Why leaving Canada makes sense for Alberta, and U.S. would likely welcome a new state

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big in comparison to other states with the exception of Alaska. I always hated driving through Texas because it takes forever. Never been to Canada.

It takes two and a half regular, long days to drive across Ontario Cornwall to Kenora (not straight through, hopped up on Amphetamines). It is just shy of twice the size of Texas. Quebec is considerably bigger.
 
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Did you consider that you would pay less tax as an Ontario resident?

Edit: For now!

Yeah but because I own property, and a business in Alberta, the Province of Alberta states I'm still resident..

We shall see what happens at tax time.

What is a tounge? A different kind of lawn furniture than a lounge?

When you type on a iPhone and you need glasses, it amazes me that I'm not typing Chinese.
 
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The US is not going to accept a new state if the result is an enemy over the rest of the Canada/US border. That would be the result of biting off a piece of Canada, like that. If the Americans want to be seen as a rougue nation by the rest of the planet, annexing part of a peaceful neighbour like Canada ought to do it. Anyway, the traitors that want to sell their country out like that should be arrested well in advance of anything like that happening. I believe that they can still be executed if we are under the military law that will inevitably follow succession.
 

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The US is not going to accept a new state if the result is an enemy over the rest of the Canada/US border. That would be the result of biting off a piece of Canada, like that. If the Americans want to be seen as a rougue nation by the rest of the planet, annexing part of a peaceful neighbour like Canada ought to do it. Anyway, the traitors that want to sell their country out like that should be arrested well in advance of anything like that happening. I believe that they can still be executed if we are under the military law that will inevitably follow succession.

SO when do we start tossing frenchies in jail? That would include trudowe too.
 

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Yeah but because I own property, and a business in Alberta, the Province of Alberta states I'm still resident..

We shall see what happens at tax time.



When you type on a iPhone and you need glasses, it amazes me that I'm not typing Chinese.
A normal person would get the glasses so you can then read properly also.
You are a resident in whatever Province you are in on Dec.31. I assume that is why that question is on the tax form.
 

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Peter Zeihan says Alberta would be better off as 51st U.S. state



Western separatism is an old theme in Alberta, but Peter Zeihan is bringing it back into the spotlight.

Zeihan's new book is mostly about the United States and its place in the world, but he's dedicated an entire chapter to Alberta.

''Alberta as a U.S. state would not simply be rich — the richest in the Union, in fact — but would have a vibrantly well-financed and diverse economy.'


- Peter Zeihan, The Accidental Superpower

It's there that he lays out the economic case for why Wild Rose Country should bid farewell to Confederation and join the United States.

"Alberta as a U.S. state would not simply be rich — the richest in the Union, in fact — but would have a vibrantly well-financed and diverse economy that would put its former (and a lot of its new-found) countrymen to shame," writes the American author in The Accidental Superpower.

He argues that demographics are another reason why Alberta should jump ship."Alberta produces more energy than the rest of Canada put together, their primary export market is the United States and a merger would eliminate everything from tax liabilities to foreign currency fluctuations," said Zeihan.

Zeihan says the province is a lot younger than the rest of Canada and as a wave of baby boomers starts to retire, the rest of the country will become increasingly dependent on Alberta.

"As the price of that retiree bulge rises, and it's already pushing the Canadian budget to the limit, there is really only one place that Canadians can tax to fund their retiree system that they have promised their citizens. And that is Alberta," said Zeihan.

Zeihan says if Alberta ever did choose to go out on its own, he suspects Canada's second richest province — Saskatchewan — would follow.

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The rest of Canada would have fukk all to say about it.. and I'm starting to like the idea, the more I hear talk about it from all corners.
 

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SO when do we start tossing frenchies in jail? That would include trudowe too.

We have done it in the past. We have even "transported" French Canadian traitors to Australia in the past ... if any of you know any Canadian history. I'm not against arresting traitors whether they live in Quebec or Alberta. High Treason, selling out your country to a foreign power, is a serious crime that is up there with murder.
 

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We have done it in the past. We have even "transported" French Canadian traitors to Australia in the past ... if any of you know any Canadian history. I'm not against arresting traitors whether they live in Quebec or Alberta. High Treason, selling out your country to a foreign power, is a serious crime that is up there with murder.

It's called democracy.. a free vote of the people of that region.

If Quebec want's to split and join France.. go riddance.. but the French President François Hollande said, he doesn't want Quebec.
 

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You also need the vote of the other Provinces, there is little difference in leaving and being kicked out.
 

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It's called democracy.. a free vote of the people of that region.

If Quebec want's to split and join France.. go riddance.. but the French President François Hollande said, he doesn't want Quebec.

Yup. Just like when Croatia voted to leave Yugoslavia, the CSA voted democratically to leave the United States, ...
 

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You also need the vote of the other Provinces, there is little difference in leaving and being kicked out.



Yup. Just like when Croatia voted to leave Yugoslavia, the CSA voted democratically to leave the United States, ...

Nope, I was thinking more like the Scottish Independence Vote ;)

It's the right of the people to vote and leave if they want to..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA1yCIHMJwY

Justin Trudeau Canada belongs to Quebec
 

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There is no guarantee that a Scottish "yes" vote would be binding, legal under UK law or even tolerated by a nation that has a long history of fighting back. The whole thing was based on the same thin hope that the Quebec separatists assume, that there opposite will not fight back. That likely isn't so in either case. Just because Canada has not yet had a civil war dies not put it outside the realm of possibility. In the history of our country, some two million Canadians have donned uniforms to fight for their country. It is a latent potential still, not to be ignored. I have served with other Canadians ready to fight for our country and we were certainly not alone.
 

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There is no guarantee that a Scottish "yes" vote would be binding, legal under UK law or even tolerated by a nation that has a long history of fighting back. The whole thing was based on the same thin hope that the Quebec separatists assume, that there opposite will not fight back.that lily isn't so in either case. Just because Canada has not yet had a civil war dies not put it outside the realm of possibility. In the history o cnr, some two million Canadians have donned ubifrms to fight for their country. It is a latent potential still, not to be ignored. I have served with other Canadians ready to fight for our country and we were certainly not some.

Yawn.. big talker for a guy who doesn't like guns.. :lol:
 

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Tell you what, Boomper, why not commission some polling company to do a survey and ask Albertans if they want to separate? You own a fleet of semis n stuff, right? You can afford a survey, surely. Here you go: Ipsos Reid Alberta Online Omnibus | Products & Tools | Ipsos North America
I would bet it would show a reasonable basis for AB staying in Canada.

A while back I think MacLeans or maybe the Western Standard or some magazine did a survey and the idea of separation got a whole quarter of Albertans to consider separation. Maybe if you could do it at night, the other 75% would still be sleeping and you all could pick the province up and tote it south then. :roll: