Why Are So Many Christians So Un-Christian?
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... and yet, here to are!
So, he was what? ...a Christian? ( They weren't invented yet ...requires death and resurrection) ... a Druid? ... a Roman Pagan? ... a Greek Pagan? ...Zoroastrian? ...???
Hmmm, no.
BTW, Jesus is referred to by the title "Rabbi" in the New Testament.
The synagogue ruler Jairus was also a believer (Matthew 9; Mark 5; Luke 8 ).
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Hypocrisy isn't new Cliffy. But no need to throw everyone under the hypocrisy bus. Actually, it would be better if you threw EVERYONE under the bus. Instead, you attack "many" republicans & Christians. What about democrats & independents & other religions ? Any hypocrites there?Many right-wing Christians vilify the poor, in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus. Why the hypocrisy?
In an age where your average Republican politician is thumping the Bible with one hand and trying to strip food from the mouths of the poor with the other, it’s become a sad cliché to point out how little the most outspoken Christians have in common with their charity-preaching, forgiveness-loving messiah. It’s only gotten worse in recent years, with the followers of the man who cured lepers threatening to shut down the government if Obama insists on giving more people access to healthcare.
Why Are So Many Christians So Un-Christian? | Alternet
It's been awhile since I visted the forum. I had hoped I would have found a harmonious forum upon my return. Instead, I find Cliffy once again proclaiming that all Christians are emmisaries of the devil.
It's good to be back!
And especially for you Cliffy - a little scripture verse & only RED LETTER!!!
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
I did not choose this verse to direct at you, Cliffy. I chose it because I thought it was one of Jesus' best & it is suited to the discussion.
It's not often you hear another admonish the red letters. I'm in agreement with that. Those are the words I like as well. Any other parts of the NT I can live without.
I didn't write the piece. I just threw it out there for discussion. This is a Christian discussion after all. We can discuss other religions if you want but we may have to start another thread.
What I find interesting is that if a self proclaimed Christian perpetrated a mass murder, he is not a true Christian, he is just a wacko. But if a Muslim does it, Muslims are all terrorists cuz it is part of their religion. Well, the OT is full of violence and retribution. If Christians don't want to be associated with the OT, then why do they still have it in their bible?
Butting in here but I prefer the Tanakh, or old testament to the new. If it is read in a figurative sense.
I do not share that view. I see it as more of good vs evil issue. Set politics, religion aside. If someone has commited mass murder, I put that in the evil column. I don't need to hear if they are an NRA member or Jehovah's witness or Hindu or progressive. (I'm not suggesting NRA members, J WITs, Hindus or progressives are evil. So don't give me any jazz on that) I just stick them (mass murderers) in the Evil column. I like to keep it all very basic.
Murder=Bad, Very Bad
Feeding the poor= Good
Not Feeding the poor because you are concerned the food may be an allergen to some= Good
Kicking someone in the shins= well that all depends, right?
LUD, why do you dismiss much of the NT.
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Many right-wing Christians vilify the poor, in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus. Why the hypocrisy?
In an age where your average Republican politician is thumping the Bible with one hand and trying to strip food from the mouths of the poor with the other, it’s become a sad cliché to point out how little the most outspoken Christians have in common with their charity-preaching, forgiveness-loving messiah. It’s only gotten worse in recent years, with the followers of the man who cured lepers threatening to shut down the government if Obama insists on giving more people access to healthcare.
Why Are So Many Christians So Un-Christian? | Alternet
Because they don't read the Gospel?
Well, most of the right wing evangelical tea baggers probably can't read and rely on their blood sucking preachers to tell them what to think. I'm pretty sure the author of that piece was thinking about those kinds of wackos.
I'be met 'Muslims' who refused to read the Qur'án except in Arabic even though they knew little Arabic. It was possible because Arabic spelling is phonetic, allowing a person to read a whole text without understanding what he was reading.
I'd challenged one once, and he'd explained that we shouldn't read a translation because it could be erroneous. He'd explained that he would ask his local imam and he would explain it to him in his language.
I questioned the wisdom of that, explaining that while I acknowledged that a translation could be erroneous, that given that the translator would sit at a desk with a dictionary, grammar, and literary models, and take the time to produce the best translation he can, would it not be more reasonable to trust his translation that the local imam's off-the-cuff paraphrase?
He just looked at me confused and said: 'I don't know,' and then we changed subject.
This man was an educated engineer, and I have no doubt that he was intelligent when it came to business and engineering at least.
But when it came to religion, he just made no sense to me. At least Protestants read the Gospel in a language they understand. The problem then though, is that many don't read it at all.
Thanks Motar. I see the forum is as lively as ever. the only thing missing is the wildebeest.
Cliffy, You're not doing much for the peace & harmony of the forum.
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Give examples which illustrate your view that Democrats practice Christian hypocrisy.
As for other religions, Islam is attacked far more than all others combined on this forum.
Gopher, My view is that all people can exhibit hypocritical behavior. I do not currently have a democratic laundry list of sins to present. But, if we tune in to the news, Im sure our fine politicians from both sides of the aisle can afford us many examples. Or we could do as Jesus instructed instead…Get the beam out of thine own eye first before removing the speck in the republicans, or democrats or libertarians etc etc
I do not believe there are "many right wing Christians that villify the poor". That is just a pot stirring comment. The right wing, left wing and no wing Christians/others I know volunteer at the food pantry and shelters with me. We don't fight about who is the most hypocritical & we don't villianize the people we serve.