Woods' wife used golf club to free him from SUV

L Gilbert

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Spoken like a true eco anarchist/ socialist or whatever you are L.. Unfortunately, like usual, you are making much sense.
I know.

So am i to take it that corporations are imposing adultery and marriage breakdown and homosexuality and the other corrosive elements on our society on us to improve their bottom lines. :roll:
Nope. All they have to do is tell us what our values should be (consumerism, political polarisation, etc. and we leap in with both feet and do the rest).

I have been vocal in other threads of the absense of moral responsibility in corporations and in government alike in our society, but i know things like that are ultimately in our own hands. Follow a gospel of truth and none of it will happen, follow a gospel of radical individual gratification and it will, corporations or not. :smile:
BS. People are lazy. Most love having guidance from some place that feeds their fantasies. Strict rules against having fun such as are in the Bible and Quran and the like are unpleasant. It's got nothing to do with gods and everything to do with human nature.
 

Kreskin

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If I was Tiger, I would encourage Elin and Nike to develop a signature ladies set in her name. At least everyone could laugh together.
 

Kreskin

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Les, I wonder if we'll see all sorts of copycat incidents over the next few years. Read the news and see yet another woman wrapping her hubbie's golf club around his neck.
 

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I do find it funny, because when you first posted, it wasn't to criticize the speculation... it was to say...

"Yes he is a hero, just do some research and find out...
Whatever his problem was in the middle of the night driving out of his driveway,
is probably something any one of us could have had, and after hearing him
interviewed many many times, he would be the last one to want his private business
splattered around, even with all that wealth, he really is just a nice guy."

Because some had implied that he might not be as perfect a person as the media makes out. And yes, you seem mighty ticked that you were wrong. Sorry, but that's how you're coming across.

As for what I would do.... it has nothing to do with what some other woman ought to do, or what's best for her family.

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talloola

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I do find it funny, because when you first posted, it wasn't to criticize the speculation... it was to say...

"Yes he is a hero, just do some research and find out...
Whatever his problem was in the middle of the night driving out of his driveway,
is probably something any one of us could have had, and after hearing him
interviewed many many times, he would be the last one to want his private business
splattered around, even with all that wealth, he really is just a nice guy."

Because some had implied that he might not be as perfect a person as the media makes out. And yes, you seem mighty ticked that you were wrong. Sorry, but that's how you're coming across.

As for what I would do.... it has nothing to do with what some other woman ought to do, or what's best for her family.

No Karrie, that is how 'you' think I come across.Until there were facts on the table, I will always see the situationas it always has been, in my view. Until this incident, I viewed him as a real hero, because of his enormous contributions, with his foundation for children.There hasnever been any news to indicate this type of behavior, so, as withanyone I know, or know about, I will not change that view until thereis evidence, factual evidence to see that person otherwise.Now there is.He is still the person who will help millions of children who otherwisewould not be able to accomplish what they dream about, and he eventually willstill golf like he has always golfed, but in my eyes he will never bethe person I thought he was, because he 'isn't'. He cannot change, or turn back the clock to undo his shabby behavior,so that's the way it is, that's life.There is a 'rumour' that he is going to appear on 'Opra' to try toclean up his image, and I'm sure between his 'guys' who do all of hissecurity and management, and Opra, they will do a 'whitewash' for himand suck in many people as to 'why' he behaved in such a disgustingmanner. It will be interesting to watch. It will be like making amovie, because this is his livlihood, he needs all of those sponsorsto stick with him, and how this show is produced will be very importantto him, but it won't change anything for me, what is done, is done.I am also realizing that this kind of behavior is taken much moreseriously by my generation than those that follow, (not all), but ingeneral seems that, so to many what he has done isn't really all thatbad or surprising, so that's the way time changes things, and when Iand the rest of my generation is gone, there won't be so much backlashwhen stories like this appear.Doesn't matter, to me, what he and his wife eventually end up doingabout their situation, I have made my opinion clear what I thinkshe should do, doesn't have anything to do with, 'what she will actually do'.I will not speculate or make snide comments or jokes when all I amreading is gossip, and that is how it was first few days, and evenwhen it all became factual, joking about such a tragic story seems sohorrible, but then again, I am 71yrs. old, seems to make a difference,but I wouldn't change for the world.
Do you really believe that I was irritated because I found out that Iwas mistaken about his character?It takes a much younger and dumberperson than I to go back that far to worry about being wrong aboutsomething, I got over that about 50 years ago. Being wrong aboutsomething is a learning experience, and this issue is one of them,and I am thankful for that, now I know his real character, and Iobviously didn't before. Thanks Tiger.
 

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I know.

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oops.. i meant.. NOT making much sense, but i'm sure you grasped that, L. :smile:



Rabbi Schmuli, who has counselled hundreds of high profile entertainers and athletes, was interviewed on CTV News Channel this morning and had some insightful comments on the real nature of serial infidelity.

