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What's the first thing a work crew does when major construction or reconstruction is about to take place?

I won't wait for an answer...I doubt you know anyways...

They build a road for the multitude of heavy equipment that will undoubtedly be needed. A lawn is not safe for cranes, work trucks and other assorted heavy equipment.

How convenient...

btw...the lawn was damaged, just not where you keep pulling pic's from. LMAO!!!

Moron...unlike you, I read everything posted. Why do you think I'm so much smarter then you?

C;mon now, use what little grey matter you have to formulate those asinine questions better.

Why do you think I'm so much smarter then you?

you havent showed it so far m8



Image : U.S. Marine Corps, Cpl. Jason Ingersoll

Image : U.S. Army
The two photographs in question 2 show the building just after the attack. We may observe that the aircraft only hit the ground floor. The four upper floors collapsed towards 10.10 am. The building is 26 yards high.

Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground


how far back do i have to go bloody CANADA
 

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When asked by a journalist: "Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?"
"First of all, the question about the aircraft, there are some small pieces of aircraft visible from the interior during this fire-fighting operation I'm talking about, but not large sections. In other words, there's no fuselage sections and that sort of thing." " You know, I'd rather not comment on that. We have a lot of eyewitnesses that can give you better information about what actually happened with the aircraft as it approached. So we don't know. I don't know."
When asked by a journalist: "Where is the jet fuel?"
"We have what we believe is a puddle right there that the -- what we believe is to be the nose of the aircraft. So -"
The quotations in Question 6 correspond to statements made by Arlington County Fire Chief, Ed Plaugher, at a press conference held by Assistant Defence Secretary, Victoria Clarke, on 12 September 2001, at the Pentagon.
Can you explain why the County Fire Chief could not tell reporters where the aircraft was?
 

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you havent showed it so far m8
8O, but you have? You are delusional...:lol:

Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground
It didn't, but if you look at your photo, there is a rise in the terrain as you go away from the building. Not surprised you missed that, as do most of the CT folk. Hence why there is no visible scare on the ground immediately beside the building.
how far back do i have to go bloody CANADA
To the top of the grade, where the video fully and clearly shows the initial impact. This isn't rocket science, nut I am convinced that grade school science isn't your strong suit either. So I won't hold out hope for anything to sink in here.

The photograph above shows the lawn in front of the damaged building.

You'll remember that the aircraft only hit the ground floor of the Pentagon's first ring. Can you find debris of a Boeing 757-200 in this photograph?
No, but I can't identify whether or not I know anyone either. But I'm sure that photo is all you need to prove your point...:roll:
 

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Pentagon Impact Damage

Many skeptics of the official account of the Pentagon attack have noted that the pattern of damage to the Pentagon's facade does not have much relationship to the profile of a 757-200, the kind of plane that Flight 77 was.
e x c e r p t title: Flight 77 - Pentagon Event - 3d Test authors: Silent but Deadly [SIZE=-1]This French researcher created simulations showing the size of a 757 relative to the building.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]site: www.ifrance.fr/silentbutdeadly [/SIZE]

In the simulation above, the damage to the facade was determined by combining multiple photographs, each of which clearly shows the condition of some portion of the wall. The clean lawn shown in the simulation is misleading, since none of the pre-collapse photographs give a clear picture of the condition of the lawn near the building, and some show significant debris fields. It is also misleading in the following two ways:
  • It makes objects in the construction yard appear right up against the facade, supporting the idea that objects in the flight-path remained standing. In fact, the cable spools that appear against the wall were 25-70 feet away from it.
  • It depicts the plane as a stainless steel solid object, reinforcing a common misconception about the construction of aircraft. In fact, jetliners are very light and fragile compared to buildings, their aluminum hulls being less than 2 mm thick.
Photographs show that the maximum extent of impact damage consisting of broken-away walls is about 96 feet wide on the first floor, 18 feet wide on the second floor, and about 26 feet high. This contrasts with an impact profile of a 757 at a 45-degree angle to the wall of 177 feet wide and 40 feet tall.

