why steven harper will make a good prime minister

[no1important]

RE: why steven harper wil

The part of commercial that is really funny is when they accuse Liberals of buying NDP for 4.6 million.

That there shows me. he does not like too many social programs.

With the new polls out todat 35% for libs nationally and 45% in Ontario and Harper is only 30% in Ontario, so I would wager Harper will not even get a miniority.

 

[DasFX]

Re: RE: why steven harper wil

The part of commercial that is really funny is when they accuse Liberals of buying NDP for 4.6 million.

That there shows me. he does not like too many social programs.

With the new polls out todat 35% for libs nationally and 45% in Ontario and Harper is only 30% in Ontario, so I would wager Harper will not even get a miniority.

The defection of Ms. Stronach has killed the Conservatives in Ontario and we all know that without Ontario, you cannot form the government in Canada.

Personally, of all the past leaders and possible leader of Reform, Canadian Alliance and Conservatives, I think Stephen Harper is the worst. I thought Stockwell Day was far better; at least he had some life and spunk! Ralph Klein is good because he has a personality; he gets passionate and involved. Belinda Stronach also would have been a better choice for leader and so too of Peter McKay. McKay just looks like a nice guy, he seems reasonable and open to compromise. He may be too quiet or reserved, but at least he isn't creepy like Harper. Bernard Lord would also be a much better candidate.

Stephen Harper has to go, he is just wrong. He just lacks that X-Factor.

 

[Reverend Blair]

The part of commercial that is really funny is when they accuse Liberals of buying NDP for 4.6 million.

That there shows me. he does not like too many social programs.

The really funny thing about that is that the Liberals stole their campaign promises for those things from the NDP during the last election. The original budget; the one Harper rushed out of the House to praise before deciding to abstain from voting for it, then saying he would vote against it, then deciding...way too late...to vote for it but to vote against the other budget; was full of goodies for the Conservatives, like corporate tax cuts that weren't a part of the Liberal platform.

Now that the NDP hold some sway, they are forcing the Liberals to stick to the campaign promises that the Liberals stole from the NDP platform. The Conservatives insist that is somehow buying off the NDP. No it isn't, it's being held to the campaign promises that the Liberals have a mandate for.

 

[no1important]

RE: why steven harper wil

It was 4.6 billion not million. my mistake.

I was trying to find a link where you could go to listen, but no such luck.

 

[no1important]

RE: why steven harper wil

I see Liberals won by election yesterday in Labrador. I know it was a "safe" liberal riding. I wonder what Harper thinks?

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: why steven harper wil

That wasn't considered a completely safe riding though. That's why they had all of those high-profile visits from both sides.

Everybody thought that the nearly closed military base had made the riding open for the taking. Interesting how the Liberals won it handily anyway.

 

[Colin]

Ok, I'll take a whirl at this being on the conservative side, but I don't want to read through the 12 pages of posts to get an idea of the debate. So if someone who has been posting the whole time could give me a brief run down that would be awsome.

Thanks,
Colin

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

A brief rundown? Stephen Harper wouldn't make a good PM at all because most of his policies are not supported by the majority of Canadians, too many people do not trust him, and he has a funny haircut.

 

[dave s]

Re: RE: why steven harper wil

A brief rundown? Stephen Harper wouldn't make a good PM at all because most of his policies are not supported by the majority of Canadians, too many people do not trust him, and he has a funny haircut.

"Majority of Canadians" does that mean you ? did you look at the polls, nobody has the majority of Canadians.

And the hair comment, martin has none, same goes for layton. I’d rather be in Harpers shoes then either of the other 2.

 

[Reverend Blair]

"Majority of Canadians" does that mean you ? did you look at the polls, nobody has the majority of Canadians.

Most Canadians do not support Harper's policies. Polls show that consistently. Don't my word for it, go look. Keep in mind that I am speaking of policies, not parties or people.

And the hair comment, martin has none, same goes for layton. I’d rather be in Harpers shoes then either of the other 2.

Harper has hair in his shoes too?

 

[Jay]

"Harper has hair in his shoes too?"


I thought all good Canadians did...

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

I always do...dog hair, cat hair...it's crazy.

 

[Jay]

:lol:

 

[dave s]

"Majority of Canadians" does that mean you ? did you look at the polls, nobody has the majority of Canadians.

Most Canadians do not support Harper's policies. Polls show that consistently. Don't my word for it, go look. Keep in mind that I am speaking of policies, not parties or people.

And the hair comment, martin has none, same goes for layton. I’d rather be in Harpers shoes then either of the other 2.

Harper has hair in his shoes too?

That’s a bad analogy; it’s the polls of who vote for whom, which in turn that makes up the WHOLE package.

So your statement has no merit. When we vote, we vote for the party that means everything and nobody has the Majority of Canadians in their corral.

This is a misleading way of saying your right and I’m sure your smart enough to know better.

Kinda childish answer to the hair comment as well.

 

[Reverend Blair]

That’s a bad analogy; it’s the polls of who vote for whom, which in turn that makes up the WHOLE package.

Well, Harper has been falling in the polls as people learn more and more about him. The policies are the most likely reason, since people don't support them.

So your statement has no merit. When we vote, we vote for the party that means everything and nobody has the Majority of Canadians in their corral.

The majority of Canadians do vote for left-leaning platforms though, since the Liberals run from the left and govern from the right. In other words, the majority of Canadians are voting against the policies of Stephen Harper. Guess my statement is back to having merit.

This is a misleading way of saying your right and I’m sure your smart enough to know better.

There is nothing misleading about it. Harper is the only one, in his proposed policies, proposing right-of-centre social policy. He is the only one openly proposing more integration with the US. He is the only one putting tax cuts for the rich ahead of programs for the majority of Canadians. People don't like that, so they vote for somebody else.

 

[dave s]

Your wrong and you know it

The next time you use the term “Majority of Canadians”

You better make sure that the polls say so, your rhetoric is BS. You may be able pull this off with some but not with me.

DATE LIB CON NDP BQ GRN OTH POLLSTER
06/20/2005 34 29 16 12 6 - Ipsos-Reid
06/11/2005 34 26 19 13 9 - Strategic Counsel


So your statement has no merit. When we vote, we vote for the party that means everything and nobody has the Majority of Canadians in their corral.

And

This is a misleading way of saying your right and I’m sure your smart enough to know better.

And for sure

This is a misleading way of saying your right and I’m sure I’m smart enough to know better.

 

[mrmom2]

Ipsos Reid Poll of BC
Harper 38 %down 14points
Lawton 63%
Martin 53%
Harper is burnt toast in BC :lol:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

I'm not wrong though...you keep insisting on that and refusing to consider why people vote for the parties that they do. In the end it comes down to policies...what gets proposed during elections.

Harper and the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives have consistently proposed policies that go against what Canadians say they want. Even when does flip-flop and try to kow-tow to policy polls, nobody believes him. How he handled the abortion thing is a perfect example of why...he made sure to leave the back door open.

In short, it your analysis (or lack thereof) that has no merit.

 

[Jay]

Canadian's don't like the Conservatives, and they sure don't like the NDP. Were going to see a long string of Liberal governments, I guess.

 

[mrmom2]

BC sure seems to like the NDP look at Lawton's numbers Jay 8O I guess that doesn't mean much though our vote counts for nothing :wink: