Cliffy ever read the secret covenant?
MHz,
I believe I haven't. My mind is realing with possibilities though.
MHz,
I believe I haven't. My mind is realing with possibilities though.
Do you believe in EVIL?
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Type it in any search engine, it is about different ways to keep mankind 'distracted' so they cannot see certain things that are going on.
MHz,
I have been aware of that for a long time. That is why I don't have a TV, read magazines, newspapers or listen to commercial radio. I filter the news through other people's heads first. After you hear a story from several different people, it starts to get close to the truth.
I have been aware of that for a long time. That is why I don't have a TV, read magazines, newspapers or listen to commercial radio. I filter the news through other people's heads first. After you hear a story from several different people, it starts to get close to the truth.
So did you look it up?
Some might say it applies to Jews, it doesn't, there might be some Jews involved but evil can come from any section of humanity and no one nation can claim exclusivity on evil.
Some might say it applies to Jews, it doesn't, there might be some Jews involved but evil can come from any section of humanity and no one nation can claim exclusivity on evil.
Well of course there were rules, and designated punishments for transgressions. The mistake is in assuming there's some supernatural source of the rules.
No, you're deliberately muddling the argument. If the man exists alone, then he is the sole arbiter of morality. If there are others, he cannot be, it has to be a consensus in the society he's part of.
But really Mhz, the bottom line on this discussion insofar as it involves just the two of us is that we're never going to agree, because I think your basic premise, that there's a supernatural being that has some interest in us, is simply wrong. And you think my basic premise, that there is no such being, is equally wrong. We each think the other is deluded. There's no common ground here.
So one of us is going to right and the other will be sucking up slough-water. It doesn't bother me that our conversation can be somewhat short, they still last long enough for (some) information to pass. I haven't searched for an ignore button yet.....and why would I when I have won every argument LOL just kidding about the everytime
So did you look it up?
MHz,
Yes. Like I said, I was already aware of that. It one of the reasons I went to live in the forest in 1972. I did not want to be a contributing factor in all that madness.
MHz,
Yes. Like I said, I was already aware of that. It one of the reasons I went to live in the forest in 1972. I did not want to be a contributing factor in all that madness.
I know where it is, but not because of you, you're far too interesting and provocative to ignore. Actually I don't have anybody on ignore, I don't need a machine to ignore people on my behalf. Besides, even the biggest moron on the boards might still say something interesting some time, I don't want to miss it. Double besides, if you surf the boards without logging on, as I often do, the ignore function doesn't work anyway, you just can't see the posts in the members-only threads.
Good thing you added that last clause. You haven't won any of our exchanges, and neither have I, at least in terms of either of us convincing the other of anything. But really, I think any objective, rational observer would give the nod to me... :smile:
"We each think"
"I think any objective"
Both of the above would seem to be evidence of believing in something without verifiable proof. You cannot use the argument that people who believe in the Bible are in error when you do the very same thing, only the topic line changes.
You don't know me well enough to know everything that I believe about the Bible.
"I think any objective"
Both of the above would seem to be evidence of believing in something without verifiable proof. You cannot use the argument that people who believe in the Bible are in error when you do the very same thing, only the topic line changes.
You don't know me well enough to know everything that I believe about the Bible.
I know you well enough to know you believe it's literally true and entirely consistent, you've made that abundantly clear. That belief is easily falsifiable, but your mindset requires you to ignore the evidence or rationalize it away, and it's easy for you to do, at least to your own satisfaction, because you don't understand science or evidential reasoning or how to think critically. If you'd been born in an Islamic culture you'd be Muslim and making the same arguments based on the Quran, like a couple of other posters here do, if you'd been born in India you'd be Hindu and making the same arguments based on the Bhagavad Gita.
It's all mythology. I've no doubt you'd agree with me about the Quran and the Bhagavad Gita, but the difference between us is that I put the Bible in the same category, for the same reasons, which you don't seem able to understand.
I believe I better build a brake for that perpetual motion wheel before I build the wheel and I believe that brake should be overbuilt
And you?
And you?
If you can build a perpetual motion wheel I will immediately concede that you're right and I'm wrong.
That is what I mean, you don't know me, on this board I have said the when it suits God all the Gentiles are going to be put in 1 of 7 Churches, each of those has two types of believers, some that are in good standing and some that are not. That is based on their relationship with God. Every religion is going to be swallowed up. You know Christ is doing it when the dead (the ones in the graves at that time) are granted life before those who are alive are invited to the party. If it happens any other way, run in the other direction. Who is in this group
Re:7:9:
After this I beheld,
and,
lo,
a great multitude,
which no man could number,
of all nations,
and kindreds,
and people,
and tongues,
stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb,
clothed with white robes,
and palms in their hands;
That pretty much covers everybody doesn't it.
About what? Reality would seem to point to right about one thing only.
I think it is in everybody's interest to make sure you have a brake before allowing it to 'start'.
Everyone who was willing to post on the thread, should IMO, be willing to ask themselves these two questions.
How do I know what evil is, UNLESS I know what good is?
And how do I know what good is, UNLESS there is an objective source of such thing?
This thread completely ties in with my recent argument in the Does God Exist? thread. Most of my arguments on this issue will most likely be there.