There is a question of how much the impact of a 757 would have damaged the thick masonry walls of the building. Perhaps the walls were strong enough to prevent breaching by bulky parts of a jetliner such as the outer wings and tail. The situation is somewhat analogous to a crash study involving the collision of an F-4 with a concrete block. In the test, the entire plane was reduced to confetti, while the concrete block sustained only a shallow impression. However, examination of the Pentagon's facade reveals that regions that would have been hit by the wings and tail of a 757 show neither broken windows nor evidence of scoring of the relatively soft limestone.
Also, photographs show what appear to be still-standing columns where some of the densest and longest parts of the plane would have passed, such as on the first floor to the right of the hole's center, where the right engine would have entered, and an apparent dangling column in the second-floor puncture, where the upper part of the fuselage would have entered. However, it is not clear that those objects were columns, and there is evidence that the leaning objects on the first floor are not damaged columns, but are hanging pieces of the second-story floor.
One deficiency of analyses purporting to show that a 757 impact could not have produced the observed damage to the Pentagon is a failure to take into account the blast hardening of the facade. The nature of that hardening remains, like all information about the structural composition of the buildings attacked on 9/11/01, the subject of considerable uncertainty. For example, if the windows were composed of thick carbonate panes, they may have been able to repel lighter fragments of the plane without breaking. Nonetheless, the apparently unscored limestone in the supposed path of the wing ends and tail section seem difficult to reconcile with such a crash. However, if these portions of the jetliner were destroyed just before impact, as proposed by French researcher Eric Bart, it is conceivable that they would have been reduced to small debris so as to leave no impression on the facade. Meanwhile the punctured areas of the facade were large enough to admit the vast majority of the aircraft into the building
 

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I can't believe that some people are still debating the plane or missile aspect of the grand conspiracy. It first came up when videos of the crash were not immediately released. That was shot down with the release of the videos. Then the fools said that because all 300 or so films from the videos were not released that it must have been a missile. That was also shot down because all 300 cameras were not focused on the crash site. Then the ct's complained because one of their fools could not get someone to match serial numbers from the plane engines. It just goes on and on,and then when you think they might finally understand the sheer lunacy of their position,they forget everything and start over.It is a mental disease. CT'S,Where are all the people from the flight? Why hasn't anyone from their families spilled the beans? Or why hasn't anyone else involved in their disappearance talked? Willy couldn't even keep his little cigar incident out of the papers,but we are supposed to believe that Bushco is thousands of times sneakier and more efficient. Sheesh.
 

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Where are all the people from the flight?

That would be the easiest to answer....

If they (whomever THEY may be) would do away with 3000 people in the towers, surely another hundred or so (2 flights) isn't cost them any more sleep. All the rest of it? Hollywood has a lot of fodder....
 

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Top US Lawyer And UNICEF Data Reveal Afghan Genocide





By Dr Gideon Polya
08 February, 2008
Countercurrents.org

Original URL http://www.countercurrents.org/polya080208.htm
The United States invaded Afghanistan in October 2001 with the ostensible excuse of the Afghan Government’s “protection” of the asserted Al Qaeda culprits of the 9/11 atrocity that killed 3,000 people. In the light of as many as 6.6 million post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Afghanistan as of February 2008 (see below), it is important to consider the major problems with this Bush-ite and neo-Bush-ite version of events as summarized below:
1. The US has a long history of “questionable” excuses for war e.g. the explosion of the Maine (the Spanish-American War), the sinking of the US arms-carrying Lusitania (entry into World War 1), the Pearl Harbor attack with now recognized US foreknowledge (entry into World War 2), North Koreans provoked into invading their own country (the Korean War), the fictitious Gulf of Tonkin incident (the Vietnam War; recently similarly but unsuccessfully attempted in the Persian Gulf as an “excuse” to attack Iran) and the extraordinary 1,000 post-9/11 lies told by Bush Administration figures, most notoriously about non-existent Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction (the Iraq War; post-invasion excess deaths now about 1.5-2 million).
2. The US supported and funded Al Qaeda and the Taliban from the late 1970s to the early 1990s associated with its anti-Soviet policies (see William Blum’s “Rogue State”).
3. Oil- and hegemony-related plans for the invasion of Afghanistan were all ready to go before 9/11.
4. No Afghans were involved in the 9/11 attack according to the “official 9/11 story” of the egregiously dishonest Bush Administration.
5. Even the right-wing, neo-Bush-ite Democrat Al Gore in his recent book “The Assault on Reason” (Chapter 6, National Insecurity, pp178-179) condemns the Bush Administration for effective passive complicity in the 9/11 atrocity i.e. they let it happen, just as a fore-warned US Administration permitted the Pearl Harbor attack to happen in 1941: “Their behaviour, in my opinion, was reckless, but the explanation for it lies in hubris, not in some bizarre conspiracy theory …These affirmative and repeated refusals to listen to clear warnings [prior to 9/11] constitute behaviour that goes beyond simple negligence. At a minimum, it represents a reckless disregard for the safety of the American people.”
6. However, further to point #5, the extremely eminent former 7-year President of Italy, law professor, senator for life and long-term Western intelligence intimate Francesco Cossiga recently (November 2007) told one of Italy's top newspapers that (a) the US CIA and Israeli Mossad committed the 9/11 outrage in order to further US and Zionist aims and that (b) major Western intelligence agencies are well aware of this (for details and documentation see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/18569/26/ ).
 

