Another Female Pedophile Caught. In the Act Even.

Cannuck

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Yes, and I'm quite sure that the overwhelming majority of those on this site speak English. Why do you ask?
 

Cannuck

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The jurisdiction's determination is all that matters. The only problem is the failure to enforce the law with greater retribution.

Then in many jurisdictions having sex with a 14 year old is not pedophilia. Besides, pedophilia in and of itself is not a crime. Child molestation is.
 

Zzarchov

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It can be treated but not cured, one form of treatment is amputation just above the shoulder.


This strikes me as wasteful, and while understandable as an emotional gut reaction, only will lead to more children being harmed.

First off I think we can agree there is something wrong in a paedophiles brain and physiology. This isn't like getting drunk and hitting someone with a car where you are stupid and careless, a paedophile is physically different.

They can get physically aroused by children, thats not normal and not even physically possible for adults who are normal.

Therfore, something is physically wired wrong. To say they cannot be cured is also bunk, they cannot be cured now. I don't know of any other ailment where we go "Hey, there is no cure here..lets never look for one".
 

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This strikes me as wasteful, and while understandable as an emotional gut reaction, only will lead to more children being harmed.

First off I think we can agree there is something wrong in a paedophiles brain and physiology. This isn't like getting drunk and hitting someone with a car where you are stupid and careless, a paedophile is physically different.

They can get physically aroused by children, thats not normal and not even physically possible for adults who are normal.

Therfore, something is physically wired wrong. To say they cannot be cured is also bunk, they cannot be cured now. I don't know of any other ailment where we go "Hey, there is no cure here..lets never look for one".

Intellectually speaking of course you are right and for those afflicted, it's obviously a terrible thing, BUT the well being of children trumps the well being of the pedophile in my books. Of course society would be so much better off If/when they can be cured.
 

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Im not saying let them roam free. Im saying we need to do research into fixing this, heavy reasearch. Then we can cure people before children are harmed rather than punishing them after the fact and still having children who are now scarred for life.
 

karrie

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Im not saying let them roam free. Im saying we need to do research into fixing this, heavy reasearch. Then we can cure people before children are harmed rather than punishing them after the fact and still having children who are now scarred for life.

While I agree with you, I can't even imagine how far off a 'cure' might be. Because, well, before you can cure something, you have to figure out what it is, and if it's an illness in the first place. yeah, I know that sounds odd, but, pedophilia may likely be something that had some adaptive evolutionary value in the past, and thus is a natural human manifestation, even though it is socially shunned (much like many other manifestations of humanity).

If it's a natural manifestation of the variety of human sexuality you tread into pretty murky waters in trying to 'cure' it.

And if it's not a natural manifestation, then you're looking into the realm of fetishes. And fetishes have been found to be virtually impossible to 'cure', even the ones that can be talked about and tackled openly.
 

Zzarchov

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Again though, we are dealing with using psychology in this case to cure something, and sorry, but psychology is for the most part critically limited. Its like trying to figure out how to work the inner cores of a computer, by using it. You can only change things that you have options to change, if you figure out how something works from the ground up you can fix defective parts. No amount of windows users manual can fix a blown capacitor.

There is a physical difference between people with different sex drives, even normal ones. And if you went in and measured it, you'd be able to change it.

Im aware this may require actually cracking open someones skull and performing microsurgery, or gene therapy to change their hormone production. Im well aware this is a decidely slippery slope.

But human knoweldge isn't going to stop, we are going to get there sooner or later, why not sooner to protect more children?
 

karrie

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Im aware this may require actually cracking open someones skull and performing microsurgery, or gene therapy to change their hormone production. Im well aware this is a decidely slippery slope.

Where have I heard recently, that a society can be measured by how it treats the lowest of its members? It seems to me that things like this would necessitate going beyond slippery slope, to downright experimenting on prisoners and those we've deemed unfit members of society.
 

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Where have I heard recently, that a society can be measured by how it treats the lowest of its members? It seems to me that things like this would necessitate going beyond slippery slope, to downright experimenting on prisoners and those we've deemed unfit members of society.

I think both you and Zarzchov make valid points. I agree that vigilantism is probably not the best solution, but until we can cure them they have to be kept in a secure location that the public can have faith that their child is safe, and so far the system seems incapable of doing that. Maybe it's time the prison system was turned over to the private sector. I know I could build a bunker from which they couldn't escape.
 

karrie

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I think both you and Zarzchov make valid points. I agree that vigilantism is probably not the best solution, but until we can cure them they have to be kept in a secure location that the public can have faith that their child is safe, and so far the system seems incapable of doing that. Maybe it's time the prison system was turned over to the private sector. I know I could build a bunker from which they couldn't escape.

The only problem with that is... you can NEVER have faith that your child is safe. Pedophiles always have a first. While I'd like to see stiffer sentences, the idea that warehousing them for life will create a safer environment for children seems flawed to me.