Why are tea baggers white?

TenPenny

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Ten Penny- the Dow is just an average of a bunch of Industrial stocks and may have nothing to do with where Curio had her money invested.

Oh, thanks for pointing that out. I thought the Dow was a personal measurement of retirement wealth, individualized for whatever citizen you were thinking of when you looked up the index.
 

JLM

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Oh, thanks for pointing that out. I thought the Dow was a personal measurement of retirement wealth, individualized for whatever citizen you were thinking of when you looked up the index.

No problem, just glad to be able to help out.
 

ironsides

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I feel that the Fed Gov. is propping up the stock market by strengthening the dollar artificially thru the price of oil. There is no reason for oil to be hovering around $86 a barrel at this time, with demand being lower this time of year. There will be a major stock market drop before the end of the year, there is only so much a goverment can do to keep a dollar strong.
 

CDNBear

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But a man can be an extremist and still show all the attributes you mentioned. Larry Elder only publishes in the extreme right wing websites, such as WorldNetDaily and TownHall. Mainstream media does not carry his articles. As far as I am concerned, he does not have enough credibility.
So by you definition, to have cred, you need to be published by MSM?

Then what's your issue with Peter Worthington? He fits your criteria.

I guess that's why Honda and GM are hiring lots of people in Ontario, because the Wendy's and Burger King jobs in the US are so lucrative.
Really? I know Honda will be slowly ramping up their second shift next year. But they aren't hiring yet. Even when the line is coming up, it will be recalls first, then for those positions whose associates have moved on, they'll hire temps from agencies and filter out who they like. In the end they may be looking at a dozen or so spots. Hardly a big hiring binge.
 

JLM

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I feel that the Fed Gov. is propping up the stock market by strengthening the dollar artificially thru the price of oil. There is no reason for oil to be hovering around $86 a barrel at this time, with demand being lower this time of year. There will be a major stock market drop before the end of the year, there is only so much a goverment can do to keep a dollar strong.

On that note now might be the time to start doing some profit taking and convert some equity investments to fixed income investments to have cash ready to buy back into equities after it crashes.
 

Kreskin

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Oh, thanks for pointing that out. I thought the Dow was a personal measurement of retirement wealth, individualized for whatever citizen you were thinking of when you looked up the index.

That's the PsychicDow index. I use the index in my avatar.
 

Curiosity

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The losses in the IRA ....

These were purchased by my husband years ago and are moved around with the
sole decision of the broker and owner of that IRA. It is a retirement savings plan and the purchases are generally those of long term, rather bland investments.

There was a steady growth over the years I was keeping an eye on them (I know because I had to pay tax on them - not as much as I would if I had withdrawn any of the funds - but still the government had it's finger in the pot).....

In 2008/09 they plunged to an amount of $300,000 from 2008 half way to the end of 2009. This year they have gained a portion in return - approx. $50,000 and if I watch them carefuly perhaps they will grow back but the $300,000 is the amount which occurred when Obama became president or was campaigning for the job.

I have another account of more like a risk-taking one which I use as "my money".... it also lost funds but grew back quickly because my broker is allowed to
play more with that kind of purchase.... the IRA's have to follow different rules as I understand it. I pay higher taxes on this portfolio. Last year the taxes were "deferred" to be paid at the end of 2010 (go figure like that is some kind of wishful financial planning!).... pay at the beginning or the end..... some people will spend what they will have to pay..... it doesn't seem to be sound investment strategy.

I am sorry - the nation is headed for a depression unless some bright guy figures out how to access more work, jobs, housing, export, all those things we have turned over to nations who are getting very wealthy on the U.S. lack of foresight.

I have always thought the U.S. "took care of its own first" - not so much any more - they seem more interested in maintaining a huge military force around the world. No one nation should be expected to shoulder the skirmishes all over the planet alone. Also the jobs are being farmed out to other nations.... when Americans are out of work. Even I who am a dunce in financial matters, sees this as insane.

I have become an isolationist..... I never thought I would see the sense in it....now I do.
 

Kreskin

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The losses in the IRA ....

These were purchased by my husband years ago and are moved around with the
sole decision of the broker and owner of that IRA. It is a retirement savings plan and the purchases are generally those of long term, rather bland investments.

There was a steady growth over the years I was keeping an eye on them (I know because I had to pay tax on them - not as much as I would if I had withdrawn any of the funds - but still the government had it's finger in the pot).....

In 2008/09 they plunged to an amount of $300,000 from 2008 half way to the end of 2009. This year they have gained a portion in return - approx. $50,000 and if I watch them carefuly perhaps they will grow back but the $300,000 is the amount which occurred when Obama became president or was campaigning for the job.

I have another account of more like a risk-taking one which I use as "my money".... it also lost funds but grew back quickly because my broker is allowed to
play more with that kind of purchase.... the IRA's have to follow different rules as I understand it. I pay higher taxes on this portfolio. Last year the taxes were "deferred" to be paid at the end of 2010 (go figure like that is some kind of wishful financial planning!).... pay at the beginning or the end..... some people will spend what they will have to pay..... it doesn't seem to be sound investment strategy.