He noted it was often the same thing as that which spurred the individual to put in the type of sacrifices it took to become the 'best in the world' at his chosen field.. in a kind of malignant inversion.

It is driven by a deep sense of inadequacy and insecurity.. manifested in a need to objectify women as a sport and conquest.. and thus humiliate his spouse and family.. and reduce them to mere trophy of his success. It has very little to do with sex.. like all behavioural pathologies it has more to do with power, or perceived lack thereof.

You can find it in the Video section at the CTV News Channel website and its worth watching.

Whatever the case it seldom comes out in a positive way, for the athlete, for his family or for the girl's he's 'hooked up' with.
 
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Kreskin

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I don't know about on this board but I've been to a few places where women have said that all of this media coverage must be hurting Elin.

Yes, she discovered there is more to Tiger's game than a hole-in-one, but what did Elin expect would happen after taking a 6-iron to his head?

If she hadn't beaten the guy to the point where he was incapable of driving a vehicle in a straight line, she could've quietly left him. Would still be news but not like this.
 

talloola

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I don't know about on this board but I've been to a few places where women have said that all of this media coverage must be hurting Elin.

Yes, she discovered there is more to Tiger's game than a hole-in-one, but what did Elin expect would happen after taking a 6-iron to his head?

If she hadn't beaten the guy to the point where he was incapable of driving a vehicle in a straight line, she could've quietly left him. Would still be news but not like this.

Maybe she will quietly leave him, but I wonder how one would quietlyand immediately walk away and pack one's bag, on finding out aboutall of the women, or even one, we can only speculate on exactly whathappened in that house, but it must have been at that exact time that she realized what he has been doing, and we have no clue whatwas said then, or done by whom.I'm just glad that she didn't kill him or seriously wound him, becausethe real person at fault here would have shifted to her, and everyonewould have been mad at her for taking their 'tiger' away.not that he didn't deserve it.
 

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oops.. i meant.. NOT making much sense, but i'm sure you grasped that, L. :smile:
I'm sure a lot of things don't make sense to you. :)



Rabbi Schmuli, who has counselled hundreds of high profile entertainers and athletes, was interviewed on CTV News Channel this morning and had some insightful comments on the real nature of serial infidelity.

He noted it was often the same thing as that which spurred the individual to put in the type of sacrifices it took to become the 'best in the world' at his chosen field.. in a kind of malignant inversion.

It is driven by a deep sense of inadequacy and insecurity.. manifested in a need to objectify women as a sport and conquest.. and thus humiliate his spouse and family.. and reduce them to mere trophy of his success. It has very little to do with sex.. like all behavioural pathologies it has more to do with power, or perceived lack thereof.

You can find it in the Video section at the CTV News Channel website and its worth watching.

Whatever the case it seldom comes out in a positive way, for the athlete, for his family or for the girl's he's 'hooked up' with.
It's a possibility. Personally, I think a lot of it is simply an inability to get past the superficiality and develop a deeper relationship. IOW, some people just don't take marriage seriously.
 

talloola

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oops.. i meant.. NOT making much sense, but i'm sure you grasped that, L. :smile:



Rabbi Schmuli, who has counselled hundreds of high profile entertainers and athletes, was interviewed on CTV News Channel this morning and had some insightful comments on the real nature of serial infidelity.

He noted it was often the same thing as that which spurred the individual to put in the type of sacrifices it took to become the 'best in the world' at his chosen field.. in a kind of malignant inversion.

It is driven by a deep sense of inadequacy and insecurity.. manifested in a need to objectify women as a sport and conquest.. and thus humiliate his spouse and family.. and reduce them to mere trophy of his success. It has very little to do with sex.. like all behavioural pathologies it has more to do with power, or perceived lack thereof.

You can find it in the Video section at the CTV News Channel website and its worth watching.

Whatever the case it seldom comes out in a positive way, for the athlete, for his family or for the girl's he's 'hooked up' with.

I watched the interview with the rabbi, and he is a very intelligentman with good things to say, and I like his suggestion that men thinkhard about being 'men of honour', and take their responsibilitiesof marriage very serious and live up to them, and he said many otherthings I admired.
 

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That's besides the fact one of those women took nude pics of him and from what I hear is planning to sell them to playgirl .. I guess he has a new sponsor on his list :)

At least that's what I heard in the news..
 

Kreskin

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It was reported today that since November 29 there hasn't been one Tiger ad on TV. So much for his sponsors standing behind him.
 

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It was reported today that since November 29 there hasn't been one Tiger ad on TV. So much for his sponsors standing behind him.
most sponsors would want someone who has a squeaky clean image with family values. there has been some speculation that his fathers death caused him to sprial downwards.
 

Kreskin

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That could be true. I don't think any young billionaire with women chasing him should get married. Stuff like this is going to happen.