at the point of the end of any explanation given by a recognized authority within that body). Follow-ups are discouraged and preaching to the preacher usually stuns the preacher and the congregation. They fear being shown to be in error (about their derived meaning not the validity of Scripture). Just like your fear is that somebody somewhere might come up with an answer you have no rebuttal to. You would have to concede that the Bible is based on something more than a loosly held together set of seemingly unrelated stories, history, and prophecies are the result of one single author because it is beyond our power to create such a document even these days. That doesn't mean you would know squat about the interior of Scriptures, only that there mush have been men that were much more advanced than we are (to be able to assemble the Bible) or the Bible has one common source of knowledge.

We have covered this before, before you bother to post anything more about Scripture you have to reply to the banking topic. If you don't like that stipulation, too bad.

I saw God or possibly the Holy Spirit raise a Wal * Mart bag up into heaven today.

Why would God not want you to have Walmart things?