Pedophile teacher busted

karrie

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The story does not say but the fact that they are children may be irrelevant to this individual. They were simply an easy target. Perhaps, if he worked in a seniors home, he would be playing the tasting game with grandma.

What about the part of the story that said there were pics of kids beyond those from the classroom 'game'? Kids gagged, etc.? Kind of blows your theory.
 

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How many grannies to you think he had in his class room?
The same amount he had on his computer.

Lets see how easy it is to pick up wild granny pics...

Caution, NSFW, or the faint of heart.

wild grannies - Google Search

Since his cahe was full of kid picks. I'd say pedophile is a safe assumption. But you go right ahead and be a pedo-apologist. Looks good on a Police State special interest shill like you.
 

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I didn't note the age of the OP. And the line we legally draw at 18 is a bit arbitrary so I agree on that point.

But from reading forums (not just this one) when a female teacher is involved with a male student, it tends to be sluffed off more than the other way around.

There were no ages noted,in fact I don't even know if they specified only one gender, but as it's an elementary school it's not too difficult to surmise that they are younger than 17.

I don't disagree that there is often a double standard, but, and all due respect here sincerely, I'm thinking this is not the case to be making that comparison. Were it a story about a male high school teacher and a few 16, 17 or 18 year old girls, then it would be a valid comparison. That's just my opinion.

To my way of thinking, this particular fiend was also getting off on the degradation of his victims.
 

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You didn't note the age of the OP? Because there WAS no one age in the OP, there were classfuls of students. Did you read it?

I don't get why you are guys are even bringing any other abuse cases in trying to compare.

Yes I did read it. Because that is where the interesting discussion lies. Yes this guy is disgusting. Yes this guy is a pedophile. Yes he will get his in prison. What more is there to discuss?

There were no ages noted,in fact I don't even know if they specified only one gender, but as it's an elementary school it's not too difficult to surmise that they are younger than 17.

I don't disagree that there is often a double standard, but, and all due respect here sincerely, I'm thinking this is not the case to be making that comparison. Were it a story about a male high school teacher and a few 16, 17 or 18 year old girls, then it would be a valid comparison. That's just my opinion.

To my way of thinking, this particular fiend was also getting off on the degradation of his victims.

I missed the elementary part. My bad. And I do see the difference in the crime based upon age. And again, I was simply discussing and was not in any way trying to say this case is not disgusting or degrading to the victims.
 

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I missed the elementary part. My bad. And I do see the difference in the crime based upon age. And again, I was simply discussing and was not in any way trying to say this case is not disgusting or degrading to the victims.

Yes I get that. And as I said, no disrespect intended.

There are valid comparisons to be made with the point you mentioned earlier, I just don't think this is one of those situations. Other than that, I'm cool. :)
 

karrie

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I guess it just floored me that you'd even need to ask why I didn't feel the case of a teacher and a 17 year old was comparable to this. I believe there should be equality in sentencing for sex crimes, whether perpetrated by women or by men. I've stood my ground on that many times on this forum. but it still doesn't make the fact that a woman molested her student relevant in any way shape or form to this particular atrocity.
 

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What about the part of the story that said there were pics of kids beyond those from the classroom 'game'? Kids gagged, etc.? Kind of blows your theory.

Not really. It depends on the context. I'm not saying the guy isn't a sick ****.
 

karrie

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Not really. It depends on the context. I'm not saying the guy isn't a sick ****.


lol....You're trying to make a distinction that even the professions who deal with this haven't been able to make. Legally speaking, you're considered a pedophile if you sexually abuse children, even if you're only doing it opportunistically. to try to break it down and quibble that maybe, psychologically, he may not prefer kids, is a moot point UNLESS you're his shrink and trying to treat him. Normal people, and a typical court, view, classify, and deal with him, according to his actions, not according to his deep dark thoughts.
 

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All I can say is thank God someone caught on to what he was doing, and it's been stopped. I try not wish for justice at the hands of inmates, but I suspect this man will be eating a lot of prison pudding for years to come.


Accused teacher blindfolded kids for


Yikes....from the LINK: "....and spoon-feeding them a..."

I hope this Freak tests clean health-wise, and wasn't spoon
feeding these kids Herpes or something along those lines
beyond what has already occured.
 

SLM

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Yikes....from the LINK: "....and spoon-feeding them a..."

I hope this Freak tests clean health-wise, and wasn't spoon
feeding these kids Herpes or something along those lines
beyond what has already occured.

Oh God, I hope not. Like what he did wasn't skeevy enough!
 