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[FONT=times new roman,times,serif]Swiss Scientists Doubt Bush Official Version[/FONT]
Two Swiss scientists, Professors Daniele Ganser and Albert A. Stahel of the University of Zurich, reported in the largest Swiss newspaper, "Blick", have seriously questioned the "official Bush version" of what happened on 9/11 (see: - "Je mehr wir forschen, desto mehr zweifeln wir".
Of course Scholars for 9/11 and many other rational, eminent and technically expert people also have profound scepticism about the Bush version. Indeed the "penny has dropped" for even the long-suffering American people aka "mushrooms" (kept in the dark and fed manure) – recent polls indicate that one third of Americans believe that the US Government was involved (e.g. see: "More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll".
Professor Ganser: "3,000 humans were sacrificed for strategic interests. The more we explore, the more we doubt the Bush version. It is conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. Bush has lied so much already! And we already know that the US government planned an operation in 1962 that was approved by the Pentagon that would have sacrificed innocent US citizens for the government's own interests …We only ask questions."
To quote Professors Ganser and Stahel on their 3 hypotheses: "There are three theories, which we should treat equally:
1. "Surprise theory" - Bin Laden and Al Qaeda implemented the attacks.
2. "Let it happen on purpose" - The US Government knew the Al Qaeda plans and did not react in order to legitimize a series of wars.
3. "Made it happen on purpose" - The attacks were actually planned and orchestrated by the Pentagon and/or US secret services."
How do these 3 hypotheses about the 9/11 atrocity stack up?
#1. A former top German Government Minister Von Buelow suggests US was involved in 9/11 (see: here) and a former Russian military and intelligence chief, former head of the Russian military General Ivashov suggests that Western interests were behind 9/11.
These highly-placed European experts rejected "the men in caves" hypothesis as utterly implausible because the 9/11 operation needed the resources of a major state intelligence operation operating within the US. The only real candidates are accordingly the CIA and Israeli Mossad.
#2. According to the New York Post quoting a 2007 poll, two thrids of Americans believe that the US Government was passively complicit in the 9/11 atrocity and that the Bush Government allowed 9/11 to happen (just as the US Government is now generally believed by most Japanese scholars to have known about the impending Pearl Harbor attack and deliberately allowed it to happen).
Even US Establishment figure Al Gore blames the Bush Administration for 9/11. Thus former Vice President Al Gore in his recent book "The Assault on Reason" (Chapter 6, National Insecurity, pp178-179), while dismissing the widely-held hypothesis of deliberate passive complicity of the Bush Administration in 9/11, condemns the Bush Administration for effective passive complicity in the 9/11 atrocity i.e. they let it happen, just as a fore-warned US Administration permitted the Pearl Harbor attack to happen in 1941:
"Their behaviour, in my opinion, was reckless, but the explanation for it lies in hubris, not in some bizarre conspiracy theory …These affirmative and repeated refusals to listen to clear warnings [prior to 9/11] constitute behaviour that goes beyond simple negligence. At a minimum, it represents a reckless disregard for the safety of the American people."
#3. Former 7-year president of Italy, law professor, senator for life, Western "Gladio" terrorist group intimate and Western intelligence intimate Francesco Cossigo, in an interview with one of Italy's top newspapers, Corriere della Sera, in November 2007, declared that the CIA and Israeli Mossad were responsible for 9/11; that they had done it to further US and Zionist interests; and that major Western intelligence agencies were aware of this (see MWC News).
