Mike Duffy Offends Williams

Cannuck

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Cannuck: So what if Newfoundland's GDP was second only to Alberta in 1996? Are we moving too fast for you? Is it important to you that Alberta remain at the top of the heap?

No matter how hard you try to make this about Alberta, it never will be.

Look, however this appears on the world stage is irrelevant to the province. Williams and his predecessors have fought long and hard to get Newfoundland into the position it finds itself today. Finally we are reaching a level of financial freedom after 60 years of taking it on the chin. Acting greedy huh? I put it to you that we are just asking for fairness under the Canadian umbrella.

No. You are asking for a government handout you don't need when others in Canada could use it more. That is being greedy.

Truth be told, the rest of Canada is quaking in their boots because if Newfoundland and the whole of eastern Canada were to become self-sufficient it would upset the neat little arrangement we have operating in this country today where atlantic Canada is used as a farm for resources.

Nonsense. Canadians are tired of carrying the east. Little would make Canadians happier than to have a economically viable, sustainable and prosperous east coast. Hell just about my whole extended family live in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.
 

Cannuck

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Coming from you that is rather amusing.

You come to a thread about Mike Duffy and his comments about Newfoundland, make three posts and say absolutely nothing about Duffy or Newfoundland. Is it any wonder I don't care if you and your buds don't care if the east becomes economically viable.
 

Diarygirl

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#3: The people. Years of bad deals, corrupt governments and general disinterest from mainland Canada has led the people of the province to become distrustful and guarded. They (we) realized this deal with Canada is not working out like the storybook said. Hard times back home meant you had to board the next plane for the mainland and find your way elsewhere. Most went to Fort McMurray but you'll find us wandering around this country and the world no matter where you go. We wander the world, work, pay taxes, contribute to the local community, all the while keeping our ear to the ground waiting for the chance to return to our beloved island. A lot of us are approaching retirement age now and that dream slowly fades as you raise your family in a far off place, they grow up and leave home and you wonder if moving across the country to retire is going to be a good thing. The sense of place and the ties that bind families together are broken. Then along comes Danny Williams and brings with him hope for a better future. Williams offered a strong business sense combined with a sharp tongue and knack for getting under the skin of the federal government, traits the people of Newfoundland and Labrador respect. Some call it whining but we prefer to call it fighting for your rights. Which leads me to.....
I'm from Newfoundland and have been in and out of the province for almost 20 years....my heart is there and I always yearned to be "home"....I applaud you for your voice in showing the truth of how we, as Newfoundlanders, feel about our province...I would still be there if there was enough work to allow me. Financial matters have taken me from my home and the bind had to be broken from my family so that we (my children and I) could live respectfully and not on the hand outs of "welfare" which makes a person feel belittled. You're right, should a day come that I can return to live decently, I'll be on the next flight!!
Danny Williams has our best interests at heart! Many don't like his sharp tongue but he's respected by "us" because finally we have someone who wants to fight for our rights...we've been shafted for many years and tired of getting it (the shaft)...it's all about mistrust and wanting what's right and fair for "us"!!

I realize this has nothing to do with Duffy....but the thread led us here!!
I usually stay away from politics but had to make my opinion known for my true home!
 

mt_pockets1000

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I'm from Newfoundland and have been in and out of the province for almost 20 years....my heart is there and I always yearned to be "home"....I applaud you for your voice in showing the truth of how we, as Newfoundlanders, feel about our province...I would still be there if there was enough work to allow me. Financial matters have taken me from my home and the bind had to be broken from my family so that we (my children and I) could live respectfully and not on the hand outs of "welfare" which makes a person feel belittled. You're right, should a day come that I can return to live decently, I'll be on the next flight!!
Danny Williams has our best interests at heart! Many don't like his sharp tongue but he's respected by "us" because finally we have someone who wants to fight for our rights...we've been shafted for many years and tired of getting it (the shaft)...it's all about mistrust and wanting what's right and fair for "us"!!

