Zimmerman NOT guilty

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So, I can't help but think if Martin were the 28 yr old vigilante in the truck waiting for someone "suspicious" to come along and spotted a 17 yr old Zimmerman hoofing along in a "suspicious" manner on his way home and events went the same way, including the same people in the same courtroom battling over the same charges against Martin. Same circumstances except for the names and the skin color would be swapped. What do you think the verdict would have been?

BTW, the "convict-Zimmerman-crowd" is a little silly of a name to call people now, isn't it? He's "innocent" of the charges.
I'm the one who had the long argument stating that Zimmerman was not found innocent, he was found not guilty.

Your attempt to put words in my mouth is noted. And giggled at. Tee. Hee.
 

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I'm the one who had the long argument stating that Zimmerman was not found innocent, he was found not guilty.
Hence the "" I used around the word.
Your attempt to put words in my mouth is noted.
That's your perception. I didn't try that.
And giggled at. Tee. Hee.
Good. It was half intended to be humorous. :)
 

Locutus

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On Sunday, a far left Texas activist infiltrated a pro-Zimmerman rally in Houston and held up an outrageous sign promoting racism.

“Racist and Proud”



 

Locutus

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fukkin' ABC

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Media Hypes Zimmerman Juror Saying He “Got Away With Murder”… One Problem, ABC Edited The Tape To Make It Appear She Said It…

It’s almost like the media has an agenda here. It’s worth noting the far-left rag Salon is the one who caught what ABC did with their selective editing.

Via Salon:

Did George Zimmerman get away with murder? That’s what one of his jurors says, according to headlines in the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, and dozens of other newspapers. Trayvon Martin’s mother and the Martin family’s attorney are trumpeting this “new information” as proof that “George Zimmerman literally got away with murder.”

The reports are based on an ABC News interview with Juror B29, the sole nonwhite juror. She has identified herself only by her first name, Maddy. She’s been framed as the woman who was bullied out of voting to convict Zimmerman. But that’s not true. She stands by the verdict. She yielded to the evidence and the law, not to bullying. She thinks Zimmerman was morally culpable but not legally guilty. And she wants us to distinguish between this trial and larger questions of race and justice.

ABC News hasn’t posted a full unedited video or transcript of the interview. The video that has been broadcast—on World News Tonight, Nightline, and Good Morning America—has been cut and spliced in different ways, often so artfully that the transitions appear continuous. So beware what you’re seeing. But the video that’s available already shows, on closer inspection, that Maddy has been manipulated and misrepresented. Here are the key points.

1. The phrase “got away with murder” was put in her mouth. Nightline shows ABC interviewer Robin Roberts asking Maddy: “Some people have said, ‘George Zimmerman got away with murder. How do you respond to those people who say that?’ ” Maddy appears to reply promptly and confidently: “George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.” But that’s not quite how the exchange happened. In the unedited video, Roberts’ question is longer, with words that have been trimmed from the Nightline version, and Maddy pauses twice, for several seconds, as she struggles to answer it. “… George Zimmerman … That’s—George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.”

You have to watch her, not just read her words, to pick up her meaning. As she struggles to answer, she looks as though she’s trying to reconcile the sentiment that’s been quoted to her—that Zimmerman “got away with murder”—with her own perspective. So she repeats the quote and adds words of her own, to convey what she thinks: that there’s a justice higher than the law, which Zimmerman will have to face. She thinks he’s morally culpable, not legally guilty.


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If someone stood nose to nose with me, busted my nose, then proceeded to smash my head into the concrete....it is not reasonable to assume that they will stop before killing me. If I reacted with lethal force, it would be a rubber stamped case of self defense, imo.

So, what I don't understand is - assuming that zimmerman racially profiled, stalked and harassed trayvon, and even got out of his car to stand nose to nose with trayvon - how does that convert this case from self defense to murder? At this point, I'm not looking for an arguement near as much as I'm looking for an explanation on how someone could feel this way? Why? Where is the detail that makes him a murderer?
 

DaSleeper

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If someone stood nose to nose with me, busted my nose, then proceeded to smash my head into the concrete....it is not reasonable to assume that they will stop before killing me. If I reacted with lethal force, it would be a rubber stamped case of self defense, imo.

So, what I don't understand is - assuming that zimmerman racially profiled, stalked and harassed trayvon, and even got out of his car to stand nose to nose with trayvon - how does that convert this case from self defense to murder? At this point, I'm not looking for an arguement near as much as I'm looking for an explanation on how someone could feel this way? Why? Where is the detail that makes him a murderer?
Skin colour, and the need that people have to atone for the real or perceived sins of their ancestors........and a lot of them don't even believe in God........

Oh yes and a lot of P.C.ness
 

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Skin colour, and the need that people have to atone for the real or perceived sins of their ancestors........and a lot of them don't even believe in God........

Oh yes and a lot of P.C.ness

A lot of people were clearly NOT reading the title of the thread! It clearly states "Zimmerman NOT guilty!