Why are tea baggers white?

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SirJoseph



You may be confusing the IRA with my own FMA which is more of a buy and sell and hold onto your hat thing.... although I have calmed down for the last year and
am slowly crawling back into the plus profit status - I don't touch the IRA other than to file annually.

HA! Joey is NEVER confused nor wrong. How dare you accuse him of being such!
 

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Unemplyoment December 2008- One month before Obama takes office- 7.7%

Today- 9.7%

Have a nice day!

And what does that tell us? Unemployment is the lagging indicator of economic downturn or economic upturn, it lags behind all the other indicators. Bush had set forces in motion which resulted in huge unemployment long after Obama came to office.

It is only the most loyal Republican partisan who will blame Obama for the increased unemployment, it was caused by Bush. Obama had to take extraordinary measures to clean up the gigantic mess left by Bush, and it looks like he may be succeeding, though at a cost (budget deficit).

But the unemployment in 2009 was purely caused by Bush policies. But then such niceties don’t bother Bush acolytes. I remember when stock market was crashing in November 2008, Bush acolytes were busy blaming Obama and not Bush, even though Obama was not the president.

We all know what Bush acolytes think. According to Bush acolytes, the huge Bush meltdown was the fault of Obama, Clinton and Carter (I don’t know if they blame Kennedy and Johnson as well).
 

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Did he cause the recession? How is that his fault? Your comment is irrational.

I'm not defending him. I don't really care one way or another. I just think your response was emotional and not logical.

Of course Obama caused the recession. Well, to be fair, he was not alone in that. The fault also goes to Clinton and Carter (and to Kennedy and Johnson, perhaps even to FDR).

That is the typical Bush acolyte thinking.
 

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No he didn't. But he did say he'd fix it. The GOP created this mess and the Democrats swore they could fix it that is why they won.

Not illogical at all.

And they are fixing it, all the signs (including unemployment) are that the economy is on the mend. But Bush has been crapping for eight years non stop, it takes time to clean up the mess.
 

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But the Democrats have owned the entire Congress for about four years. Things got worse. It is not just on the Executive Office, it's the Congress too.

The presidency gets the credit or the blame for what happens. Thus in the 1996 election, people gave credit to Clinton for fixing the economy and running a surplus, they didn't give credit to Republicans.

Same way, blame goes to Bush. Now Obama owns the economy and he will get the credit or the blame for it in 2012.
 

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The presidency gets the credit or the blame for what happens. Thus in the 1996 election, people gave credit to Clinton for fixing the economy and running a surplus, they didn't give credit to Republicans.

Same way, blame goes to Bush. Now Obama owns the economy and he will get the credit or the blame for it in 2012.
OK, so why don't you affix any blame to Clinton, since he repealed the Glass Steagul Act?
 

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40K jobs...14.9 MILLION Unemployed. Great...just great. :roll:

Indeed, that was the extent of Bush meltdown, 14.9 million unemployed. good of you to admit it. Now Obama has just started cleaning up the gigantic mess. Bush has been crapping for eight years, it will take time.

Until now Obama was just getting the mop, cleaning fluid, disinfectant etc. together. But it will take a long time to clean up the mess, considering the extent of it.
 

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SirJoseph

There were dividends from Capital World Growth and Income Fund Class A, Capital Income Builder Fund Class A, New Perspective Fund Class A, Bond Fund of Merica Class A and some reinvestments with CitibankNA South Dakota

They are all on both Fed and State income tax forms for the IRA.....Tax guy said everything was done conservatively but honestly..... it is why I have him do the preparation...

You may be confusing the IRA with my own FMA which is more of a buy and sell and hold onto your hat thing.... although I have calmed down for the last year and
am slowly crawling back into the plus profit status - I don't touch the IRA other than to file annually.

I am writing all of this not knowing what the heck I am writing.... but appreciate you warning me to be more concerned that I have been.... I've never been much of a Scrooge "count the money" kinda person..... but I see it appears I am being careless too and need to pay more attention....

