Woods' wife used golf club to free him from SUV

coldstream

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Apparently all of the Tiger Woods adds have been removed from television now.

It's unlikely that too many will actually revoke their contracts with the athlete (there'd be too much publicity around that), even if they have a 'morals' clause, which many of these agreements have. But most have a given time frames for renewal and resigning is going to problematic. His $100 million in endorsements could easily fall by 3/4 in a couple of years.

Well okay, most people can survive on 25 to 30 million USD a year, but i'm not sure if how easy it is to get his golf game back to its previous level. His singular focus, its key ingredient must have been trashed by all this.

At the same time you might say that he has enough money, he can retreat from the public eye in comfort. But for Tiger his public image IS his private identity. He needs that kind of acclamation to support any sense of self worth. At least thats what i've seen in some commentaries on the motivations of people singularly driven to win.

In any case, he's got a long way back. And i'm pessimistic his marriage will survive all this.
 

talloola

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The old role of nature vs. nurture maybe .... - I am merely saying that's where we stand now.Some men are fully complete having one wife and a family to nurture for the life lived..... and I would say those men are fortunate and evolved.

Yes, I would agree, very much like the eagle ' proud and honorable'.
 
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I think there are more important people in the world the media can concern themselves with than this loser.

yes JLM, and I am so glad I have discovered the real Tiger, as now Ican rearrange my thoughts about him, and will still be glad about allof the children that much of his money has 'helped', but the man insidethe chirade, has been found out, and obviously the people who love himthe most, are the first ones he chose to seriously hurt, and of coursewe are to believe he 'can't help it, well, poor him, someone betterrun that excuse by others who will lap it up with gusto, but thatisn't happening here, I'm with you on this one, he's a loser.
and like you, I am quickly learning to completely forget about himand spend my time focusing on more deserving individuals.
 

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oh boy, here comes the first excuse. Funny how he remembered how togolf, dress himself, do commercials, pretend to be a good husbandand father, what a crock.
i'm not suggesting that his fathers death is a valid excuse to cheat.
 

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yes JLM, and I am so glad I have discovered the real Tiger, as now Ican rearrange my thoughts about him, and will still be glad about allof the children that much of his money has 'helped', but the man insidethe chirade, has been found out, and obviously the people who love himthe most, are the first ones he chose to seriously hurt, and of coursewe are to believe he 'can't help it, well, poor him, someone betterrun that excuse by others who will lap it up with gusto, but thatisn't happening here, I'm with you on this one, he's a loser.
and like you, I am quickly learning to completely forget about himand spend my time focusing on more deserving individuals.

Yep, our young people are worshipping all the worst people for role models. WEll maybe NOT QUITE true, some still worship Trevor Linden.
 

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Yep, our young people are worshipping all the worst people for role models. WEll maybe NOT QUITE true, some still worship Trevor Linden.

Thats right, Trevor is a good person, and I just saw Terry Fox on TV doing his run, long ago, a youngperson who never had a chance to grow into adulthood and live hislife to the full, but we have learned many things from him, and hewill never be forgotton.Tiger who?
 

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Actually more surprising to me than the appearance of all these affairs, was the charges that are appearing now the prescription drug abuse, and alcohol consumption.

The girls have always been an occupational hazard for professional athletes. I'm not belittling or excusing it, but I've been in bars, well known watering holes for pro teams, and i've seen sports groupies descend on athletes there, throwing themselves at them. They actually always looked like those that are appearing on talk shows now and cashing in on the 15 minutes of fame. They could have come from the same mould.

But the drugs and alcohol....... !!.. Tiger is a gym rat. Up until a few years ago, by all reports he stayed away from drinking completely as something that would interrupt his rigorous work out and training regimen. There was no inferrence of any drug use until now, perfomance or recreational in character, but now that's all out of the window.

It strikes me that this is a personality in crisis, and it was building for a long time before in exploded into the public view in a minor auto accident a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Just out of curiosity, who created the innocent, fair-haired boy image for Tiger anyhow?

I think a certain amount of that just comes with being a celebrity these days ala Dennis Rodman, Mike Tyson, Brittany Spears, all of which if their wages were up to me, they be struggling on minimum wage. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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Thats right, Trevor is a good person, and I just saw Terry Fox on TV doing his run, long ago, a youngperson who never had a chance to grow into adulthood and live hislife to the full, but we have learned many things from him, and hewill never be forgotton.Tiger who?

Isn't that part of the issue.. Many of those who should be more idolized are not because they don't want it and are often out of the picture as they refuse the large contracts.

I saw Terry Fox run by my house in Quebec. It was amazing.. I wonder if Terry had ended his run if he would have ended up like Steve Fonyo ? Its hard to know as it will never happen.. Funny how fame can go to someones head..
 