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Legally speaking, you're considered a pedophile if you sexually abuse children even if you're only doing it opportunistically

Legally speaking yes. Medically speaking no.

to try to break it down and quibble that maybe, psychologically, he may not prefer kids, is a moot point UNLESS you're his shrink and trying to treat him.

Or if you are simply pointing out on a web forum that he may not, in fact, be a pedophile.
 

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I guess it just floored me that you'd even need to ask why I didn't feel the case of a teacher and a 17 year old was comparable to this. I believe there should be equality in sentencing for sex crimes, whether perpetrated by women or by men. I've stood my ground on that many times on this forum. but it still doesn't make the fact that a woman molested her student relevant in any way shape or form to this particular atrocity.

I did not have the history and your post seemed to read like you were dismissing the other simply because it was by a female teacher against male student(s). I will take your word that was not your intent.
 

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By which definition of pedophile? There are multiple definitions, which one is 'right'?

As a medical diagnosis, a pedophilia is defined as a psychiatric disorder characterized by a primary or exclusive interest in prepubescent children.

There are two different types of child molesters, situational and preferential. Pedophiles generally fall into the second group. As I said, there is nothing in the story that shows he has a preference to kids. He may just be morally indescriminant. That said, some studies indicate upwards of 95% of child molestation cases, involving preteens, involve pedophilia.

From your legal perspective, not all child sexual offenders are pedophiles and not all pedophiles engage in sexual abuse of children.
 
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Definitions

In law enforcement circles, the term "pedophile" is sometimes used in a broad manner to encompass a person who commits one or more sexually-based crimes that relate to legally underage victims. These crimes may include child sexual abuse, statutory rape, offenses involving child pornography, child grooming, stalking, and indecent exposure. One unit of the United Kingdom's Child Abuse Investigation Command is known as the "Paedophile Unit" and specializes in online investigations and enforcement work.[103] Some forensic science texts, such as Holmes (2008) use the term to refer to a class of psychological offender typologies that target child victims, even when such children are not the primary sexual interest of the offender.[104] The FBI, however, makes a point of acknowledging preferential sex offenders who have a true sexual preference for prepubescent children.[11]
 

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Definitions

In law enforcement circles, the term "pedophile" is sometimes used in a broad manner to encompass a person who commits one or more sexually-based crimes that relate to legally underage victims. These crimes may include child sexual abuse, statutory rape, offenses involving child pornography, child grooming, stalking, and indecent exposure. One unit of the United Kingdom's Child Abuse Investigation Command is known as the "Paedophile Unit" and specializes in online investigations and enforcement work.[103] Some forensic science texts, such as Holmes (2008) use the term to refer to a class of psychological offender typologies that target child victims, even when such children are not the primary sexual interest of the offender.[104] The FBI, however, makes a point of acknowledging preferential sex offenders who have a true sexual preference for prepubescent children.[11]


Just because the police use the label, doesn't mean they are correct.
 

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All I can say is thank God someone caught on to what he was doing, and it's been stopped. I try not wish for justice at the hands of inmates, but I suspect this man will be eating a lot of prison pudding for years to come.


Accused teacher blindfolded kids for

This article disgusts me even more than the one I originally read at Canoe. In the other article, it talked about how he took pictures with them blindfolded with cockroaches(the huge ones from Madagascar) on their faces/mouths and there was no mention about the taste tests. Perhaps that information wasn't released at the time the Canoe article was posted? I shudder to think what the next article could potentially contain. Each one gets more and more horrifying.:(

He's a sick **** and I don't give a rat's ass if he is determined to be a pedophile or not. I want him to be tossed in prison and NEVER see freedom again for the rest of his life...for however long the other inmates determine that to be.
 

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As a medical diagnosis, a pedophilia is defined as a psychiatric disorder characterized by a primary or exclusive interest in prepubescent children.

There are two different types of child molesters, situational and preferential. Pedophiles generally fall into the second group. As I said, there is nothing in the story that shows he has a preference to kids. He may just be morally indescriminant. That said, some studies indicate upwards of 95% of child molestation cases, involving preteens, involve pedophilia.

From your legal perspective, not all child sexual offenders are pedophiles and not all pedophiles engage in sexual abuse of children.

Who cares? What kind of individual is it that gives a damn whether some guy who spoon fed a bunch of prepubescent children semen is labled a pedophile or not?

You were right the first time, you are nit picking.

He's a sick **** and I don't give a rat's ass if he is determined to be a pedophile or not. I want him to be tossed in prison and NEVER see freedom again for the rest of his life...for however long the other inmates determine that to be.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. That's the way most people would look at this.