Would Jesus, the Bringer of Light, condemn Yahweh for his mass murders?

French Patriot

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Would Jesus, the Bringer of Light, condemn Yahweh for his mass murders?

Reading the bible gives ones a certain idea of the character and sense of justice Jesus advocated. This is exemplified by his, “I come for the ill and not the well”, --- when asked why he hung out with the heathen other.

When comparing that attitude to Yahweh being moved by Satan to destroy man because of his own grand children’s antics, I note the conflict in attitude, where a Triune God would not have any.

Logically and morally, Jesus would condemn Yahweh because he believes in curing instead of killing.

I think Jesus to be way more moral and that Christianity screwed itself when it went Trinitarian, homophobic, and misogynous.

Be you a believer or not, this question is important, IMO, as Christianity and churches are still preaching for those abuses, against the law of the land.

Would Jesus and Satan, both Bringer of Light in Christianity, condemn Yahweh?

More importantly, do you?

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DL
 

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Would Jesus and Satan, both Bringer of Light in Christianity, condemn Yahweh?
Jesus no, he had plenty of opportunities in the New Testament and is not recorded as doing so, despite his core message being significantly at variance with what we see of Yahweh in the Old Testament. Satan yes, he's the adversary after all, of course he would, that's his job.
More importantly, do you?
Yes. Mass murderer, ethnic cleanser, spiteful, jealous, bad tempered, one of the most unpleasant characters anywhere in literature.
 

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Jesus no, he had plenty of opportunities in the New Testament and is not recorded as doing so, despite his core message being significantly at variance with what we see of Yahweh in the Old Testament. Satan yes, he's the adversary after all, of course he would, that's his job.

Yes. Mass murderer, ethnic cleanser, spiteful, jealous, bad tempered, one of the most unpleasant characters anywhere in literature.
Good.

Your first is also true, but his do unto others law would likely covered mass murder.

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DL
 

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Chew on this, was God admitting to a mistake by scrapping the old testament (a contract) for the new?
 

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Chew on this, was God admitting to a mistake by scrapping the old testament (a contract) for the new?
That’s one way to interpret it I suppose, though if god has the characteristics usually ascribed to him he doesn’t make mistakes. Jesus is reported in the NT as saying both that the old contract is still in force, that bit about not one jot or tittle of the law shall pass away, and that he represents a new deal. Take your pick. And stepping back to reality from Christian mythology, it’s clear from the fossil record that there have been at least five mass extinction events in the history of life on earth, which suggests to me that if this deity has any reality he got it wrong five times and did a massive reset for mysterious reasons of his own.

That and much else becomes much more explicable if you take the view that the postulated deity is a human invention. In particular it solves the problem of evil.
 
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That’s one way to interpret it I suppose, though if god has the characteristics usually ascribed to him he doesn’t make mistakes. Jesus is reported in the NT as saying both that the old contract is still in force, that bit about not one jot or tittle of the law shall pass away, and that he represents a new deal. Take your pick. And stepping back to reality from Christian mythology, it’s clear from the fossil record that there have been at least five mass extinction events in the history of life on earth, which suggests to me that if this deity has any reality he got it wrong five times and did a massive reset for mysterious reasons of his own.

That and much else becomes much more explicable if you take the view that the postulated deity is a human invention. In particular it solves the problem of evil.
Reality is not for everyone, as evidenced by so many chasing the supernatural as they destroy the natural ecosystem we rely on.

Stupid is as stupid does.

If they cannot blame a supernatural God, they have to recognize that they own their own blame.

God is their invisible security blanket and pacifier. Don't touch.

They will not step up to the adulthood, of standing on their own.

Pity for such should be our response, while fighting the evil side of their religions.

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DL
 

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Would Jesus, the Bringer of Light, condemn Yahweh for his mass murders?
More importantly, do you?
What do you mean by "murder", DL?

I searched for an applicable definition of murder online, including the etymology dictionary and was not able to find one.


What law is applied? Is Yahweh human? Who is able and qualified to judge Yahweh's mental status? morality?
 

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What do you mean by "murder", DL?

I searched for an applicable definition of murder online, including the etymology dictionary and was not able to find one.


What law is applied? Is Yahweh human? Who is able and qualified to judge Yahweh's mental status? morality?
The bible and common sense say that we are.

I am sure I will agree with whatever definition you want for premeditated mass murder by an entity that could cure just as easily.

The end of whatever definition I would give, is that I would not want murder done to me and the billions around me, --- especially by the one who supposedly made me what I am.

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DL
 

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Cure of what?
Whatever condition he is killing for.

Who am I to put limits to the biblical mythical fascist God.

There is the one version of God that says he is omni patient and will not lose any of us, but then, why the mass murders.

Seems rather impatient.

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DL
 

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As I watched the video clip, I wondered how we might account for Messianic Jews today. Perhaps they haven't seen the movie. Maybe they lack the logic and reason to understand it. What do you think? Why are there believing Jewish people today?
The real number is likely quite low.

Religions are all tribes.

We would still have divisive tribes even if we did not call them religions.

Jewry is in the same boat as other tribes. In their case, they are led by their oral traditions and those put man above the Gods we have created. Like many, their right wings have corrupted their thinking by belief in the supernatural.

In the movie, the Jews, even while not killing their logic and reason, end in praying to the God they just condemned.

Tribal affiliation has become more important than the morals and ethics they use.

That is why Christians can adore a vile and evil God.

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DL
 

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The real number is likely quite low
Here is one who is passionate about sharing Christ with his people
 

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Here is one who is passionate about sharing Christ with his people
Those who would ride Jesus as a scapegoat or use him as a Messiah show how immoral their thinking is.

They are moral cowards.

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DL