Of course in relation to ALL three hypotheses, "Al Qaeda" and their Islamist Mujahadeen associates were funded, supported and backed by the US and its Saudi surrogates for a dozen years in the 1980s in Afghanistan and up to the middle 1990s in the Balkans (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda ). Indeed, given the enormous strategic and political benefits to the American Empire and Apartheid Israel from Muslim-origin non-state terrorism it is highly likely that such terrorists are still variously supported by US or Israeli state terrorists throughout the world. Thus the Gladio terrorist organization with which Francesco Cossiga was linked performed terrorist outrages for which "state enemies" such as Communists would be held responsible. Indeed in Philip Agee's "Inside the Company. CIA Diary" (Penguin, London, 1975) the author describes how his CIA colleagues ran a terrorist group in Ecuador in the 1970s who went around bombing Catholic Churches so that the Communists or Socialists would be blamed. Such state-sanctioned atrocities are clearly being conducted in a huge scale in Occupied Iraq (see "US, UK and Israel behind Iraq Mosque Bombing?" on MWC News).
On whom would you place greater weight? One of the most eminent Western European statesmen and former Italian president Francesco Cossiga? Top German and Russian intelligence intimates? The Scholars for 9/11 and other decent citizens attempting to address the 9/11 atrocity scientifically? Or the Bush Administration that told 935 lies about Iraq between 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq (as reported by conservative media).
In assessing the 3 hypotheses of Professors Ganser and Stahel one should also consider the "Means, Opportunity and Motive" – the intelligence services of the US and its surrogate Israel certainly had the technical Means; they had the Opportunity (through being there and through the well-documented and notoriously comprehensive "switching off" of US air and intelligence defences); and they had the Motive (the security of Israel as a violent, anti-Arab anti-Semitic, imperialist, colonialist , anti-peace, rogue state increased with the devastation and massive depopulation of Occupied Iraq in an ongoing Iraqi Genocide; Bush America expanded a huge US- or US-surrogate-occupied Empire stretching – with several gaps – from Occupied Somalia to Occupied Afghanistan and US-bombed Waziristan in Pakistan).
We are still awaiting a proper judicial investigation of who did 9/11 – with hypothesis #3 of direct US and Israeli involvement the most compelling on present evidence. While we still don't know for sure who murdered 3,000 innocent Americans on 9/11 we do know who is responsible for the carnage of the Bush War on Terror (in horrible reality a War on Arab, Muslim, Asian and non-European Women and Children) – in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories alone post-invasion excess deaths total 2 million and 3-7 million, respectively; post-invasion under-5 infant deaths total 0.6 million and 2.3 million, respectively; and refugees total 4.5 million and 4 million, respectively (see MWC News).
However the domestic cost in the complicit Western Murdochracies is measured in money (e.g. the $3.5 trillion accrual cost to the US of the War on Terror that has "bankrupted" the US according to 2001 Economics Nobel Laureate Professor Joseph Stiglitz); the human cost of domestic excess deaths due to warped administration priorities (e.g. 160,000 under-5 year old American infants have died avoidably because of Bush war priorities); and immense civil rights and human rights abuses (the US Patriot Act and related Nazi-style "anti-Terrorism" laws in other Western Murdochracies).
What can Americans, Australians, Canadians, Britishers and indeed the citizens of other complicit Western Murdochracies do about do about the racist Zionist and Bush-ite trashing of our wealth, our health, our liberties, our institutions and our very reputations?
Jewish-American investor, philanthropist, and Holocaust survivor George Soros has demanded the "de-Nazification" of Bush America (see: MWC News). However America and the other Western Murdochracies must also remove the lying, traitorous, racist, anti-Arab anti-Semitic Zionists from their current domination of Western political life with their obscenely false "terror hysteria" (see MWC News) just as weight of considered public opinion has removed other racist, Nazi-style fanatics such as the Nazis, neo-Nazis and the KKK from Western public life.
The likelihood that the Zionists and Bush administeration were actually responsible for the execution of the 9/11 atrocity (3,000 deaths) in addition to their clear involvement in its horrendous aftermath (up to 9 million post-invasion violent and non-violent excess deaths in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories, the devastation of Muslim countries from Occupied Somalia to Waziristan in Pakistan and the moral and financial bankruptcy of America) should give added urgency to the need for scrupulously human rights-observant, judicial cleansing of the Western democracies from the lying, racist and traitorous Zionist and Bush terrorists and mass murderers.
 
