More the Marry in Bountiful, BC

[earth_as_one]

What consenting adults do in the privacy of the home is no business of mine, but by trying to legitimize an action publicly and/or legally makes it our business. Are these people not also trying to impose their version of morality on society?...

No they aren't. People like you are trying to impose your version of morality on them and I have a problem with that. If these people try to impose their morality on you and force you into a plural marriage arrangement against your will, then I'd have a problem with that too. But as far as I know they aren't imposing anything. They just want to live their lives in a way they believe leads to happiness.

At one time intolerant people like yoursel were trying to break up mixed race and same sex relationships. As our society becomes more tolerant of our differences, its inevitable that plural marriages will become legal.

 

[jjaycee98]

Strange

Section 293 of the Criminal Code of Canada

Polygamy

293. (1) Every one who

(a) practises or enters into or in any manner agrees or consents to practise or enter into

(i) any form of polygamy, or

(ii) any kind of conjugal union with more than one person at the same time,

whether or not it is by law recognized as a binding form of marriage, or

(b) celebrates, assists or is a party to a rite, ceremony, contract or consent that purports to sanction a relationship mentioned in subparagraph (a)(i) or (ii),

is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

Evidence in case of polygamy

(2) Where an accused is charged with an offence under this section, no averment or proof of the method by which the alleged relationship was entered into, agreed to or consented to is necessary in the indictment or on the trial of the accused, nor is it necessary on the trial to prove that the persons who are alleged to have entered into the relationship had or intended to have sexual intercourse.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 257.

I know of a case of the Live In Woman being given half the CPP Death Benefit and half the Survivor's Benefit when a fellow died. The Marriage was still intact and had endured 42 years. The fellow moved out in year 35 but there was never a legal separation let alone a Divorce. That really has the looks of the Government of Canada condonning Bigamy. Why not Polygamy also?

 

[Scott Free]

Why any person in their right mind would want more than one wife is beyond me, but as long as they aren't hurting anyone...why not?

I could see wanting an even number that way they could fight with each other.

 

[WeeLeprechaun]

Actually Karrie you assume to much and you must know what that can do. First of all I am not a man. Second of all you assume I agree with men or women marrying minors, again you assume too much, therefore I am right in saying you are far too immature to be giving out opinions, and fools to take them from you. No where did I say that I agree with minors being allowed to marry anyone. And I also asked you if you know any of these people personally, and you did not answer, because maybe you again are assuming.Also not all seven day adventist have multiple marriages. If your only comeback or back up is to have someone banned because they called you on something then you do need to grow up, this is not your world to hold court. I think you are letting your own bad experiences with men rule any common sense you might have. If you cannot take criticism then don't put yourself out there. Like on a public forum. We do have a right to our opinion even if it does not fit into your made up world. Take your lumps it is part of growing up, and part of lifes experience, which you need some.
I have just noticed a pattern with you, you seem to think that all men are evil, unless they are kissing up to you.

 

[WeeLeprechaun]

Further more Karrie as a person who has 7 day adventist in her family I take offense to your discriminative remark regarding all of them. Second I have lived in the town of Creston BC which in case you do not know it is the town next to Bountiful, and have been in these peoples homes, and they are a happy contented people who do not fill their lives with crap. They also are in their marriages by their own choice.

 

[shadowshiv]

Further more Karrie as a person who has 7 day adventist in her family I take offense to your discriminative remark regarding all of them. Second I have lived in the town of Creston BC which in case you do not know it is the town next to Bountiful, and have been in these peoples homes, and they are a happy contented people who do not fill their lives with crap. They also are in their marriages by their own choice.

And calling homosexuals 'perverts' is any different how?

 

[WeeLeprechaun]

It is the truth. Do you think buggery is normal????

 

[karrie]

Further more Karrie as a person who has 7 day adventist in her family I take offense to your discriminative remark regarding all of them. Second I have lived in the town of Creston BC which in case you do not know it is the town next to Bountiful, and have been in these peoples homes, and they are a happy contented people who do not fill their lives with crap. They also are in their marriages by their own choice.

off topic. take it somewhere else.

 

[WeeLeprechaun]

You are the one who brought up Bountiful on this thread not me. But no problem. I will take that as you do not have a proper answer to the people of Boutiful or knowledge. So I rest my case, and will leave you to play with those more your speed. I apologize for proving my point.

