Winter officially begins in our neck of the woods.

#juan

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No Thanks.....;-) We're expecting snow on Christmas eve or Christmas day. Be great for the grandkids but we can do with out it when it comes six feet at a time. After boxing day we'll take rain until March.....if we have a choice.....:lol:
 

bobnoorduyn

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lol or in the BC interior like this:


Yep, you sure get your snow. At least it melts at some point, out here the only time we don't get mud is when it's frozen. And when its not and its mixed with snow, now that's a real treat.
 

VanIsle

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We had fairly heavy snow falls in Vernon earlier in the week. I have yet to see any of those sidewalk ploughs here, but I do notice some of the sidewalks being cleared by the people who live adjacent. That to me seems like a good idea (no sidewalk in front of my place :lol:) as it should help to reduce taxes. On the flip side when taking my walk I walk on the road many times as the sidewalks are treacherous. However they are cleared, they should be if the powers that be are really serious about getting people out of their cars. I personally think able bodied residents should clear the sidewalk in front of their place and maybe it wouldn't hurt them to do it for an elderly neighbour.
Vernon has a by-law in place stating you must shovel the snow in front of your house within 24 hours or you will be fined. Neighbours are very willing to report others for not obeying that law. We lived on a really good street and our last 7 years there, we didn't have that much snow. I often shovelled our driveway and all the sidewalk in front of the house and our neighbours on either side were good at clearing theirs too. We had an elderly couple on the street and my husband would try to get over to clear theirs for them. He didn't always get there because sometimes he was at work when it snowed. The neighbour on one side of us would race over to see if he could do it because the cheap S.O.B. would charge them. He was a retired school teacher so he wasn't in need. Beat his kids, charged the neighbour for such things and then called himself a christian (born again).
 

VanIsle

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No Thanks.....;-) We're expecting snow on Christmas eve or Christmas day. Be great for the grandkids but we can do with out it when it comes six feet at a time. After boxing day we'll take rain until March.....if we have a choice.....:lol:
You must have watched/heard a different weather report than I did. I'll have to check again but I did hear the radio report stating we would have a green Christmas.
 

JLM

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Vernon has a by-law in place stating you must shovel the snow in front of your house within 24 hours or you will be fined. Neighbours are very willing to report others for not obeying that law. We lived on a really good street and our last 7 years there, we didn't have that much snow. I often shovelled our driveway and all the sidewalk in front of the house and our neighbours on either side were good at clearing theirs too. We had an elderly couple on the street and my husband would try to get over to clear theirs for them. He didn't always get there because sometimes he was at work when it snowed. The neighbour on one side of us would race over to see if he could do it because the cheap S.O.B. would charge them. He was a retired school teacher so he wasn't in need. Beat his kids, charged the neighbour for such things and then called himself a christian (born again).

"Christians" aren't necessary the nicest people, and "born again" can be the worst- they are just not taking any chances. :lol::lol::lol:
 

bobnoorduyn

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Vernon has a by-law in place stating you must shovel the snow in front of your house within 24 hours or you will be fined. Neighbours are very willing to report others for not obeying that law.

Greetings VI; we haven't chatted in awhile. Anyway, that sounds a bit Orwellian, the reporting that is. Most places I've lived, reporting someone is usually the last resort after averything else has failed. Sidewalk cleaning in Halifax is always a bone of contention this time of year, they too must be cleaned by the property owner, but as snow accumulates there is nowhere to put it in the more cramped areas of the city; it gets pushed onto the sidewalk byt the plows and pushed back onto the road by the property owner, and they cycle continues, (glad I'm not a city dweller). The other irritant is the parking ban. Vehicles must be off the street between, (I believe) midnight and 7:00 a.m. from Dec 1st to, I think March sometime, or face a $50 pinch. Apparently a whole whack of vehicles got nabbed Dec. 1st for this, and there was no snow in sight and none forecast. But the law is the law. And this goes for the entire Halifax Regional Municipality, which covers quite a large land mass including rural and semi rural areas.

We missed the brunt of the weakened nor'easter that hammered the East coast this past week. We got about 6" last night, but I guess Halifax and Dartmouth got it worse. Funny though, The plow went by about six times, 3 of which were after the snow stopped. Our tax money hard at work.;-)
 

JLM

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Greetings VI; we haven't chatted in awhile. Anyway, that sounds a bit Orwellian, the reporting that is. Most places I've lived, reporting someone is usually the last resort after averything else has failed. Sidewalk cleaning in Halifax is always a bone of contention this time of year, they too must be cleaned by the property owner, but as snow accumulates there is nowhere to put it in the more cramped areas of the city; it gets pushed onto the sidewalk byt the plows and pushed back onto the road by the property owner, and they cycle continues, (glad I'm not a city dweller). The other irritant is the parking ban. Vehicles must be off the street between, (I believe) midnight and 7:00 a.m. from Dec 1st to, I think March sometime, or face a $50 pinch. Apparently a whole whack of vehicles got nabbed Dec. 1st for this, and there was no snow in sight and none forecast. But the law is the law. And this goes for the entire Halifax Regional Municipality, which covers quite a large land mass including rural and semi rural areas.


We missed the brunt of the weakened nor'easter that hammered the East coast this past week. We got about 6" last night, but I guess Halifax and Dartmouth got it worse. Funny though, The plow went by about six times, 3 of which were after the snow stopped. Our tax money hard at work.;-)

That's your bureaucrats for you, when they haven't got anything useful to do, they pool their efforts to make life miserable for people. I personally wish Gov't. would get out of running just about everything.
 

JLM

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Private enterprise running winter works? I'll say one word about that.... Ontario

I'll grant you that road maintenance is one area, that in some cases is successfully run by gov't. In B.C. we privatized it in 1987 and in some jurisdictions across the province, there have been problems, whereas in a few jurisdictions previously the performance was professional and done in a timely manner. It depends on the "workers" in the system, but the problem with gov't is too top heavy with bureaucrats like "personell" dept.
 

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Kakato

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Are they soaking your roads (and concrete structures full of rebar) with calcium chloride?

They wouldnt even use it when they took over,they use potash instead,much more enviro friendly.

We also used it in the strip mine as calcium was a grader operators worse nightmare when used improperly.
Just over the border in BC where they privatized it is a different story,sometimes they have to phone and wake the plow operators up to get highway #3 open and the odd time our guys even sneak in to BC and do the big hill before the border so the semis dont spin out leaveing the scales.

22 years of driving into BC and it just got worse every year after privatized.8O
 

Mowich

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Kakato:
22 years of driving into BC and it just got worse every year after privatized.

You have that right, kakato. Here in the boonies we are lucky to see a plow come by within three days of a snowfall. They do two swipes of the Canim-Hendrix hwy and are outta here. The sideroads, such as I live on, can sit for awhile they figure.

In the summer it is no better. They will not cut the weeds down on the side of the highway until fall by which time they are dieing anyway. In the meantime, the alfalfa grows so high it blocks clear vision especially on corners.

We got a good dump of snow last night and it is still coming down. Will let you know when we finally see a plow.
 

lone wolf

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Here, they use salt - good ol Goderich Ontario salt - lots and lots and lots of concrete-spalding salt. It's all wetted by generous helpings of rebar-eating, wetlands-destructive calcium chloride because it makes the salt work at lower temperatures. They don't like sand because it costs money to broom up ... and the yuppies in their Beamers simply have to have bare asphalt for their high-speed passes....
 
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