Thanks people...

I have my investments in three different places (plus bank accounts, insurance policies etc.) and I have put everything on the computer. Since I get quarterly statements, I update my portfolio every quarter, correct for investments sold, investments bought etc.

When I am done, it tells me as a glance how I did in the previous quarter. In fact the quarter ended just now, so currently I am in the process of doing that.

But if you put it on a LOTUS worksheet or similar, it becomes easy.
 

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Indeed, that was the extent of Bush meltdown, 14.9 million unemployed. good of you to admit it. Now Obama has just started cleaning up the gigantic mess. Bush has been crapping for eight years, it will take time.

Until now Obama was just getting the mop, cleaning fluid, disinfectant etc. together. But it will take a long time to clean up the mess, considering the extent of it.

Sorry...the numbers just don't match up.

From 2000 to 2008 the unemployment figures fluxed from 4% to 7.4%.

During this administration it has been 7.7% to 9.7% peaking at a whopping 10.1% in October. The highest in decades. He's supposed to fix it not make it worse.
 

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Indeed, that was the extent of Bush meltdown, 14.9 million unemployed. good of you to admit it. Now Obama has just started cleaning up the gigantic mess. Bush has been crapping for eight years, it will take time.

It is 14.9 MILLION today. You just proved my point.

Good of you to agree with me.
 

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Sorry...the numbers just don't match up.

From 2000 to 2008 the unemployment figures fluxed from 4% to 7.4%.

During this administration it has been 7.7% to 9.7% peaking at a whopping 10.1% in October. The highest in decades. He's supposed to fix it not make it worse.

It was the Bush meltdown which caused the unemployment. Obama is in the process of fixing it. If the trend of lower unemployment continues, you better pray for a double dip recession or a depression come November. If people become convinced that economy is on the right track, Republicans could be in serious trouble come November.
 

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It was the Bush meltdown which caused the unemployment. Obama is in the process of fixing it. If the trend of lower unemployment continues, you better pray for a double dip recession or a depression come November. If people become convinced that economy is on the right track, Republicans could be in serious trouble come November.

Some how the blame Bush thing just isn't working any longer. He had a year to show progress.

Serious trouble in November? :lol:

A year ago the GOP was on life support and the Administration and Democrat controlled congress spent the last year reviving it.
 

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Thanks Sir Joseph - I had trouble logging into the site here and delayed me getting back to see what people had written.

I doubt I solved anything but to be honest I am satisfied I am being treated honestly. The stock firm is a well known and my piffle isn't anything they would
want to bother getting into trouble over.

I think maybe I should start paying some attention to a portion of the IRA in the next little while - maybe for six months to see if I can get back some lost money... I might even learn something (nah I won't).... I'm really stupid about money I admit it. farra
 

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And in addition... Democrat Michigan Congressman Stupak just declared he will not be running for re-election. Just like Patrick "Patches" Kennedy (D-RI) decided he won't run. The rats are getting off the ship, or don't want to face the voters.
 

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And in addition... Democrat Michigan Congressman Stupak just declared he will not be running for re-election. Just like Patrick "Patches" Kennedy (D-RI) decided he won't run. The rats are getting off the ship, or don't want to face the voters.
Seeing as SJP claims I'm on his ignore list, so he doesn't have to answer my questions, can you do me a favour and ask him if the Presidency is the responsible party, As he has now qualified with his own words. Then why is it he doesn't hold Clinton partially responsible, because he repealed the Glass Steagul Act.

If you would be so kind or inclined sir.
 

EagleSmack

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Seeing as SJP claims I'm on his ignore list, so he doesn't have to answer my questions, can you do me a favour and ask him if the Presidency is the responsible party, As he has now qualified with his own words. Then why is it he doesn't hold Clinton partially responsible, because he repealed the Glass Steagul Act.

If you would be so kind or inclined sir.

I will certainly pass the word along.

Hey Joey... Is Clinton responsible for the Glass Steagul Act?