Why does Trudeau dawdle when benefits of Cannabis control go to the evil side?

[Johnnny]

You voted for Trudeau cause he said he was going to legalize the dope...... stupid

 

[French Patriot]

It's labour laws that will be the stoners new barrier. Good luck getting a good job.

So you think employment and not morality ands intelligent thought should determine our laws.

Nice social conscience friend.


Especially when we know that alcohol and tobacco do a hell of a lot more damage to society than cannabis.

Regards
DL

 

[petros]

It will take time. Not everybody is as judgemental as you are assuming.

There are whole industries where by the creative process is the money maker and the more creative the people...

There are lots of companies right now who require the knowledge of pot and the stone the pot gives...

It's really only a percentage of the population that has a huge fear of users. The Cheech and Chong edition of stoner, is no more valid then Reefer Madness...

It's not up to the companies it's LABOUR LAWS and the companies that insure employees of companies.

It's not about judgement. It's about public safety, employee safety, job performance and getting insurance.

 

[Twila]

It's not up to the companies it's LABOUR LAWS and the companies that insure employees of companies.

It's not about judgement. It's about employee safety, job performance and getting insurance.

It's about stigma.

 

[French Patriot]

Thanks for the reply. You do realize that I advocated nothing in my post either way. As you pointed out. Stupid people will continue to be stupid people with regard to drug use. However, there is one thing you are wrong about. If marijuana is legalized my wife might use it for medical reasons. She does not use it now and never has. Ditto for me. I expect a number of non-users might be willing to give it a try once the stigma of it being an illegal drug is removed.

That would be quite good for your wife as cannabis has one of the lowest toxicity rating of all the known drugs.


Regards
DL

 

[taxslave]

Define 'normal dopers' please. A recent poll identified only 15% of canadians self identify as someone that has used marijuana in the past year. This activity is by definition a deviant activity. too bad, so sad.

Normal dopers- People that smoke pot
Deviant dopers_ those that depend on Big Pharma for their high.

 

[petros]

If grown properly. If not flushed it is nasty dangerous crap.

Especially organic.

 

[French Patriot]

It's only a deviant activity to fear-mongers who want us to think that as soon as you smoke a joint, you suddenly have an irresistible urge to shoot heroin.


There's a difference between social-recreational use, and persistent use as a coping mechanism. And when it comes to labour, it's already the case that if someone requires consistent marijuana use for medicinal purposes, an employer must accommodate the employee to the point of undue hardship (and that threshold is extremely high).

Few recognize the difference between cannabis use and cannabis intoxication or addiction. Ask any who use it for various conditions and they will tell you it helps the condition without contributing much to being high.


Regards
DL

 

[taxslave]

If grown properly. If not flushed it is nasty dangerous crap.

Especially organic.

Can be alright. One of the biggest problems is having to buy from a grower you don't know. No telling what kind of crap they used for fertilizer or mixed into bunk to make have some kind of kick.

 

[French Patriot]

The daycare lady who looked after my daughter has terminal cancer and is NOW smoking pot.

She never smoked it before. She is using it because it was prescribed by her doctor to help with the pain, and her appetite.

She says it's working. That's good.

You're so right about the stigma...how unfortunate that stigma is.

If it wasn't so strong we'd know just how many professionals do use regularily and while working. Right now, they can't. Too bad. Imagine how much we'd know about "impairment" and the like if so many weren't afraid of the stigma...

That stigma comes from those who do not know that most liberal thinkers have advocated an end to all prohibition of all drugs as it impairs research and development.


I like the medical model instead of the legal model as it enhances health instead of causing harm where there would otherwise be no harm.


Regards
DL

You voted for Trudeau cause he said he was going to legalize the dope...... stupid

No.


I was fed up with the black marketers bribing our government officials to not change the laws and I was also fed up with the alcohol and tobacco lobby's doing their own bribing for the same reason.


You are forgetting that it is alcohol and tobacco that do the most damage to our society.


That is what is stupid.


Regards
DL

If grown properly. If not flushed it is nasty dangerous crap.

Especially organic.

Cannabis, unless adulterated by government, kills fewer people than all the other drugs you can name.


In most countries the number of death attributed to cannabis is 0.


Even coffee and chocolate has worse stats.


Regards
DL

 

[petros]

Can be alright. One of the biggest problems is having to buy from a grower you don't know. No telling what kind of crap they used for fertilizer or mixed into bunk to make have some kind of kick.

No, urea in your lungs is not alright.

That stigma comes from those who do not know that most liberal thinkers have advocated an end to all prohibition of all drugs as it impairs research and development.


I like the medical model instead of the legal model as it enhances health instead of causing harm where there would otherwise be no harm.


Regards
DL




No.


I was fed up with the black marketers bribing our government officials to not change the laws and I was also fed up with the alcohol and tobacco lobby's doing their own bribing for the same reason.


You are forgetting that it is alcohol and tobacco that do the most damage to our society.


That is what is stupid.


Regards
DL





Cannabis, unless adulterated by government, kills fewer people than all the other drugs you can name.


In most countries the number of death attributed to cannabis is 0.


Even coffee and chocolate has worse stats.


Regards
DL

Another pot myth.

 

[taxslave]

Good luck holding any kind of a f**king job! I have nothing against pot, except that it and work don't mix!

Works well for Olympic snowboarders.

 

[petros]

If stoner Olympic snowboarders start building airliners for Bombardier would you still fly?

 

[French Patriot]

Another pot myth.

Get the stats or remain in blissful ignorance.


Regards
DL

 

[petros]

Cannabis Use Triggered 2 Deaths, According To German Study

Cannabis 'kills 30,000 a year' | Daily Mail Online

 

[French Patriot]

Cannabis Use Triggered 2 Deaths, According To German Study

"The findings are noteworthy because cannabis isn't normally associated with acute physical problems, let alone death."


Thanks for making my point.


Do you blame alcohol when a drunk driver kills someone or do you blame the driver for being too stupid to not drive?


Regards
DL

 

[JLM]

Cannabis, unless adulterated by government, kills fewer people than all the other drugs you can name.


In most countries the number of death attributed to cannabis is 0.


Even coffee and chocolate has worse stats.


Regards
DL

Does death have to be proven before the sh*t is banned? What about the fact (that I've witnessed with my own eyes) that it makes users absolutely f**king useless performing any type of manual labour?

 

[petros]

Add in the "but.....".

Just look at Cliffy. Half a million worth of heart surgery but hey, pot doesn't kill.

Does death have to be proven before the sh*t is banned? What about the fact (that I've witnessed with my own eyes) that it makes users absolutely f**king useless performing any type of manual labour?

Just wait. Not only will you have to card in to a job site or building, but you'll also need to swab in to a job site or building.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Thanks for the reply. You do realize that I advocated nothing in my post either way. As you pointed out. Stupid people will continue to be stupid people with regard to drug use. However, there is one thing you are wrong about. If marijuana is legalized my wife might use it for medical reasons. She does not use it now and never has. Ditto for me. I expect a number of non-users might be willing to give it a try once the stigma of it being an illegal drug is removed.

No problem. btw it wasn't meant as a snipe.

I think if it is legalized there will be so many safer ways of ingestion available rather than smoking it. That alone is a plus.

I might open up a bakery.

Does death have to be proven before the sh*t is banned? What about the fact (that I've witnessed with my own eyes) that it makes users absolutely f**king useless performing any type of manual labour?

Put those people to work in a silly putty factory.

 

[petros]

It's about stigma.

Bullsh-t! Is it stigma that gets you fired if you show up drunk?