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lone wolf

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Funny how you prove my point!

But can you see a plane? No...It had to be a missle and a conspiracy.

Apparently you lost because you've resorted to silly unreason again.

Funny thing about airplanes. In flight, they to push air out of the way. Should they bump into the ground at anything other recommended practice, they tend to distort ... but the original mass is still there. It's something like a bullet fired into a Marine's ass: can't see the projectile so is the goldbricker lying about it?
 
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lone wolf

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EagleSmack

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The United plane video has the car directly behind it. That is why I said if cars could fly they would have been tossed. Mind you this thing was flying.
 

EagleSmack

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Apparently you lost because you've resorted to silly unreason again.

Funny thing about airplanes. In flight, they to push air out of the way. Should they bump into the ground at anything other recommended practice, they tend to distort ... but the original mass is still there. It's something like a bullet fired into a Marine's ass: can't see the projectile so is the goldbricker lying about it?

Now now Wolf... you and I have been around long enough to not resort to this type. There are plenty of other folks we can do that to.

It was a plane...there is wreckage...the plane is gone...the people are gone. The people were real, personal effects of some have been found as well as remains.
 

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A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye.

It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.

Is he lying?
 

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“I was going past the Pentagon, really inching a yard or so every couple of minutes. I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine. “I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment.


Was he?
 

EagleSmack

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Would government employees lie? Where is da videos?

Were these government employees?

Where is the video of the supposed Iranian C-130 crash? It must be a missle then. In fact I would go so far as to say that every crash that isn't on video is a missle and the ones that they do catch on video are clearly faked or holograms.
 

EagleSmack

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At what speed does your official story say this plane was flying?

Relevance?

If I get the air speed will it sway you?

What do you think happened to the airliner?
The people?
Are all those wreckage photos staged?
Eyewitness accounts bogus?
 

lone wolf

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The United plane video has the car directly behind it. That is why I said if cars could fly they would have been tossed. Mind you this thing was flying.

Yes ... this thing was flying - which means you would have wingtip vorticies compressing with the ground (ground effect) forcing the fuselege to lift. That, in short, is why it is physically impossible for a high lift wing to maintain straight and level flight at high speed at less than half its wingspan above the ground.

Also, thrust from those engines spreads in a conical shape. If the plane approached on a descending flight path, it it possible. Your official story maintains the final mile of flight was straight and level at an altitude low enough to shear the lights of standards thirty feet high - and only recently did the official story change so that it wasn't an inexperienced pilot on the helm. Fly by wire could not have been over-ridden by a flight school washout so your pilot would have to be expert in his field.
 
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Were these government employees?

Where is the video of the supposed Iranian C-130 crash? It must be a missle then. In fact I would go so far as to say that every crash that isn't on video is a missle and the ones that they do catch on video are clearly faked or holograms.

Smack, if it's so ****ing obvious that a plane hit the pentagon why do you suppose most of the planet can't see it and dosn't believe any of the official report. Why not just do the right thing and surrender to reason and common sence. I'm sorry but there simply was no aircraft Smack and there is nothing really that you can do to change that old sport.
 

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Smack, if it's so ****ing obvious that a plane hit the pentagon why do you suppose most of the planet can't see it and dosn't believe any of the official report. Why not just do the right thing and surrender to reason and common sence. I'm sorry but there simply was no aircraft Smack and there is nothing really that you can do to change that old sport.

Who says?

You still have NEVER been able to answer.

Where did the plane go then?
Where are the people?
Are all the photos of wreckage staged?
Are all the witnesses liars or in on the conspiracy?

Common sense is what you need but you NEED to believe in the conspiracy. It defines who you are Beav...does it not? You are obsessed and there is no amount of evidence that can sway you.
 

EagleSmack

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Yes ... this thing was flying - which means you would have wingtip vorticies compressing with the ground (ground effect) forcing the fuselege to lift. That, in short, is why it is physically impossible for a high lift wing to maintain straight and level flight at high speed at less than half its wingspan above the ground.

Also, thrust from those engines spreads in a conical shape. If the plane approached on a descending flight path, it it possible. Your official story maintains the final mile of flight was straight and level at an altitude low enough to shear the lights of standards thirty feet high - and only recently did the official story change so that it wasn't an inexperienced pilot on the helm. Fly by wire could not have been over-ridden by a flight school washout so your pilot would have to be expert in his field.

I was on an aircraft carrier...you are correct about the conical shape jet blast. However you have to be directly behind it to get hit with the full force.
 

lone wolf

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I was on an aircraft carrier...you are correct about the conical shape jet blast. However you have to be directly behind it to get hit with the full force.

Really, jet blast is irrelevent - unless that aircraft WAS thirty feet above the freeway. No matter, traffic would have been scattered like toybox contents after a temper tantrum had a 40 ton airplane passed over at nearly 400 mph at thirty feet.

The approach IS possible on a decending path as apparently indicated by black boxes. It also accounts for the 180 feet altitude over the streetlights because ground effect (wingtip vortex and compressive wave) would likely act on them.

LiveLeak.com - American 77 Final Maneuver from blackbox data recorder?

EDIT: BTW . Your witnesses saw the plane turn one left one right. At speeds approaching mach, you would not hear the roar of a jet engine until it was almost on top of you. At same speeds, you would not have a few seconds to observe. Had the wing dug into earth, its fuselege would have begun to tumble and not gone straight in.
 
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Figure out the mass of that aircraft because that is the mass of the compressive wave and multiply it by the speed of that aircraft and you will have computed the hit those light standards and any vehicle on that road took ... and it only trimmed tops off poles? No crushed cars? No cars tossed behind by about 70 thousand pounds of thrust from two jet engines running at full tilt?

I'm pretty sure that whole compressive wave thingy has been incontrovertibly refuted. I'm no physicist but it seems to me if one can stand in a hurricane....
 

Just the Facts

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No cars tossed behind by about 70 thousand pounds of thrust from two jet engines running at full tilt?

Ever been to an airshow? Those afterburners are impressive....they get pretty close too, on the straight-up climb. Never heard of anyone being crushed by the wash from an afterburner.