I am sorry - the nation is headed for a depression unless some bright guy figures out how to access more work, jobs, housing, export, all those things we have turned over to nations who are getting very wealthy on the U.S. lack of foresight.

I have always thought the U.S. "took care of its own first" - not so much any more - they seem more interested in maintaining a huge military force around the world. No one nation should be expected to shoulder the skirmishes all over the planet alone. Also the jobs are being farmed out to other nations.... when Americans are out of work. Even I who am a dunce in financial matters, sees this as insane.

I have become an isolationist..... I never thought I would see the sense in it....now I do.
Let me guess..you're broker felt that since bank stocks were down 25% and couldn't get any lower he/she moved you in, and the same with GM.

Brokers have a worse record than Obama.
 

Curiosity

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Kreskin

I don't know what the "broker" was thinking because the one who originally worked out my husband's contribution situation for his eventual retirement died and another broker took over.

For a while she was knee deep in the company being partnered and dropping partnerships and becoming another brokerage firm....etc. etc. I never knew what they were going to call themselves from one month to another....

This was all in 2008 and finally towards the middle of 2009, my husband's IRA had lost money - without being added to or changed in any way.

I am certain it was all legal because everyone was losing money but I am not a wild person regarding money so I plugged along without any changes to my own needs other than a wild shopping trip or something like that...no world cruises....I did buy a new auto - but that was on the advice of friends who thought a new vehicle would ensure safety for me. I have never withdrawn any money from the IRA.

I'm not in the sad sad shape where young couples have purchased homes which were being put up in huge numbers.....the couples having young children in school with many years of support ahead of them and trying to save for college .....
Now they are letting the houses go because their mortgages are far too expensive to try to catch up and are worth more than their homes on the market....

I know it is a glitch....but many people are learning the hard way..... perhaps it is best....but when the government is playing the same games with money we don't have..... I am concerned. Maybe I shouldn't be blaming the government, but the fact is I think the government in its zest to "renew America" has gone off the deep end.
 

YukonJack

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"I kind of thought Obama was like a breath of fresh air,..."

Obama and all his supporters, in and out of the United States is more like an advanced and irreversible and uncurable case of halitosis.
 

YukonJack

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A REAL, self-confessed tea-bagger is Rep. Barney Franks (D - MA).

An implied one, by his posts and his strange and loving affiliation to anything homosexual is: ____________

You fill in the bank.
 

Cliffy

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A REAL, self-confessed tea-bagger is Rep. Barney Franks (D - MA).

An implied one, by his posts and his strange and loving affiliation to anything homosexual is: ____________

You fill in the bank.
Still being homophobic Jack.
From what I hear it is a college student prank. It has nothing to do with sexual preference. Your ranting about disgusting homosexuals just paints you as a homophobe, and any psychologist will tell yo that a homophobe is a closet queen. Most closet queens are terrified that they will be found out and refuse to even acknowledge their own sexual preference.
Jack! You protest too much. You are letting the cat out of the bag (or queen out of the closet) inadvertently.
 

YukonJack

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Still the empty, name-calling, accusing without substantiation, lying and falsifying liberal, Cliffy.

Since you did not fill in the blank, let me do it for you: CLIFFY.

BTW: quoting yourself is the ultimate of self-delusuion.
 

Cliffy

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Still the empty, name-calling, accusing without substantiation, lying and falsifying liberal, Cliffy.

Since you did not fill in the blank, let me do it for you: CLIFFY.

BTW: quoting yourself is the ultimate of self-delusuion.
And you would be an expert in all those matters, right Jack. Your homophobic rants are quite telling though. If you don't believe me, ask your shrink.
 

EagleSmack

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What Obama has caused is for all to see. Booming stock market, house prices stabilized, employment on the rise, unemployment on the decrease. All the economic indicators (including employment) point to a recovering economy.

Unemplyoment December 2008- One month before Obama takes office- 7.7%

Today- 9.7%

Have a nice day!
 

Cliffy

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Unemplyoment December 2008- One month before Obama takes office- 7.7%

Today- 9.7%

Have a nice day!
Did he cause the recession? How is that his fault? Your comment is irrational.

I'm not defending him. I don't really care one way or another. I just think your response was emotional and not logical.
 

EagleSmack

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Did he cause the recession? How is that his fault? Your comment is irrational.

I'm not defending him. I don't really care one way or another. I just think your response was emotional and not logical.

No he didn't. But he did say he'd fix it. The GOP created this mess and the Democrats swore they could fix it that is why they won.

Not illogical at all.
 

Cliffy

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No he didn't. But he did say he'd fix it. The GOP created this mess and the Democrats swore they could fix it that is why they won.

Not illogical at all.
It took 8 years to screw it up and you expect him to wave a magic wand and make it all better?