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[FONT=times new roman,times,serif]Swiss Scientists Doubt Bush Official Version
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Two Swiss scientists, Professors Daniele Ganser and Albert A. Stahel of the University of Zurich, reported in the largest Swiss newspaper, "Blick", have seriously questioned the "official Bush version" of what happened on 9/11 (see: - "Je mehr wir forschen, desto mehr zweifeln wir".
Of course Scholars for 9/11 and many other rational, eminent and technically expert people also have profound scepticism about the Bush version. Indeed the "penny has dropped" for even the long-suffering American people aka "mushrooms" (kept in the dark and fed manure) – recent polls indicate that one third of Americans believe that the US Government was involved (e.g. see: "More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll".
Professor Ganser: "3,000 humans were sacrificed for strategic interests. The more we explore, the more we doubt the Bush version. It is conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. Bush has lied so much already! And we already know that the US government planned an operation in 1962 that was approved by the Pentagon that would have sacrificed innocent US citizens for the government's own interests …We only ask questions."











To quote Professors Ganser and Stahel on their 3 hypotheses: "There are three theories, which we should treat equally:
1. "Surprise theory" - Bin Laden and Al Qaeda implemented the attacks.
2. "Let it happen on purpose" - The US Government knew the Al Qaeda plans and did not react in order to legitimize a series of wars.
3. "Made it happen on purpose" - The attacks were actually planned and orchestrated by the Pentagon and/or US secret services."











How do these 3 hypotheses about the 9/11 atrocity stack up?

#1. A former top German Government Minister Von Buelow suggests US was involved in 9/11 (see: here) and a former Russian military and intelligence chief, former head of the Russian military General Ivashov suggests that Western interests were behind 9/11.
These highly-placed European experts rejected "the men in caves" hypothesis as utterly implausible because the 9/11 operation needed the resources of a major state intelligence operation operating within the US. The only real candidates are accordingly the CIA and Israeli Mossad.
#2. According to the New York Post quoting a 2007 poll, two thrids of Americans believe that the US Government was passively complicit in the 9/11 atrocity and that the Bush Government allowed 9/11 to happen (just as the US Government is now generally believed by most Japanese scholars to have known about the impending Pearl Harbor attack and deliberately allowed it to happen).
Even US Establishment figure Al Gore blames the Bush Administration for 9/11. Thus former Vice President Al Gore in his recent book "The Assault on Reason" (Chapter 6, National Insecurity, pp178-179), while dismissing the widely-held hypothesis of deliberate passive complicity of the Bush Administration in 9/11, condemns the Bush Administration for effective passive complicity in the 9/11 atrocity i.e. they let it happen, just as a fore-warned US Administration permitted the Pearl Harbor attack to happen in 1941:
"Their behaviour, in my opinion, was reckless, but the explanation for it lies in hubris, not in some bizarre conspiracy theory …These affirmative and repeated refusals to listen to clear warnings [prior to 9/11] constitute behaviour that goes beyond simple negligence. At a minimum, it represents a reckless disregard for the safety of the American people."











#3. Former 7-year president of Italy, law professor, senator for life, Western "Gladio" terrorist group intimate and Western intelligence intimate Francesco Cossigo, in an interview with one of Italy's top newspapers, Corriere della Sera, in November 2007, declared that the CIA and Israeli Mossad were responsible for 9/11; that they had done it to further US and Zionist interests; and that major Western intelligence agencies were aware of this (see MWC News).