 

[karrie]

You are the one who brought up Bountiful on this thread not me. But no problem. I will take that as you do not have a proper answer to the people of Boutiful or knowledge. So I rest my case, and will leave you to play with those more your speed. I apologize for proving my point.

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you prove nothing except that you're not worth my time... if you can't argue it in the thread it started in, tough. If you want to try to hack in here about JOKES, have fun, but you're wasting your time. You're boring me. Bring some adult debate to the table in the bountiful thread if you're up to it.

 

[JLM]

lol. You support marrying 14 year old girls off to grown men. Your opinion matter zero to me. Scratch. LOL.

I'm not particularly fussy about 14 year old girls marrying men old enough to be their grandfather, but the whole crux of the problem is that as long as it's legal, there's very little that can be done other than educate the girls at a very early age. That's why I think they have to nail Big Winston on the polygamy issue- THAT is illegal.

 

[karrie]

I'm not particularly fussy about 14 year old girls marrying men old enough to be their grandfather, but the whole crux of the problem is that as long as it's legal, there's very little that can be done other than educate the girls at a very early age. That's why I think they have to nail Big Winston on the polygamy issue- THAT is illegal.

okay... sorry JLM... I was simply illustrating that I don't give a hoot what scratch thinks of my replies to joke posts by members.

Feel free to carry on the discussion in the bountiful thread k?

 

[karrie]

JLM... you brought up that you want Winston charged with polygamy to make up for not being able to charge him for marrying teenage girls... it made me curious.

Why is it preferable to nail him on something else, rather than make marrying fourteen year old girls illegal?

 

[Zzarchov]

It is the truth. Do you think buggery is normal????

Considering the number of animals that engage in it, yes.

Why is it you consider it abnormal?

 

[JLM]

JLM... you brought up that you want Winston charged with polygamy to make up for not being able to charge him for marrying teenage girls... it made me curious.

Why is it preferable to nail him on something else, rather than make marrying fourteen year old girls illegal?

That's simple- there maybe circumstances where it's Okay for a fourteen year old girl to marry - the laws of the land have to serve all races, creeds and cultures, but suppose the age was raised to 15 or 16, would people be any happier with the likes of Winston marrying a 15 or 16 year old? I doubt it. We want the guy in jail so I don't care whether it's for child molestation, polygamy or selling rancid goat's milk, the reason is immaterial as long as he's put away.

 

[karrie]

That's simple- there maybe circumstances where it's Okay for a fourteen year old girl to marry - the laws of the land have to serve all races, creeds and cultures, but suppose the age was raised to 15 or 16, would people be any happier with the likes of Winston marrying a 15 or 16 year old? I doubt it. We want the guy in jail so I don't care whether it's for child molestation, polygamy or selling rancid goat's milk, the reason is immaterial as long as he's put away.

I just find it repugnant that those people who are consenting adults get labeled criminals by the few who choose to wed children. That we can't charge him on the real source of anger, and have to resort to technicalities (technicalities he'll never do time for btw... get used to that idea), irks me beyond belief.

 

[lone wolf]

Does marrying the 14 year old mean the marriage is actually consumated? Underage marriage with parental consent is legal....

 

[karrie]

Does marrying the 14 year old mean the marriage is actually consumated? Underage marriage with parental consent is legal....

It's not a marriage unless it's consummated.

 

[lone wolf]

It's not a marriage unless it's consummated.

...in the eyes of our Law

 

[Zzarchov]

Quite frankly I find it disgusting that so many people in this thread would prefer to see a man marry an molest a 14 year old girl as long as its a monogamous child marriage (as are common).

But if a woman wants to marry two men, who are both happy to be married to her in that manner, that should be a crime.

Hiding behind "but its the law" is crap too. Laws can be changed, including by the courts.

That is why we have gay marriage, and why homosexuals are no longer criminalized.

I am real sick and tired of religious wing nuts dictating our laws. I do personally know some ladies who exist quite happily in a polygamous relationship with each other, they are atheists, not brainwashed cult children as so many seem intent to stereotype them as and I don't see what business the religious nutballs in this country have telling them they can have a christian marriage or go to hell.


Its disgusting that people decide to charge him with polygamy because they think its somehow Ok for him to molest little girls as long as he does it one at a time. If there is some legal loophole preventing you from charging him with molesting children, close that loophole and lock him up.