Break up and remove all statues!
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Ah! Interperter... so this isn't the Quran of Allah, but the Quran as interpreted by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
Shame on you for not following the Quran.
I asked you that if reading verses of the Quran automatically make a person a Muslim and thus they must follow the Quran or be seen as a blasphmer/heretic, etc. You said yes.
Guilty of what?
You don't follow the Quran either (your version or otherwise) but rather the interpretation of someone.
Yes, I know, you post that link continuously. But seeing as that is an interpretation, how is it any better than anyone else who might interpret the Quran?
By your postings, that's everyone here but you.
So you're basically using this as your personal religious blog and your personal push to force conversion to Islam?
Or he/she is just a pathetic little attention seeker who likes to push people's buttons and has found a simple way of doing so?
The Quran is in Arabic, while the English and other languages are the translations.
So when you want to translate any text from any language, you must understand the original text.. therefore, the English translation is in fact the translation of the meaning of the Quran.. so you must depend on a sound original text to convey the meaning to the foreign language.
It means you depend on the explanation of the Quran in Arabic to convey the meaning to the foreigner.
I gave here many examples about the Bible translations.
Because the Bible was not in English originally; the Torah originally was in Hebrew, while the Gospel was in the Aramic or Syro-Chaldaic language which was the language of Jesus Christ and his people at that time.
Because you are a doctor, I give you this example:
The Circumcision: means the circular incision (of the prepuce)
But in the Iraqi common tongue it is called Tuhoor, which means the purification.. the Israelite originally came from Iraq; their father Abraham was Iraqi.. the origin of their language is from Iraq.. moreover, the Israeli were captured twice and taken captives to Iraq.. once by Assure and once by the Babylonian.. they mixed also with the people of Iraq in the past.
When they returned to Palestine later on in the time of Nehemia, their tongue altered and their language changed.
What I am concerned about now: the Christ gave a parable, which you see in the Gospel: and was translated with error:
"It is not important the circumcision; the important is the circumcision of the heart!!!"
This is wrong: because the translator of the Bible did not understand the essence of the word; so he literally said: "the circumcision of the heart" i.e. the circular incision of the heart!!!
The true translation is like this: "It is not important the circumcision (or the 'Tuhoor' or purification) which you do to the prepuce; the important is the purification of the hearth"
So I depended on the interpretation of the Quran by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Mahdi or Al-Hilly because it is the clear and correct explanation to be translated and make the foreigner understand the true meaning.
I can give more explanation, but your intention is only to object and deny, not to inquire and understand.
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com
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All of you unanimously speak and utter the same words like the parrot.. your lies and claims are the falsehood, obviously.
And by God's help I'll refute all your claims.
Impostor.. the "shame of not following the Quran" is on you in fact.
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This is the internet.. it is open to all readers.. so my words are not directed to any of you, Zionists and Satanists, but to every person with intelligence and wit to reflect and reason the meaning of the Glorious Quran.
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com
While as regard you, the stubborn, one time I tell you: it is enough and the argument is established against you: you will be taken to account in the Next Life and you have no excuse.
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com
While as regard you, the stubborn, one time I tell you: it is enough and the argument is established against you: you will be taken to account in the Next Life and you have no excuse.
First to get out of the way, I'm not a doctor.
Second, I totally understand that the Quran is in Arabic, just as the Torah is in ancient Israeli and the original Bible in Greek.
Which also falls in line to my point.
You lose things in translation. Words are changed so they 'make sense' but in so doing that changes the text.
Throw in shifting that all into English and it becomes a clusterfuk.
All that said, unless you, personally, read the original texts you are STILL relying on someone to translate those texts into legible language for you to understand. Which means interpretation happens.
Which is the point.
Torch, you can use your translation/understanding all you want of the Quran but in reality that is not YOUR understanding, it's the understanding of someone else you are relying on. And in so doing your version of your faith is just that, a version.
Just like everyone else's version of their faith is their faith.
You CANNOT claim that what you follow is the true way of the Quran, because it's not.
And no, my point isn't to only object and deny, but my point is to point out the hypocrisy you follow is equal to that of all other faiths so you are no more entitled to speak on your faith as the "one true faith" than anyone else is. So your talk of Zionists and Christians also applies to you and your faith.
I follow nothing, ans that's extended word spelling like I'm drawing it all out long over time stressed on the vowels.
Loki f*cks Allah in the ass and wipes his dick on Muhammad's beard.
And you should see what Thor does after that!
And you should see what Thor does after that!
The Norse god of mischief. Once had a dog we named Loki. Most aptly named dog I ever had.
There's wisdom in the Quran, just as there is in the Bible.
Just because neither of 'em's the flawless Wurd of Gawd don't mean either one never hits the back of the net.
They just ain't all that.
As usual, you are full of it. There is no wisdom in the quran (and it doesn’t deserve to be capitalized).