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Thats right, Trevor is a good person, and I just saw Terry Fox on TV doing his run, long ago, a youngperson who never had a chance to grow into adulthood and live hislife to the full, but we have learned many things from him, and hewill never be forgotton.Tiger who?

Yep, Terry too for sure. I participated in the run most years (actually I was walking:smile:) but it got missed this year due to being busy with this moving process. I suppose when it boils right down to it (in this day and age) Tiger's behaviour is about par for the course (the course of life :smile::smile:) and his marital problems are really no ones business, still should give him credit as a golfer. But yeah, I won't be spending premium bucks buying stuff with his name on it. I guess Canucks were pretty decent last light..............Dan went on a rampage.
 

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Isn't that part of the issue.. Many of those who should be more idolized are not because they don't want it and are often out of the picture as they refuse the large contracts.

I saw Terry Fox run by my house in Quebec. It was amazing.. I wonder if Terry had ended his run if he would have ended up like Steve Fonyo ? Its hard to know as it will never happen.. Funny how fame can go to someones head..

I think poor old Steve kind of got a bum rap- he had his demons, that's for sure & I guess a weakness for booze was one of his worst enemies (and not learning from his own mistakes) but you have to give the Devil his due.............lot of guts that boy. He ran in the winter too.
 

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I think poor old Steve kind of got a bum rap- he had his demons, that's for sure & I guess a weakness for booze was one of his worst enemies (and not learning from his own mistakes) but you have to give the Devil his due.............lot of guts that boy. He ran in the winter too.

But again JLM, he was his worse enemy.. He had a bright future ahead and let it all slip away.. No one to blame but himself..
 

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But again JLM, he was his worse enemy.. He had a bright future ahead and let it all slip away.. No one to blame but himself..

Twenty years ago I'd have agreed with you 100%, but knowing so many very intelligent people (in my own family included) who have got derailed and who hurt, sometimes I wonder if there aren't forces at work that I don't understand and neither do the victims. With some it's a form of mental illness, if the deficiency was due to heart disease or cancer, we wouldn't be so fast to condemn them. AS a person with medical connections S.J.- what say you?
 

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Really? I always thought the evolution of Tiger Woods amounted to people not quite believing that a black man had skill at a 'white' game, and putting him on a media pedestal. The Larry Bird of golf. And the fact that I (who know nothing about sports) know who Larry Bird is, should tell everyone something, about how the media loves to cover men who don't fit into the preconceived notions society holds.
 

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Yep, Terry too for sure. I participated in the run most years (actually I was walking:smile:) but it got missed this year due to being busy with this moving process. I suppose when it boils right down to it (in this day and age) Tiger's behaviour is about par for the course (the course of life :smile::smile:) and his marital problems are really no ones business, still should give him credit as a golfer. But yeah, I won't be spending premium bucks buying stuff with his name on it. I guess Canucks were pretty decent last light..............Dan went on a rampage.

yep, they needed that win, atlanta are a disorganized, run and gun team,and they also had played the night before, Kovalchuk didn't have hisusual brilliant performance, so we lucked out a little. 7 more at home, and we needall of them to stay in the hunt.
 

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Really? I always thought the evolution of Tiger Woods amounted to people not quite believing that a black man had skill at a 'white' game, and putting him on a media pedestal. The Larry Bird of golf. And the fact that I (who know nothing about sports) know who Larry Bird is, should tell everyone something, about how the media loves to cover men who don't fit into the preconceived notions society holds.

not at all. Tiger Woods was a brilliant golfer as a child, and he isn't a black man, he is half black/half asian. He earned all of hismedals, and trophys as he grew up, broke many records as a junior,and stepped right into the pro ranks with the amunition to do it all,and he has. It is his ability to golf, his ability to come acrossas a pure athlete, who thinks only of his sport and knows the bestway to keep himself at the top, he has a personality to draw othersto him, and the mental toughness to do it all in front of the world. Of course the companies want to sponsor athletes like that, it is allabout money for them, and since his downfall they have not shown anycommercials with tiger in them, at least for now, guess they are allsitting back to see how this all comes out.Being black had nothing to do with his success, but having some blackblood in him, did help the black people come out and have more interest, and probably also forced biggoted people to 'shut up'.
the black/white barriers have been broken through for many years now,since black baseball players were accepted, this is nothing new, andif he had been white, like nicklaus or palmer, the success he has hadwould still have happened, he just would have looked like the same olesame ole. Arnold Palmer was loved and admired same as tiger is/was?many yearsago, then niklaus, and on it goes, and another one will pop up sooni'm sure.people just love to follow their favourite brilliant athletes, that'sjust the way it goes.
 

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Oh, I wasn't talking about his success, I was talking about his image. They're two slightly different things.