Of course in relation to ALL three hypotheses, "Al Qaeda" and their Islamist Mujahadeen associates were funded, supported and backed by the US and its Saudi surrogates for a dozen years in the 1980s in Afghanistan and up to the middle 1990s in the Balkans (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda ). Indeed, given the enormous strategic and political benefits to the American Empire and Apartheid Israel from Muslim-origin non-state terrorism it is highly likely that such terrorists are still variously supported by US or Israeli state terrorists throughout the world. Thus the Gladio terrorist organization with which Francesco Cossiga was linked performed terrorist outrages for which "state enemies" such as Communists would be held responsible. Indeed in Philip Agee's "Inside the Company. CIA Diary" (Penguin, London, 1975) the author describes how his CIA colleagues ran a terrorist group in Ecuador in the 1970s who went around bombing Catholic Churches so that the Communists or Socialists would be blamed. Such state-sanctioned atrocities are clearly being conducted in a huge scale in Occupied Iraq (see "US, UK and Israel behind Iraq Mosque Bombing?" on MWC News).
On whom would you place greater weight? One of the most eminent Western European statesmen and former Italian president Francesco Cossiga? Top German and Russian intelligence intimates? The Scholars for 9/11 and other decent citizens attempting to address the 9/11 atrocity scientifically? Or the Bush Administration that told 935 lies about Iraq between 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq (as reported by conservative media).
In assessing the 3 hypotheses of Professors Ganser and Stahel one should also consider the "Means, Opportunity and Motive" – the intelligence services of the US and its surrogate Israel certainly had the technical Means; they had the Opportunity (through being there and through the well-documented and notoriously comprehensive "switching off" of US air and intelligence defences); and they had the Motive (the security of Israel as a violent, anti-Arab anti-Semitic, imperialist, colonialist , anti-peace, rogue state increased with the devastation and massive depopulation of Occupied Iraq in an ongoing Iraqi Genocide; Bush America expanded a huge US- or US-surrogate-occupied Empire stretching – with several gaps – from Occupied Somalia to Occupied Afghanistan and US-bombed Waziristan in Pakistan).
We are still awaiting a proper judicial investigation of who did 9/11 – with hypothesis #3 of direct US and Israeli involvement the most compelling on present evidence. While we still don't know for sure who murdered 3,000 innocent Americans on 9/11 we do know who is responsible for the carnage of the Bush War on Terror (in horrible reality a War on Arab, Muslim, Asian and non-European Women and Children) – in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories alone post-invasion excess deaths total 2 million and 3-7 million, respectively; post-invasion under-5 infant deaths total 0.6 million and 2.3 million, respectively; and refugees total 4.5 million and 4 million, respectively (see MWC News).
However the domestic cost in the complicit Western Murdochracies is measured in money (e.g. the $3.5 trillion accrual cost to the US of the War on Terror that has "bankrupted" the US according to 2001 Economics Nobel Laureate Professor Joseph Stiglitz); the human cost of domestic excess deaths due to warped administration priorities (e.g. 160,000 under-5 year old American infants have died avoidably because of Bush war priorities); and immense civil rights and human rights abuses (the US Patriot Act and related Nazi-style "anti-Terrorism" laws in other Western Murdochracies).
What can Americans, Australians, Canadians, Britishers and indeed the citizens of other complicit Western Murdochracies do about do about the racist Zionist and Bush-ite trashing of our wealth, our health, our liberties, our institutions and our very reputations?
Jewish-American investor, philanthropist, and Holocaust survivor George Soros has demanded the "de-Nazification" of Bush America (see: MWC News). However America and the other Western Murdochracies must also remove the lying, traitorous, racist, anti-Arab anti-Semitic Zionists from their current domination of Western political life with their obscenely false "terror hysteria" (see MWC News) just as weight of considered public opinion has removed other racist, Nazi-style fanatics such as the Nazis, neo-Nazis and the KKK from Western public life.
The likelihood that the Zionists and Bush administeration were actually responsible for the execution of the 9/11 atrocity (3,000 deaths) in addition to their clear involvement in its horrendous aftermath (up to 9 million post-invasion violent and non-violent excess deaths in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories, the devastation of Muslim countries from Occupied Somalia to Waziristan in Pakistan and the moral and financial bankruptcy of America) should give added urgency to the need for scrupulously human rights-observant, judicial cleansing of the Western democracies from the lying, racist and traitorous Zionist and Bush terrorists and mass murderers.

In My Personal Humble Opinion / Without Prejudice / With All Due Respect

Believe nothing of what you read, half of what you hear and all of what you can see.

In other words, simply put: Don't be so gullible.
 

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The Israeli Military Aircraft Company Tied To 9-11

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October 25, 2007 - 08:46

Bearing in mind that the Scherffs/Bushes are German Ashke-Nazis masquerading as American Christians ( http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm ) and Larry Silverstein is an Ashke-Nazi counterfeit-Jew, along with the many neo-cons in control of the U.S. Government ( http://jahtruth.net/freedman.htm ) and CIA, the following fits perfectly:-
Christopher Bollyn: The Israeli Military Aircraft Company Tied To 9-11 (below in full)
The Israeli ICTS company also has an office in Luton, London Underground Railway has an Israeli company Verint Systems in charge of CCTV security and 7/7 in London has Mossad written all over it.