I realize this has nothing to do with Duffy....but the thread led us here!!
I usually stay away from politics but had to make my opinion known for my true home!
Thank you Dairygirl. I was beginning to think I was the lone voice in the wilderness here. I appreciate the support shown by Prax, Lonewolf. Tyr and others. It gives me hope when people outside the province stand by our side in solidarity. But when people like yourself from the province who understand the issues stand up for what's right it makes my heart swell with pride. Like you I've been back and forth across this country working in factories and offices, trying to keep a family together, not wanting to go back home knowing the work was just not there. But I did go back 3 times over the years. Brought my family back, wanted to have my kids grow up around their grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. But as you know it's a real struggle back home. Each time I went back I drove myself and my family farther into debt. Call me silly but even though times were tough I had too much pride to take the welfare check. But I did have to resort to food banks on several occasions. The last time I left was 1997 and as I was leaving Port aux Basques on the ferry I stood on the deck looking back at the island as it slipped away in the distance and vowed I would never return again. That was 12 years ago. Now the kids are grown and doing their own thing. Lately I've been thinking it would be much easier now that it's just me and my wife. Perhaps now we can go back. I dunno. Do I want to leave my kids out here in Alberta? I still feel a sense of responsibility to them even though they're more than capable of taking care of themselves. Just the parent in me I guess.

Don't worry about diving into political debates. Politicians and their cohorts are just like you and me, except most of them have hearts made of stone. I believe there's a lab somewhere in Ontario near MacMaster University where political science students go to have their concience removed. It's our duty and right as democratic citizens of this country to expose them when we find they are up to no good.
 

mt_pockets1000

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No matter how hard you try to make this about Alberta, it never will be.
The latest budget equalization payments:
Alberta $4.8 billion
Newfoundland and Labrador 0

This is more about Alberta than you think.


No. You are asking for a government handout you don't need when others in Canada could use it more. That is being greedy.
Tell me again how Alberta needs $4.8 billion.


Nonsense. Canadians are tired of carrying the east. Little would make Canadians happier than to have a economically viable, sustainable and prosperous east coast. Hell just about my whole extended family live in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.
If the rest of Canada wants Newfoundland to be economically viable why is it every time we get on our feet you cut the legs out from under us again? I'm calling BS on this one.
 

Diarygirl

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You hit the nail on the head, mt_pockets....my heart swells with pride too, coming from a province where we can hold our head high knowing that we are certainly hard working conscientious people and proud of our small part of the world. It's something not many people can be priviledged to feel if they haven't lived there. Some mock us, call us uneducated, greedy, etc., but we can take it. We only want what's right for our little part of the world. We can't undo the past but we sure can do something for the future. That's what Danny Williams is trying to do for "us".
My adult children are living there now for the past 4 years, along with my grandchildren, and they don't want to leave. I miss them terribly and while I'm away, I will work myself to the bone to help and provide for them. There's something magical about Newfoundland that keeps many staying and stuggling. I felt that magic and it keeps calling me back. Someday, I will return to the "calming part" of Canada and retire. Hopefully not too much longer or too late. We don't know what tomorrow brings us in life...as long as I'm healthy and living. I'm just a simple person who can live with little and it certainly will be worth it if I can get myself back "home".
 

Cannuck

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Danny Williams has our best interests at heart!

I don't doubt that. The question is what is in the best interests of Newfoundland. Being greedy and taking more than your fair share? I don't think so.

...we've been shafted for many years and tired of getting it (the shaft)...it's all about mistrust and wanting what's right and fair for "us"!!

Maybe that is the biggest problem in Newfoundland. People should stop looking backwards and start looking forward.

I usually stay away from politics but had to make my opinion known for my true home!

Do you sing the national anthem?
 

Cannuck

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If the rest of Canada wants Newfoundland to be economically viable why is it every time we get on our feet you cut the legs out from under us again? I'm calling BS on this one.

