What justification? I'm supposed to pick up a gun against my own govenrment just because you say so?
Laughable - utterly pathetic!
Laughable - utterly pathetic!
Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?
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By the way, since you endorse Bush's war in order to stop international bullies, why dont you pick up a gun and invade Russia?
Because, thats not what I said.
I said its not feasible to invade Russia.
YOU claimed that therefore that is an abandonment of principles if you don't do something just because its not feasible.
YOU claim that the current government of the USA is against your principles yet YOU don't attempt to depose them, simpley because its not feasible.
You are breaking your own "principles".
I never said I thought I should do the unfeasible on "principle", thats your stupidity.
I said its not feasible to invade Russia.
YOU claimed that therefore that is an abandonment of principles if you don't do something just because its not feasible.
YOU claim that the current government of the USA is against your principles yet YOU don't attempt to depose them, simpley because its not feasible.
You are breaking your own "principles".
I never said I thought I should do the unfeasible on "principle", thats your stupidity.
"No one knows exactly how the course of the war on terror will proceed, where it will take the nation, or what sacrifices lie ahead, Bush told the group. "But we do know, however, that the defense of freedom is worth our sacrifice," he said"
Bush said any and every sacrifice is necessary to stop terrorism. Since his supporters on this forum have been so adamantly supportive of every thing he has said, and they are so "principled" in their minds, now it's their turn to back it up with action by stopping the invading Russians.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=17947
Bush said any and every sacrifice is necessary to stop terrorism. Since his supporters on this forum have been so adamantly supportive of every thing he has said, and they are so "principled" in their minds, now it's their turn to back it up with action by stopping the invading Russians.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=17947
Back that statement up, you have seemed quite annoyed about "Right wingers" making claims they can't back up.
Back this claim of yours up. I made a statement, supported it, you are refuting it, cmon. Lets see something to back that up.
You said something, I held you up to it, and you then pouted, stomped your feet and just called it "crap". Thats not a rebuttal.
the US only pulled out of vietnam once they'd achieved their objectives, Iraq will be the same 
BTW I got a bridge for sale if anyone is interested
BTW I got a bridge for sale if anyone is interested
Massive civil war=disinformation
Largest nuclear stockpile=disinformation
Ally=disinformation
A perfect example of right wing propaganda. In addition to being a poorly constructed sentence.
Today, 01:16 PM
I thought I'd cut and paste a little bit, something I rarely do.:lol:
The Eurasian Corridor: Pipeline Geopolitics and the New Cold War
By Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, August 22, 2008
The ongoing crisis in the Caucasus is intimately related to the control over energy pipeline and transportation corridors.
There is evidence that the Georgian attack on South Ossetia on August 7 was carefully planned. High level consultations were held with US and NATO officials in the months preceding the attacks.
The attacks on South Ossetia were carried out one week after the completion of extensive US - Georgia war games (July 15-31st, 200. They were also preceded by high level Summit meetings held under the auspices GUAM, a US-NATO sponsored regional military alliance.
War in Georgia Time Line
In early July 2008, a regional summit was held in the Georgian city of Batumi under the auspices of GUAM
GUAM is a military agreement between Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova, first established in 1997. Since 2006, following the withdrawal of Uzbekistan, GUAM was renamed: The Organization for Democracy and Economic Development - GUAM.
GUAM has little to do with "Democracy and Economic Development". It is a de facto appendage of NATO. It has been used by the US and the Atlantic Alliance to extend their zone of influence into the heartland of the former Soviet Union.
The main thrust of GUAM as a military alliance is to "protect" the energy and transportation corridors, on behalf of the Anglo-American oil giants. GUAM countries are also the recipients of US-NATO military aid and training.
The militarization of these corridors is a central feature of US-NATO planning. Georgia and Ukraine membership in NATO is part of the agenda of controlling the energy and transport corridors from the Caspian Sea basin to Western Europe.
The July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit Batumi meetings, under the chairmanship of President Saakashvili, focused on the central issue of pipeline and transportation corridors. The theme of the Summit was a "GUAM – Integrating Europe’s East”, from an economic and strategic-military standpoint, essentially with a view to isolating Russia.
