Another Female Pedophile Caught. In the Act Even.

Niflmir

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Its not too long ago that 14 was age of consent in Canada. I wonder if the boy is actually traumatized.

Also, I hit puberty in grade 5. Most of the boys I went to school with did as well.
 

Cliffy

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I highly doubt it. Being concerned about the potential dangers young people face while attending publically funded institutions such as schools, can not be simplified by your explanation of emotional immaturity. I'm sure if you looked it up, you might notice that what you are doing seems more like justifying bad behavior with psychobabble.

Of course psychology as a science is debatable. I think we have barely scratched the surface of the human psyche. But, none-the-less, the emotional immaturity of most people in our culture can be proven and how this relates to adults who are turned on by children can be related to that immaturity. Calling that assumption psycho babble doesn't help bring us any closer to understanding the phenomenon.

That it has been going on since the beginning of time is more than likely. I think that the only reason it has become less prevalent today has more to do with fear of reprisal than any moral conviction or state of enlightenment.
 

karrie

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What is your point?

my point is that unless you know the kid specifically, know when he hit puberty, know when the affair started, saying she is or isn't a pedophile is kind of ridiculous.

She may be. She may not be.
 

Twila

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I think back to my gr 9 science teacher and I know if he'd show even the littlest interest I'd have been more then willing to dance naked with him...he was gorgeous!

I think back to my gr 9 math teacher and I think if he'd acted anyway other then professionally and I'd have hated class. If he'd flirted with me I'd have gagged.
 

karrie

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I had one science teacher, grade 9, 10, and 11 biology, who I could just watch for hours. He had the nicest ass. He was probably in his early 40's... maybe late 30's, but he had gray in his moustache. I was gaga over him. So yummy. I had a boyfriend, but he was still delicious to look at, and I always liked when he'd keep me after class to chat.

To think that people would have viewed me as a victim if he'd taken advantage of my lust.... it's almost laughable.
 

Twila

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To think that people would have viewed me as a victim if he'd taken advantage of my lust.... it's almost laughable

Funny how at that age you could drive a 2000lb vehicle at speeds fast enough to kill...but not old enough to decide whether you want to have a may-dec fling with a hot teacher, eh?
 

karrie

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Funny how at that age you could drive a 2000lb vehicle at speeds fast enough to kill...but not old enough to decide whether you want to have a may-dec fling with a hot teacher, eh?

well, I understand... I wouldn't want the rules to be any different (come on, I have kids heading into school!), but, the fact that a boy would get patted on the back for the same thing, while I'd be looked at as an innocent little victim... that's what throws me.
 

CanadianLove

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The term pedophile is over used. Having sex with a 14 year old does not make one a pedophile. The article does not say how old the boy was when the relationship started.

"The woman teaches elementary school in Whitby but lives in Bowmanville. CTV Toronto has learned the woman was the boy's teacher years ago -- and that the pair were involved in a secret sexual relationship at that time. "

I can assume from this that it started at least age <12.

I wonder if, if they could have gotten married, would they have? Could this have been a role reversal of the child brides of India.
 

Said1

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Of course psychology as a science is debatable. I think we have barely scratched the surface of the human psyche. But, none-the-less, the emotional immaturity of most people in our culture can be proven and how this relates to adults who are turned on by children can be related to that immaturity. Calling that assumption psycho babble doesn't help bring us any closer to understanding the phenomenon.

You're assumption and it's connection to sexual abuse and pedophilia is overly simplistic. There really is no need to take a phenomenological approach to this topic, when there is data and research that is quite extensive and conclusive on the topic - pedophillia.

That it has been going on since the beginning of time is more than likely. I think that the only reason it has become less prevalent today has more to do with fear of reprisal than any moral conviction or state of enlightenment.
To a certain extent, this maybe the case.Some people are better able to control their impulses, while some aren't interested in virtual children. Out of curiosity (I mean no offense to this) as a man in your 50's, is perusing a relationship with a virtual child acceptable, because she has a crush on you? Would you justify your lack of forsight and control by blamming the girl for 'wanting' you? Young girls have crushes on men all the time, that's normal, but in the end society decides what is acceptable by their reactions to certain phenomena.
 

Said1

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Of course psychology as a science is debatable. I think we have barely scratched the surface of the human psyche. But, none-the-less, the emotional immaturity of most people in our culture can be proven and how this relates to adults who are turned on by children can be related to that immaturity. Calling that assumption psycho babble doesn't help bring us any closer to understanding the phenomenon.

You're assumption and it's connection to sexual abuse and pedophilia is overly simplistic. There really is no need to take a phenomenological approach to this topic, when there is data and research that is quite extensive and conclusive on this topic - pedophilia.

That it has been going on since the beginning of time is more than likely. I think that the only reason it has become less prevalent today has more to do with fear of reprisal than any moral conviction or state of enlightenment.
To a certain extent, this maybe the case. However, some (lots) people are better able to control their impulses and have a better sense of right and wrong, while some aren't interested in virtual children. Out of curiosity (I mean no offense to this) as a man in your 50's, is perusing a relationship with a virtual child acceptable, because she has a crush on you? Would you justify your lack of foresight and control by blaming the girl for 'wanting' you? Young girls have crushes on men all the time, that's normal, but in the end society decides what is acceptable by their reactions to certain phenomena.

People used to die in their 30's too. We not longer live in such primitive societies and environments.
 

Cannuck

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my point is that unless you know the kid specifically, know when he hit puberty, know when the affair started, saying she is or isn't a pedophile is kind of ridiculous.

She may be. She may not be.

That was the kinda the point of my initial post. Throwing around the pedophile label without background accomplishes little.
 

Scott Free

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From a legal perspective yes. Not from a psychological perspective.

So you support paedophilia because you think it's psychologically acceptable but most people aren't attracted to children Cannuck - even if they are going through puberty, so you can't make that generalization, even if it is true for you. Some people are attracted to young girls and some people are paedophiles - they are the same people: there is no rationalizing it.
 
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Scott Free

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WOW!

That IS shocking.....but I have to ask: define child, please.


It was self-reported sexual interest in children, so whatever the people answering defined a child as was the definition.

It's extremely scary IMO...
 

JLM

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"Some people are attracted to young girls and some people are paedophiles - they are the same people."- NEGATIVE- pedophiles are attracted to children in the physical sense, I'm not disputing that someone attracted to a physically developed 12 year old girl isn't a slimy bastard, who possibly deserves as harsh punishment as the pedophile but he is NOT a pedophile.
 

Tyr

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Pedophilia is reprehensible. What is a responisble and moral punishment for the crime?

Alot would say death or life in prison, but without knowing the "why", we just leave our society open for more pedophiles who end up being more cautious.

Finding out the "why" and somehow treating it may be the only way to decrease the incidence.
 

JLM

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Pedophilia is reprehensible. What is a responisble and moral punishment for the crime?

Alot would say death or life in prison, but without knowing the "why", we just leave our society open for more pedophiles who end up being more cautious.

Finding out the "why" and somehow treating it may be the only way to decrease the incidence.

It can be treated but not cured, one form of treatment is amputation just above the shoulder.