I'll call BS on your BS. Albertans in particular like to help others with a hand up. It is why we usually lead the country in volunteerism. I can count the number of people that I know that are against transfer payment on the fingers of one hand.
 

missile

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Newfy will never be an economic powerhouse..just the usual largest welfare state, and all the whining and crying won't change anything.Duffy said much worse back when he was a political commentator & I hoped to hear no more from him when he was appointed Senator.
 

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"In the 2008 election campaign, whatever pretense they had of being balanced was out the window. It was as bad as anything I've ever seen on U.S. networks in terms of being the way Fox News was the mouthpiece for George Bush."
-Elizabeth May on Mike (the dufus) Duffy's lack of journalistic balance
 

missile

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Have always thought CTV shouild have a disclaimer preceding political commentators, " The views of this person do not reflect the Network", then they could claim fairness in broadcasting. But then, I generally only watch Global[for the shows, not the news]
 

Diarygirl

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I don't doubt that. The question is what is in the best interests of Newfoundland. Being greedy and taking more than your fair share? I don't think so.
Do you really think we're being greedy?? How would you feel if it was your province? It's called wanting what we deserve.


Maybe that is the biggest problem in Newfoundland. People should stop looking backwards and start looking forward.
That's exactly what we're trying to do!!


Do you sing the national anthem?
I am a Canadian citizen and of course I have pride in our country, but my pride and loyalty is for my province first!!
 

mt_pockets1000

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I'll call BS on your BS. Albertans in particular like to help others with a hand up. It is why we usually lead the country in volunteerism. I can count the number of people that I know that are against transfer payment on the fingers of one hand.
Owww...my head hurts this morning from too much Captain Morgan. I'm really not up for your juvenile natterings today. But I'll try my best. First off I have dibs on the BS jab. You can't call BS on a BS. It must violate some CC standard. I'll check with the authorities.
But I will call your volunteerism and raise you charity donations. Newfoundland gives more to charity per capita than any other province. But we don't gloat over that like you do with your volunterism label. Look no further than 9/11 to see how it works in Newfoundland as 10's of thousands of American citizens were taken into the homes of local people around the island. Meanwhile, as some of the planes landed in Toronto and Vancouver, hotels prices shot up to take advantage of someone elses misfortune. Sweet. Never lose an opportunity to make a buck, eh?
 

Diarygirl

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Newfy will never be an economic powerhouse..just the usual largest welfare state, and all the whining and crying won't change anything.Duffy said much worse back when he was a political commentator & I hoped to hear no more from him when he was appointed Senator.
With all the resources in Newfoundland we could be an economic powerhouse..and the lowest welfare province in Canada. It's about time someone like Danny Williams fought for us!
 

mt_pockets1000

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Newfy will never be an economic powerhouse..just the usual largest welfare state, and all the whining and crying won't change anything.Duffy said much worse back when he was a political commentator & I hoped to hear no more from him when he was appointed Senator.
Who wants to be an economic powerhouse? We'll leave that to provinces like Alberta. We just want to be a contributing province to the country of Canada in a meaningful way. Not by supplying Canada with our natural resources but by using these resources to keep our province on an even keel with the rest of the country so the transfer payments can stop.
 

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"In the 2008 election campaign, whatever pretense they had of being balanced was out the window. It was as bad as anything I've ever seen on U.S. networks in terms of being the way Fox News was the mouthpiece for George Bush."
-Elizabeth May on Mike (the dufus) Duffy's lack of journalistic balance
I always have a soft spot in my heart for the lovely Miss May. God bless her for calling out Duffy on his journalistic bias.

Senator Duffy is having his feet held to the fire over this one. People in eastern Canada are livid over his comments. Now Senator Duffy wants it all to go away. Not so fast there Duff. You made a comment now it's time for a rebuttal. And the people are speaking loud and clear.

Duffy tells media to ‘give it a rest