"Why won't God heal amputees?"

captain morgan

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Aren't saying what?

Does this help?

Catholicism is the largest religious denomination in the world. 16% of the world is Catholic. So the numbers are comparably close. By your logic, if you are a Catholic, you should believe that 84% of the world is delusional, which makes you pompous and arrogant. Every other religion would have a higher percentage of the world that it thinks is delusional.
 

Corduroy

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Does this help?

Exactly what I thought. If you continue to read my post, you will notice that I don't think that Catholics or atheists are saying a huge percentage of the world is delusional. There isn't any point in arguing with you, petros or gerryh if you don't bother reading and understanding.
 

gerryh

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Exactly what I thought. If you continue to read my post, you will notice that I don't think that Catholics or atheists are saying a huge percentage of the world is delusional. There isn't any point in arguing with you, petros or gerryh if you don't bother reading and understanding.


Oh, "we" understand perfectly. The vast majority of atheists that I have come in contact with think EXACTLY that. That those of faith are OBVIOSLY delusional. The atheists on this board, including dexter, have stated exactly that.
 

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Putting each other under the microscope and passing judgment in a generalizing way exists in some atheist's, as well as many theists. In reality we all judge each other to one degree or another regardless of what camp we're in. I guess my thought would be, if you believe in what someone said , judge not, that you be not judged, why would you not follow that advise if you followed the teacher. My daughter is not a theist and you will rarely hear her condemning or judging others. She follows certain teachings, more than most religious folks I've known. Comes natural to her. She cares about the feelings of others. She sure didn't learn it from her dad because I've been a judgmental prick most of my life.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Oooooooooh yes indeed you have.
No I have not, it's just that your mind doesn't grasp the subtleties of what I've actually argued. It's called The Problem of Evil--you can look that up--and no religion has produced a satisfactory explanation of it since an ancient Greek first framed the basic question.
 

petros

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That was never an argument I used, though I can see how an unsubtle mind might think I had.

Do you have memory loss?

No I have not, it's just that your mind doesn't grasp the subtleties of what I've actually argued. It's called The Problem of Evil--you can look that up--and no religion has produced a satisfactory explanation of it since an ancient Greek first framed the basic question.

Bullsh-t!!!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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No I have not, it's just that your mind doesn't grasp the subtleties of what I've actually argued. It's called The Problem of Evil--you can look that up--and no religion has produced a satisfactory explanation of it since an ancient Greek first framed the basic question.
Have to disagree with you on that one, Dex. Sorry.

I think the so-called Problem of Evil is mental masturbation, and the same kind of bullsh*t semantic nit-picking practiced so often (but not nearly so well) on this board every day.
 

petros

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Without a knowledge of the law of large numbers I said say "wow, what coincidence the problem of evil keeps popping up from atheists".

Rule of thumb: if black comes up on a roulette wheel, don't bet red, let it ride on black.
 

Locutus

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"And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."


John 14:13-14


So, again, why doesn't Jesus heal amputees?

probably because Jesus was talking to his disciples here, no one else. a simple one-off discussion.
 

Sons of Liberty

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Outstanding. Argumentation ad populum. A logical fallacy so old and well-known it has a name in Latin.

Tbones, make a point.

Catholicism is the largest religious denomination in the world. 16% of the world is Catholic. So the numbers are comparably close. By your logic, if you are a Catholic, you should believe that 84% of the world is delusional, which makes you pompous and arrogant. Every other religion would have a higher percentage of the world that it thinks is delusional.

My logic? I have faith, not logic. It is you and your ilk that do not believe in a supernatural being. The 16% Catholics don't think the rest of 86% is delusional, that's your mantra.


Fortunately, your argument isn't actually saying anything. Delusional is strong word with implications of mental incapacity. "Wrong" or "mistaken" are closer to how most people actually feel about others who disagree with them. If you said it like that it wouldn't have the same hyperbolic impact you're looking for and would fall completely flat.

It's not hyperbolic, atheists/agnostics always refer to supernatural entities as myth, legend lacking evidence believed by crazies, maybe not you, but certainly the majority of atheists believe we are delusional.