why steven harper will make a good prime minister

[Cathou]

I understand, forgive my French if I make a mistake (I only took two years of it and that was a very long time ago)

Je vous espère toute découverte que vous cherchez

I hope i said that correctly

it's almost that, but it's a valuable effort and i get the idea

 

[DasFX]

In my opinion, Steven Harper has lost the election already.

Since Paul Martin's speech, I've heard Harper say how he was going to spend his week off talking to Canadians and gauge their appetite for an election.

So what does he do? Halfway through the week, he declares he is going to "put this government out of its misery" despite numerous calls to wait until the Gomrey commission concludes and reports.

This guy doesn't know how to play the game and that's what politics is. Despite what Westerners think and feel, the key to election victory in Canada is Ontario and Quebec. Now Quebec is basically locked up by the BQ, so you would think he would play to Ontario wants and desires. Instead, he has unilaterally decreed that he, with this alliance with the separatist party, will bring down the government this spring and force an election whether Canadians want it or not.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

Part of Harper's problem is that he never talks to a non-partisan crowd. He lives in a neo-conservative bubble.

 

[DasFX]

Re: RE: why steven harper wil

Part of Harper's problem is that he never talks to a non-partisan crowd. He lives in a neo-conservative bubble.

Well I won't fault Harper for doing that, rarely do I see politicians making key speaches in hostile territory.

Just a question, what is neo-con? Define what you mean by this term.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

Loosely, it is one who follows the political theories of Leo Strauss...a de facto oligarchy that uses misplaced and over-stated nationalism and religious belief to impose their values and beliefs on society at large.

In modern terms, it is one who believes in corporate influence dominating the government agenda to the detriment of the population. It is capitalism run rampant with only the twisted morality of radical right-wing Christianity to inform it.

I don't just mean that he won't make key speeches in hostile territory. All indications are that he will not take advice or listen to opinion from outside of his inner circle.

 

[Wetcoast40]

what the hell are you talking about it's reverned that is crying because i don't agree with any of his oppinions not me. anyways this forum is for expressing my oppinion and i don't honestly give a f*** if you don't agree with my age just know that im in to pokitics as you are and have my own oppinions about things that you may not agree with and likwise with you.

This ought to frighten the sh** out of anyone with a higher than room temperature IQ. Tell me Rev, is this guy your token Yahoo? We have got to work on his spelling in order to get the full value from his incoherent rants.

 

[Wetcoast40]

Sorry, Rev. I should have read a little further and noticed that you had already chosen to ignore him.
Good plan!
Coaster

 

[no1important]

RE: why steven harper wil

Interesting Story From Reuters about Conservatives plans.

Corperate taxes are too high he says and he wants to cuddle right up to Bushie.

 

[Andygal]

Stephen Harper doesn't care about the public. He cares only about power.

He is currently unermining the workings of Parliment, preventing anything useful from getting done. And why? Because he wants the Liberals out of office now, because he hopes that people will vote for him just to keep the Liberals from power again.

Most Canadians want to wait until the Gomery inquiry has finished, but Stephen Harper doesn't care. He cares only for his own gain.

If he is behaving like this, how will he behave if he ever gets into power?

I sincerely hope that that man never gets any kind of power, i sincerely hope that he is ousted as leader of the Conservative Party and replaced with a more moderate leader who will at least care something for the wants and needs of the Canadian people, rather then their own power-lust.

If Stephen Harper ever becomes PM, I fear for what will happen to our country.

I'm from BC, but I depise Stephen Harper and his right-wing fanatical cronies from the Alliance.

 

[The Gunslinger]

"In modern terms, it is one who believes in corporate influence dominating the government agenda to the detriment of the population. It is capitalism run rampant with only the twisted morality of radical right-wing Christianity to inform it. "

I highly doubt that either Thatcher or Reagan would appreciate that statement. A better explanation of a "neo-con" (in my opinion anyways) is someone who tried to back from the Keynesian economic policy from the end of WW2- early to mid '80's. Thatcher didn't use much religion in her term, and Reagan reluctantly used the religios right of the US.

"Stephen Harper doesn't care about the public. He cares only about power.
He is currently unermining the workings of Parliment, preventing anything useful from getting done."

That first statement I find to be false altogether. As to the second, how has he caused parliament to quit functioning? Wasn't it Martin who cancelled the oppostion days? Wasn't it Martin who refused to concede defeat after losing numerous motions in parliament? Harper's boycotting is a reasonable tactic.

"I'm from BC, but I depise Stephen Harper and his right-wing fanatical cronies from the Alliance."

Many of these "right-wing fanatical cronies from the Alliance" are ex-conservatives. Every party has a hardcore radical element to it, even the liberals and NDP.