The presidents of Azerbaijan, Georgia and the Ukraine (respectively Ilham Aliyev, Mikheil Saakashvili and Viktor Yushchenko) were in attendance together with the presidents of Poland, Lech Kaczynski, and Lithuania, Valdas Adamkus. Moldova's head of State flatly refused to attend this summit.
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I thought I'd cut and paste a little bit, something I rarely do.:lol:
The Eurasian Corridor: Pipeline Geopolitics and the New Cold War
By Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, August 22, 2008
The ongoing crisis in the Caucasus is intimately related to the control over energy pipeline and transportation corridors.
There is evidence that the Georgian attack on South Ossetia on August 7 was carefully planned. High level consultations were held with US and NATO officials in the months preceding the attacks.
The attacks on South Ossetia were carried out one week after the completion of extensive US - Georgia war games (July 15-31st, 200
. They were also preceded by high level Summit meetings held under the auspices GUAM, a US-NATO sponsored regional military alliance. War in Georgia Time Line
July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.
July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.
July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".
July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)
July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.
August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia
August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.
August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory
Introduction: The GUAM Summit VenueJuly 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.
July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".
July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)
July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.
August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia
August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.
August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory
In early July 2008, a regional summit was held in the Georgian city of Batumi under the auspices of GUAM
GUAM is a military agreement between Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova, first established in 1997. Since 2006, following the withdrawal of Uzbekistan, GUAM was renamed: The Organization for Democracy and Economic Development - GUAM.
GUAM has little to do with "Democracy and Economic Development". It is a de facto appendage of NATO. It has been used by the US and the Atlantic Alliance to extend their zone of influence into the heartland of the former Soviet Union.
The main thrust of GUAM as a military alliance is to "protect" the energy and transportation corridors, on behalf of the Anglo-American oil giants. GUAM countries are also the recipients of US-NATO military aid and training.
The militarization of these corridors is a central feature of US-NATO planning. Georgia and Ukraine membership in NATO is part of the agenda of controlling the energy and transport corridors from the Caspian Sea basin to Western Europe.
The July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit Batumi meetings, under the chairmanship of President Saakashvili, focused on the central issue of pipeline and transportation corridors. The theme of the Summit was a "GUAM – Integrating Europe’s East”, from an economic and strategic-military standpoint, essentially with a view to isolating Russia.
The presidents of Azerbaijan, Georgia and the Ukraine (respectively Ilham Aliyev, Mikheil Saakashvili and Viktor Yushchenko) were in attendance together with the presidents of Poland, Lech Kaczynski, and Lithuania, Valdas Adamkus. Moldova's head of State flatly refused to attend this summit.
I wonder how long it'll take before "Freedom Roulette" is coined LMFAO
Too bad Russians don't wear distinctive clothing, it's gonna be hard to know who to opress here in the west- why don't THEY have mosques or something so retards can blow THEM up
Too bad Russians don't wear distinctive clothing, it's gonna be hard to know who to opress here in the west- why don't THEY have mosques or something so retards can blow THEM up
Uh huh, well then its disinformation spread by Russia, the UN and Iraq itself as well. And if everyone involved agrees on things, is it really disinformation?
The be fair, North Vietnam was in talks to surrender before the western media got the general American populace to believe they should surrender first.
And that glorious lesson on the power of the Media is how Bush convinced everyone to invade Iraq in the first place. At least the US government learned from its defeats...I guess?
True, but semantics aside thats what was being put on the table and thats basically what America did.
JTF- I will look it up, or you could, but post 9-11 our local Mosque was indeed vandalized and fire-bombed shortly thereafter, and in Hamilton, a Hindu temple got burned to the ground for being attended by "rag headed terrorists"- the Hindu community was not amused but still felt sorry for how painfully stupid the perpetrators were and made sure to speak out against racism in light of the event- which to me was a fairly obvious instance of how stupid most racist/sheep-like folks actually are