So that's what Mosses meant by thou shalt not kill? lol
I missed the part about snivelling excuses and legal defences lmao :lol:
Maybe you should get out of the deep end?
Who can really argue with the basic philosophy if you are not Christian, of Jesus –
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So that's what Mosses meant by thou shalt not kill? lol
I missed the part about snivelling excuses and legal defences lmao :lol:
Maybe you should get out of the deep end?
Philosophy is a rational art thereby logical.
If you can't be logical (as is evident by your posts) then instead of railing against those that can (very embarrassing for you) perhaps you should become a religionists and just bleat your nonsense because you have confused philosophy with theology and that is what such people do - it is their idiom, if you like. If you don't want to be certain of your beliefs; if the irrational holds more sway for you (as surely it does) then choose a god and believe away.
Don't be surprised if I occasionally call you a fool though.
Sure, but that isn't the argument. Cannuck is saying that there is no room for logic in a philosophy discussion. He claims that is the domain of science not philosophy.
Did Moses tell you that? I spoke with him yesterday and he said that he clearly said murder. He said he even said it in English, French, Chinese, Russian so there would be no confusion. Youda thought somebody that close to God would have known better.
Then, as I've said, you are no different than eanassir and that is why I am different than the both of you. I would never call either of you a fool just because of your beliefs.
You know, you would have a tad bit more credibility if you actually showed logical thought processes instead of simply claiming you had them.
Nope. I don't even know what he said so how am I to know what he meant. I was merely offering alternate views. It's what I do.
Try and keep up.
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Scott free
Quoting Cliffy
So I was absolutely correct and you were trying to use a logic fallacy to trip me up.
Scott Free,
That is his MO. Though I find his posts simple and concise, they come from a head space foriegn to many and are always antagonistic.
I agree. He already made clear to Dexter that he isn't interested in being logical or finding the truth of things. It seems he is a troll or a misguided person with a contrary and bitter nature.
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Quoting Scott Free
I agree. He already made clear to Dexter that he isn't interested in being logical or finding the truth of things. It seems he is a troll or a misguided person with a contrary and bitter nature.
Scott Free
Rather quick to condemn someone – I have read Cliffys posts on the “other forum” and he is not a Troll.
If I misread or misunderstood your post I offer my apology – I understood you were referring to Cliffy.
Scott free
Quoting Cliffy
So I was absolutely correct and you were trying to use a logic fallacy to trip me up.
Scott Free,
That is his MO. Though I find his posts simple and concise, they come from a head space foriegn to many and are always antagonistic.
I agree. He already made clear to Dexter that he isn't interested in being logical or finding the truth of things. It seems he is a troll or a misguided person with a contrary and bitter nature.
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Quoting Scott Free
I agree. He already made clear to Dexter that he isn't interested in being logical or finding the truth of things. It seems he is a troll or a misguided person with a contrary and bitter nature.
Scott Free
Rather quick to condemn someone – I have read Cliffys posts on the “other forum” and he is not a Troll.
If I misread or misunderstood your post I offer my apology – I understood you were referring to Cliffy.
Scott Free
Quoting Goober
Murder -the crime of killing another person deliberately and not in self-defense or with any other extenuating circumstance recognized by law
So that's what Mosses meant by thou shalt not kill? lol
I missed the part about snivelling excuses and legal defences lmao
Maybe you should get out of the deep end?
No that is what God meant – Moses was the secretary taking notes – Now recall what Jesus said about rendering onto Caesar – Problem with the deep end is people take the simple and twist it to suit their particular philosophy of belief – It is everywhere you look – work – society – law – govt -
Render unto Caesar…" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels which reads in full, “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (“Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ”) (Matthew 22:21).
This phrase has become a widely quoted summary of the relationship between Christianity and secular authority. The original message, coming in response to a question of whether it was lawful for Jews to pay taxes to Caesar, gives rise to multiple possible interpretations about whether it is desirable for the Christian to submit to earthly authority. Interpretations include the belief that it is good and appropriate to submit to the state when asked, that spiritual demands supersede earthly demands but do not abolish them, or that the demands of the state are non-negotiable.
Quoting Goober
Murder -the crime of killing another person deliberately and not in self-defense or with any other extenuating circumstance recognized by law
So that's what Mosses meant by thou shalt not kill? lol
I missed the part about snivelling excuses and legal defences lmao
Maybe you should get out of the deep end?
No that is what God meant – Moses was the secretary taking notes – Now recall what Jesus said about rendering onto Caesar – Problem with the deep end is people take the simple and twist it to suit their particular philosophy of belief – It is everywhere you look – work – society – law – govt -
Render unto Caesar…" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels which reads in full, “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (“Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ”) (Matthew 22:21).
This phrase has become a widely quoted summary of the relationship between Christianity and secular authority. The original message, coming in response to a question of whether it was lawful for Jews to pay taxes to Caesar, gives rise to multiple possible interpretations about whether it is desirable for the Christian to submit to earthly authority. Interpretations include the belief that it is good and appropriate to submit to the state when asked, that spiritual demands supersede earthly demands but do not abolish them, or that the demands of the state are non-negotiable.
If God took all the aholes from the world in a Rapture type event would you still be here.
Goober,
Aliens are coming to get me! I have a front row seat to Armageddon. I think it will be amusing to see all the religious looking around wondering why they are still here.
Goober,
Aliens are coming to get me! I have a front row seat to Armageddon. I think it will be amusing to see all the religious looking around wondering why they are still here.
Cliffy
Well that may be true – But I use this as a good check and balance on myself and of course with humor at times.
Ask yourself this question when having doubts about a decision you made or actions you took
If God took all the Aholes out in a rapture type event, would you still be here?
Author – Goober
Mosses was a tyrannical egoist that wanted to claim power by virtue of his proximity to god and made the 10 commandments up. Any entity that was cleaver enough to build the universe could certainly come up with a better set of laws and principles. If nothing else something "good" would have included rights of children and women. Instead Mosses goes on to talk about proper methods of selling them! Let's not forget too that upon bringing the commandment to not kill he immediately killed a few thousand people - that isn't the actions of someone who just received a commandment from god. He was pissed that no one was following his dictates and his actions were more like an enraged Saddam than someone who just conversed with the supposed creator of the universe. So I do not think Mosses was any kind of recording secretary but a crazed madman drunk with power.
Scott Free
And you opinion on the teaching of Jesus would be.
Ask yourself this question when having doubts about a decision you made or actions you took
If God took all the Aholes out in a rapture type event, would you still be here?
Author – Goober
And you opinion on the teaching of Jesus would be.
Ask yourself this question when having doubts about a decision you made or actions you took
If God took all the Aholes out in a rapture type event, would you still be here?
Author – Goober
You talk about Moses like the stories are documented historical fact. Kind of odd for somebody that doesn't believe them. It would seem you believe more of the bible than I do.
Since you don't believe in being rational and logical I am left assuming this is a line of gibberish, so I won't bother answering except to say: wrong assumption.
I won't even explain why your assumption is wrong since, to someone who espouses the merits of irrationality, explanations are pointless.
So try again and if your blathering comes anywhere near my actual reasons for posting as I did I'll let you know.
It's kind of a fun experiment. This might even go some way in answering the question: could a million monkeys pecking randomly at keyboards eventually, given an endless amount of time, produce the bible?
We don't have that much time but then your task is so much simpler.
About the same.
Let me be clear, however, that I think Jesus was a work of fiction, an amalgamation of many teachings by other so called prophets and gods.
Now since I'm not a Christian I am not inclined to to think Constantine was guided by god in assembling the bible nor do I think that of the committee he apointed for that task was either. So I can include a great many lost books in my assesement. I don't just have to look at the best hand picked examples. When I do that I get a very different picture of Jesus. For example he murdered three times in his youth which is very much in keeping with what I would expect from a follower of Mosses and someone who claims he is gods son.
"Then said Joseph to St. Mary, henceforth we will not allow him to go out of the house; for everyone who displeases him is killed."
It doesn't suprise me that Christians would claim that isn't a real story but the book has all the credibility of any other. Just because a Roman emperor decided not to include it in the cannon isn't any reason to suspect its validity anymore than any other book.
So one must take the good with the bad in assesing these things IMO.
If you're interested: Lost Books.