Why isn't Obama making any inspiring speeches?

Francis2004

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So what inspiring speech is he supposed to make ?

What difference would it make if McCain was in ? What wisdom would he be preaching or would he just be as quiet as anyone working on trying to resolve the issues ahead of him ?

Is there anything new that happened since the election that I am not aware of.. Has the economy radically changed, the environment gotten much better or all wars ended ?

From what I understand people now want "Action" not just words from Obama and all those speeches. Give him some time.. He has already announced the closing of Guantanamo Bay, When the troops will be out of Iraq and is trying to move as fast as possible on the Economic package..

Perhaps he should just leave all that aside and really prove Rush right by just preaching day in and day out without action.. Yup makes sense..
 

JLM

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Because he is very busy doing insead of talking, time for talking is over.

His talking will be that of informing the public of actions they are taking, doesn't
have to promise any more, has the support of the majority of the people to go
ahead and 'do things', and the total failure of the previous government has made
that task next to 'impossible', but they have to dig in and 'do'.

Of course you're right Talloola, Trudeau and Mulroney were VERY GOOD TALKERS.
 

Tyr

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So, when was the last time a Canadian majority gov't (like Obama has, Democrat majorities in both houses) was hoofed out on a whim?

Here's a hint.....Canadian PMs with majorities aren't. They can literally do whatsoever they please. Canada is the LEAST democratic of the democratic nations. That is reality.

Unlike in the USA.....because party discipline in the USA is.......elusive, to say the least. The President simply has no way to reward or punish Representatives or Senators....thus he can be ignored...and they can even override him at will.

In Canada, especially since that scumball Trudeau, MPs are "nobodies"....you might as well have a bunch of the PM's thumb puppets in there.

you might as well have a bunch of the PM's thumb puppets in there.

We do and they are
 

ironsides

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That seems to be a big problem now. Obama gives a speech, people panic and drive down the stock market. Maybe there is no nice way to put it, but doom and gloom all the time will not fix the economy. It wouldn't matter if McCain won or not. As a leader Obama should offer some hope, look at who he appointed to be United States Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner. A man who was part of the problem in the first place who also said he knew nothing about what was happening. A man who was the ninth president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. A Treasury Secretary who seems to have no staff and is giving the impression that he alone with media help is running thing. We need a little positive news. Stop worrying about what Rush says, he is just a performer, actor if you want.
 

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Before the US election, Obama made plenty of inspiring speeches. Now he makes none. He must be saving up for some future event. Seems a little suspicious to me right now. Suddenly he seems to have done 180 degree turn, so I think that is odd.


You are quite mistaken - his SOTU speech was well received as were his public calls for health care reform.

Even the Fox network has conceded that he is very popular and that his words have had a positive impact in society.
 

ironsides

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Of course anything on health care reform will bring cheers. But you cannot have a good health care system without a strong economy. In order for this health care system to work, people need to be employed. You mentioned FOX news, you could have said CBS, NBC etc. it doesn't really matter. Obama is popular, but mainly with the poor. They do not run this country or have the money to see some of these programs happen. Obama is on probation, I'm willing to give him a chance, but he has to stop appointing people who were partially responsible for getting us into it to get us out. He promised change and what did we get the Clinton Administration. As for big business, both parties want it, only highlighting different points. I want less goverment involved in my personal life. President Obama has to get a little more upbeat, even I know things will work out eventually. 8.2 % need to hear a little bit more positive talks from our leader.
 

ironsides

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Is this inspiring?
"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is trying to stabilize the nation's banking industry, implement a housing rescue plan and prop up a plunging stock market – all with about 18 vacant senior positions, virtually the entire upper echelon of his department.
The staff is so faceless that lobbyists have begun trading jokes about a "ghost" bureaucracy, given the many empty picture frames hanging on the department's walls."

Not a speech, nothing
 

JLM

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Of course anything on health care reform will bring cheers. But you cannot have a good health care system without a strong economy. In order for this health care system to work, people need to be employed. You mentioned FOX news, you could have said CBS, NBC etc. it doesn't really matter. Obama is popular, but mainly with the poor. They do not run this country or have the money to see some of these programs happen. Obama is on probation, I'm willing to give him a chance, but he has to stop appointing people who were partially responsible for getting us into it to get us out. He promised change and what did we get the Clinton Administration. As for big business, both parties want it, only highlighting different points. I want less goverment involved in my personal life. President Obama has to get a little more upbeat, even I know things will work out eventually. 8.2 % need to hear a little bit more positive talks from our leader.

Absolutely right Ironsides, the more people employed the healthier society is in more ways than one. I think full employment is possible, if people were to be less greedy. How many people across the country are earning $40 an hour or more? If all those were cut back to $20-$25 an hour (which is a liveable wage), think how many more could be employed.
 

ironsides

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"I think full employment is possible, if people were to be less greedy. How many people across the country are earning $40 an hour or more? If all those were cut back to $20-$25 an hour (which is a livable wage), think how many more could be employed."


Barely a livable wage and very dependent on where you live. In places like Florida, Tennessee etc., maybe but then there is Calif. NY, in fact the whole North East as well as West Coast. Just cannot be done. We just have grown into a very expensive consumer oriented country. It will take many years and a few Administrations to change it if they even could.

For example: In Florida which used to be relitively inexpensive 15 years ago. $20-$25 would have worked, but today just to get barely by raising 2 children you will need atleast $35 per hour. That is a no frills wage. In places like NY you will need close to $50 per hour. Property taxes are the big killer. In NY, they pay for a 3 bedroom home $15,000 a year down here in Florida for small 3 bedroom home 1/2 the they pay $6,000. Taxes are only one expense.
 
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ironsides

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I almost forgot, in the U.S. population there are poor who claim they cannot make any money or enough money, but when offered jobs, they prefer to stay on and within the welfare system, generations of them, breeding like guppies. Our welfare system supports a universal healthcare system that only people on welfare can use. Congressmen/women partake of that plan also for life. So, yes we have "Universal Healthcare" but the majority are ineligible though thru taxes they pay for it.
 

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"dictator like we do in Canada"

with the suspension of Parliment Harper became a de facto "dictator"

Well, I wouldn't go quite that far, although I thought the G-G mishandled it: IMHO she should have refused, and either given the coalition a chance, or called a new election. The last option being prefereable.

If we'd had an election, we'd have a large CPC majority at the moment.......the "coalition" did not go down well with Canadians.

I'm not happy with Harper at the moment........

I think he screwed up royally....but that is not a subject for this thread....
 

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Before the US election, Obama made plenty of inspiring speeches. Now he makes none. He must be saving up for some future event. Seems a little suspicious to me right now. Suddenly he seems to have done 180 degree turn, so I think that is odd.

He's probably a bit busy right now trying to prevent his country from sliding further into recession than it already is.
 

Tyr

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Well, I wouldn't go quite that far, although I thought the G-G mishandled it: IMHO she should have refused, and either given the coalition a chance, or called a new election. The last option being prefereable.

If we'd had an election, we'd have a large CPC majority at the moment.......the "coalition" did not go down well with Canadians.

I'm not happy with Harper at the moment........

I think he screwed up royally....but that is not a subject for this thread....

If we'd had an election, we'd have a large CPC majority at the moment

If we had an election today. We'd have a Liberal minority gov't

As for Obama's inspiring speech "clock".

I imagine he feels a 'tad like the Chief of Police in Vancouver right now. He really doesn't relish getting up in the morning and hearing how things are getting worse by the hr/day and there is nothing he can do to stop the train from de-railing