I never demonized him. I said a pedophile was caught. Plain and simple. Child molestor, pedophile, kiddy diddler... makes no diff.
Pedophile teacher busted
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I never demonized him. I said a pedophile was caught. Plain and simple. Child molestor, pedophile, kiddy diddler... makes no diff.
He's never wrong. Ask him. He'll tell you...
:roll: over and over and over again....
Yep. A pedophile was caught. Thank goodness someone figured out what he was doing and put a stop to it.
I have reason, given the definitions of pedophilia, to use the word pedophile. You however, have only an apologetic reflex to try to avoid it despite the fact that it fits.
Why can't it be both? It is a sexual preference, but its also an unhealthy sexual preference and therefore a mental illness.
I doubt true pedophiles can change their stripes, but they might be able to be treated before they commit a crime. I'm with Cannuck on this one. Prevention (if possible) of sexual molestation is preferable to cutting the balls off pedophiles after they sexually assault a child. People with these tendencies should be able to get help before they commit a crime and be commended for doing that. I support toning down the rhetoric and only punishing people who commit this heinous crime. I am against punishing people who are only at the point where sexually molesting a child is still just a thought in their head. In fact, I'd prefer these people seek help and get it in a timely manner.
A right to health is also in the charter. No where in the charter does it give an adult the right to satisfy their sexual appetites at the expense of a child's right to health. The charter protects homosexuals because both are consenting adults and they have a right to pursue happiness. A child does not have the legal right to consent to sex. No they don't have the same rights as adults, nor should they. Its also why juveniles aren't punished as adults, nor should they.
The rhetoric he's referring to and protesting against is the use of the term pedophile. I'm sorry for such heavy handed rhetoric (no, I'm not really), but when one sexually molests children, one can expect the label. Sorry for any hurt feelings, but, if the shoe fits, wear it.
If you can explain better than him why a pedophile should be called anything else, feel free to try, but I doubt you'll make a case better than his, and you don't see me asking the mods to change my wording.
He sexually molested children. End of story.
The whole concept of calling it a sexual preference is to make it a legitimate choice, and to make it socially acceptable.
I have no problem with the term pedophile. It accurately describes their "condition". The rhetoric I was referring to was the demands to hang pedophiles, cut off their balls, cut off their penis and other ways that people describe what they'd do to a pedophile. If they've committed a crime, I prefer to let the criminal justice system deal with it, rather than vigilante justice. If they haven't committed a crime yet, then I'd want them in a treatment program and closely monitored.
Also I seriously doubt that pedophilia would ever become "socially acceptable" regardless of the terminology.
Also I seriously doubt that pedophilia would ever become "socially acceptable" regardless of the terminology.
There are many places a person can go and with complete anonymity be treated before actually going through with the urge. At any given time, you'll find people in addiction counselling just deal to with the urge. In fact, during my time in treatment for a painkiller problem, there were two in the same centre. I applaud and completely respect both the effort and their anonymity.
Of course he's a pedophile. Only individuals who've stepped in it and now can't back out because their ego won't allow them to capitulate would argue otherwise.
No, I'm sorry, but you jumped in and said you agreed with Cannuck. Do you or don't you? You might want to go re-read. He wasn't talking about vigilante justice. He was referring to the term pedophile being used.
Okay okay... I'll admit I'm being a dog with a bone... you said your stance. But let me just state... not once have I advocated vigilante justice or making this guy skip any portion of the legal system that will give him his chance to get help if needed.
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I'm with Cannuck in that I prefer prevention of a crime over punishing a person for a crime.
I also said that Cannck had a point that this person may not have been motivated by sex. Maybe he is a sick bastard who has taken spitting on someone's food to a whole new level and the children were victims of opportunity. If they find child porn on his computer, case closed. But if its images of children in bondage, then he might be something else.... I'm not saying this person is normal or healthy... just that his motivation may not have been sexual. Technically he might not be a pedophile but some sort of sadist.
Also, I support Cannuck in that debating an idea isn't the same as saying you approve or embrace an idea. I see no reason to attack Cannuck. At no point did he or I claim that pedophilia is rational, normal, shouldn't be a crime or defend the asshole who abused children.
I think pedophile is an accurate term to describe someone who is sexually attracted to children.
I also said that Cannck had a point that this person may not have been motivated by sex. Maybe he is a sick bastard who has taken spitting on someone's food to a whole new level and the children were victims of opportunity. If they find child porn on his computer, case closed. But if its images of children in bondage, then he might be something else.... I'm not saying this person is normal or healthy... just that his motivation may not have been sexual. Technically he might not be a pedophile but some sort of sadist.
Also, I support Cannuck in that debating an idea isn't the same as saying you approve or embrace an idea. I see no reason to attack Cannuck. At no point did he or I claim that pedophilia is rational, normal, shouldn't be a crime or defend the asshole who abused children.
I think pedophile is an accurate term to describe someone who is sexually attracted to children.
unworthy of him? Fully expected actually.
but no control over what persons with diminished brain capacities read into what she says.
It does not fit. As I've said, just because you or the cops want to twist the definition of "pedophilia", does not mean that the definition has changed.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out that some people throw labels around because they don't know the meaning
LOL...now you're just embarrassing yourself.