 

[no1important]

RE: why steven harper wil

"Stephen Harper doesn't care about the public. He cares only about power.
He is currently unermining the workings of Parliment, preventing anything useful from getting done."

Well 58% of Canadians feel this way. The number climbs to 61% in BC.

Harper is a power hungry madman, Canadians see that. Thats why he will never become prime minister. If he some how flukes out and gets a miniority it won't last a year.

Who wants a PM that acts all childish all the time like Harper? He does not want the House of Commons to work, he is doing everything he can to undermine it. (Kinda like what his buddy "W" is doing with UN).

He is a A1 nut job and delusional to say the least.

 

[Reverend Blair]

"In modern terms, it is one who believes in corporate influence dominating the government agenda to the detriment of the population. It is capitalism run rampant with only the twisted morality of radical right-wing Christianity to inform it. "

I highly doubt that either Thatcher or Reagan would appreciate that statement. A better explanation of a "neo-con" (in my opinion anyways) is someone who tried to back from the Keynesian economic policy from the end of WW2- early to mid '80's. Thatcher didn't use much religion in her term, and Reagan reluctantly used the religios right of the US.

You need to learn a lot more about neo-conservatism, the man who came up with the original theories, and the people who follow those theories and are presently in positions of power.

Tom Flannagan, the man behind Stephen Harper is an adherent to the tenets of neo-conservatism as well as having a deep hatred of natives. The so-called "Calgary School" exists mostly as a way to further neo-conservatism in Canada. Harper is a proud member of the Calgary School.

That first statement I find to be false altogether. As to the second, how has he caused parliament to quit functioning?

He's shut down the house two days in a row even though it is clear when he will get his confidence vote.

Wasn't it Martin who cancelled the oppostion days?

He didn't cancel them, he postponed them. That is the right of the ruling party.

Wasn't it Martin who refused to concede defeat after losing numerous motions in parliament?

Those weren't confidence votes. Worse yet, if they were the Veterans' Charter that all parties agreed to pass would have been effectively scuttled. Harper went back on his word to help our veterans because of his power-hungry antics. The man cannot be trusted. He is a liar and his word is worth nothing.

Harper's boycotting is a reasonable tactic.

Harper's childish political grandstanding is disgusting . He isn't capable (or worthy) of leading a boy scout troop, mevermind a country.

Many of these "right-wing fanatical cronies from the Alliance" are ex-conservatives.

Yeah, and we all remember what happened the last time they were in power. The most corrupt government in Canadian history.

Every party has a hardcore radical element to it, even the liberals and NDP.

There hasn't been a party so full of radicals in Canada since nazi-ism was in style during the 1930's.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Is this the Fun and Jokes section?

:dontknow:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

Good Link Vanni.

I have a question for all you Conservatives out there.

How come Harper and his Reformatories are so upset because one or two of their own may not be able to make the vote on Thursday?

How come they didn't care about that when two Liberals and one independent who said he would vote with the Liberals on procedural matters weren't there when they attempted to pass off sending a bill back to committee as a confidence vote?

How come the Conservatives have steadfastly refused to "twin" members and have people abstain if there are missing members on the other side of the house?

How come, when the Conservatives might be at a disadvantage because of illness it's a big deal, but when another party has the same problem, it's time to launch an attack.

Ed Broadbent offered to twin himself with Stinson on Thursday's vote. Since Stinson won't be there to vote, Ed will stay in his chair and abstain from the budget vote. It's a fair and noble thing to do. More than that, it shows real class.

I can guarantee you that the Conservatives would not have done the same. They care about nothing but power. They have no class.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: why steven harper wil

Ed Broadbent offered to twin himself with Stinson on Thursday's vote. Since Stinson won't be there to vote, Ed will stay in his chair and abstain from the budget vote. It's a fair and noble thing to do. More than that, it shows real class.

Yeah...I saw that...almost moved me to tears, it did...almost...

Ed's a great parliamentarian...he should have had a chance to be PM dammit...

 

[Jo Canadian]

-Nice Link-

It's amazing that a simple image can tell 1000 words.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

I'm not seeing any Conservatives responding to me question. Are they waiting for the talking points memo?

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: why steven harper wil

I'm not seeing any Conservatives responding to me question. Are they waiting for the talking points memo?

I guess they don't want to have to admit what's obvious to the rest of Canada, that Harper is a power-hungry pogue that has no really vision for the future of our great nation...except perhaps to sell it off piece-meal that is...

 

[Reverend Blair]

Harper is a power-hungry pogue

I think a certain celtic punk band might take exception to having that classless piece garbage mentioned in the same sentence as them. :wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: why steven harper wil

Still no response from the radical right....