Christopher Bollyn: The Israeli Military Aircraft Company Tied To 9-11
A little-known and privately-held aircraft leasing company created by the Israeli military intelligence is connected to the Mossad-run airport security and passenger screening company at the center of the "false flag" terror network of 9-11.

SOLVING 9-11


I am not like those who claimed to be 9-11 researchers, but who now say they have "moved beyond 9/11." How can anyone abandon the pursuit of the truth about 9-11 before the crime has been solved?

Six years after the terrorist attacks in which some 3,000 innocent people died, not one victim's lawsuit has yet gone to trial. As a nation, Americans can not allow 9-11 to go unsolved.

How can we forget the hundreds of people who were roasted alive in the burning twin towers? How can we ignore the death and destruction that we, as a result, have wrongfully inflicted on the innocent people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Palestine?

Who can accept an unelected administration dragging our military from one illegal war to another in the utterly fraudulent "war on terror," which they have promised will last for generations?

If we, as Americans and citizens of the world, don't demand the truth of 9-11, who and what do we really stand for? Everything this administration has done for the past 6 years has been based on an unproven interpretation of the events of 9-11.

What does it mean to be a citizen of "the land of the free and the home of the brave" if we allow our minds and our nation to be so easily hijacked by a pack of lies construed by a foreign power that terrorizes our citizens and extorts our government officials?

During the past few months, I have redoubled my efforts to solve 9-11. As the cover-up becomes more obvious and the guilty parties reveal themselves, this is the time to pile on the pressure, not give up.

ZIONIST ZEITGEIST

I cannot abide mass murder, occupation, and genocidal wars of aggression. Nor can I accept the corruption of our values and destruction of our basic American rights to suit an artificially imposed "war on terror."

With the passage of time, it is now clear that 9-11 was carried out in order to kick-start the perverse Zionist Zeitgeist called the "war on terror" with its pre-planned wars of aggression and occupation.

In December 2001, veteran German intelligence professionals told me that 9-11 had been executed by a state-sponsored criminal network and had required years of planning.

Eckehardt Werthebach, the former president of Germany's domestic intelligence service, Verfassungsschutz, told me in 2001 that "the deathly precision" and "the magnitude of planning" of the 9-11 attacks would have required "years of planning."

Such a sophisticated operation, Werthebach said, would require the "fixed frame" of a state intelligence organization, something not found in a "loose group" like the one allegedly led by Mohammed Atta while he studied in Hamburg.

If Werthebach's analysis is correct, which I have every reason to believe it is, the official version is nothing but a pack of lies. This would mean that the members of the criminal network are still in the highest positions of power in the U.S., Israel, and other nations.

The members of this network are dedicated to preventing the evidence from being released because the evidence would expose the real perpetrators. This is the only logical reason why the 9-11 evidence has been confiscated, the investigation controlled, and the litigation and discovery processes obstructed.

At this point, it should be clear that 9-11 will never be solved by the federal government, the appointed investigators or law enforcement agencies, or the corrupt courts. These controlled agencies, like the Zionist-controlled media, are only interested in controlling the information and preventing the evidence from coming out.

This crime will only be solved by concerned and dedicated independent researchers.
 

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Why Ron Paul's Answer Terrifies Them Op_ed By MWC NEWS
[FONT=times new roman,times,serif]Why Ron Paul's Answer Terrifies Them[/FONT]
by Jacob G. Hornberger, guest columnist
In one short answer to a moderator's question in the South Carolina debate in which Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul suggested that U.S. foreign policy motivated the 9/11 terrorists, Paul produced an earthquake that is shaking the Republican establishment.
The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party proposed banning Paul from future debates. Besieged by adverse public reaction, however, he quickly backed down.
FoxNews commentator John Gibson and columnist Michelle Malkin somehow reached the warped conclusion that Paul was suggesting that U.S. officials had committed the 9/11 attacks. After bloggers pointed out the inherent contradiction between that claim and Paul's point that foreign terrorists motivated by U.S. foreign policy had committed the attacks, Malkin quickly issued a retraction.
Other members of the Republican establishment suggested that Paul was "blaming America" for the 9/11 attacks. That's because they think that the federal government is America. Actually, the federal government and the country are composed of two separate and distinct groups of people -- those within the federal government and those within the private sector, a point reflected in the Bill of Rights, which expressly protects the country from the federal government.
What's going on here? Why the enormous, almost panicky, overreaction to what is a rather simple point about U.S. foreign policy? Why the attempts to suppress, distort, and misrepresent? What are they so scared of?
The answer is simple: The Republican establishment knows that if the American people conclude that Ron Paul is right, the jig is up with respect to the big-government, pro-empire, interventionist foreign policy that Republicans (and many Democrats) have supported for many years.
The Republican establishment knows that if the American people conclude that Ron Paul is right, the jig is up with respect to the big-government, pro-empire, interventionist foreign policy that Republicans (and many Democrats) have supported for many years.

Paul's point is a straightforward one: U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East generated the anger that motivated the 9/11 terrorists. If he had had more time, Paul undoubtedly would have pointed out the U.S. policies in the Middle East that made people so angry: (1) the U.S. government's support of Saddam Hussein and the furnishing of biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction to him; (2) the more than 10 years of brutal sanctions against Iraq, which contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children; (3) UN Ambassador Madeleine Albright's infamous statement to Sixty Minutes that the deaths of half a million Iraqi children from the sanctions had been "worth it"; (4) the stationing of U.S. troops on Islamic holy lands; (5) the "no-fly zones," which were never authorized by either the UN or the U.S. Congress and which killed still more Iraqis; (6) and the long-time, unconditional financial and military aid provided the Israeli government.
By invading Iraq the U.S. government was engaging in the same course of interventionist conduct that had produced prior acts of terrorism against the United States (not only the 9/11 attacks but the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, the 1998 terrorist attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 2000 terrorist attack on the USS Cole). As Paul stated in the debate and as U.S. intelligence agencies confirm, the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which has killed and maimed countless more Iraqis, has been a dream-come-true for Osama bin Laden's recruiters.
The 9/11 terrorist attacks also generated the "war on terror," which in turn has given us ever-increasing budgets for the military-industrial complex, out-of-control federal spending that debauches the currency, omnipotent power to the CIA, an endless stream of color-coded fear-mongering, warrantless monitoring of telephone calls and emails, torture, kidnapping and rendition, secret overseas prison camps, indefinite detention, cancellation of habeas corpus, military tribunals, "enemy combatants," and ever-increasing infringements on civil liberty.
If the U.S. government's foreign policy of interventionism is, in fact, the root cause of terrorism against the United States, there is an obvious solution to the problem: End the U.S. government's role as international policeman, invader, intervener, interloper, provider, and sanctioner. Foreign terrorism against Americans would disappear along with the need for a "war on terror." Civil liberties that were suspended could be restored. A sense of balance and harmony could return to our lives.
Ending interventionism would mean that the era of big government in foreign affairs could be brought to an end. No wonder the Republican establishment is so terrified of Ron Paul's foreign-policy message.
 

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There is a huge difference between saying "American foreign policy inspired the terrorists on 9-11", which is, IMHO, perfectly reasonable and probably true..........and saying "9-11 was perpetrated by an American gov't conspiracy to provide cover for the US gov't to perpetrate a foreign policy agenda", which is, IMHO, the stuff of psychotic delusion because it is so easily disproven.

Ron Paul ain't in the race because he was outclassed by McCain.......
 

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There is a huge difference between saying "American foreign policy inspired the terrorists on 9-11", which is, IMHO, perfectly reasonable and probably true..........and saying "9-11 was perpetrated by an American gov't conspiracy to provide cover for the US gov't to perpetrate a foreign policy agenda", which is, IMHO, the stuff of psychotic delusion because it is so easily disproven.

Ron Paul ain't in the race because he was outclassed by McCain.......


Ron Paul ain't in the race because he was outclassed by McCain....

That's a shame as Ron Paul's the best candidate you got. he speaks the truth, and IMHO has only Americas interest at heart unlike this guy beneath

 

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That's a shame as Ron Paul's the best candidate you got. he speaks the truth, and IMHO has only Americas interest at heart unlike this guy beneath




Hey q,

FYI: ignorance is the lack of knowledge
------stupidity is the act of one who possesses knowledge but chooses not to use it
Sincere regards,
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