Who is Canada's biggest corporate criminal?

Cliffy

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Shilling as you say is hardly criminal and he does so in the interests of Canada.
I would question that. I think he is just looking out for the corporate interests who paid to get him in office just like any other politician.

"A man with a briefcase
can steal more money
than any man with a gun" - Don Henley
 

Mowich

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Maybe if enough posters respond we can identify all of them. I'll start the ball rolling by nominating David Hahn (head honcho B.C. Ferries)

More fodder for your topic, JLM.

Maureen Bader


"For example, in (fiscal year) 2010, BC Hydro's CEO Bob Elton made $749,213 in total salary and bonuses, Pavco CEO Warren Buckley made $560,307, ICBC CEO Jon Schubert made $507,306 and BCSC CEO Brenda Leong made $499,251.

These are just a few examples but there are about 30 crown corporations in B.C. They employ about 22,000 people and if we add up all the wages paid to bureaucrats we get an idea of how much of a burden these Crown Corporations create. In B.C., the wage burden went up from about $650 million to about $1 billion between 1990 and 1997, then stayed fairly steady until 2008, when it took off to $1.6 billion. "
 

mentalfloss

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Shilling as you say is hardly criminal and he does so in the interests of Canada.

Really?

Like shilling for big oil is helping Canadians at the gas pump?
Gas prices have never been higher in this conservative, free market.

Like shilling for big telcos is helping Canadians on the internet?
They're actually on board with Bell's UBB, even though they preach anti-competitive measures.

Like shilling for all corporations with tax cuts is helping consumers at the transaction counter?
With our 'strong' economy and dollar, prices are going up.

Oh, I forgot, we get some tax breaks that save us pennies while we're spending dollars.
 
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mentalfloss

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Being a CEO doesn't make one a corporate criminal...

I know you're just playing here, but I should clarify that I'm not quite using the term 'criminal' in the literal sense. Conrad Black should be a bonafide criminal by comparison.
 

Tonington

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I know you're just playing here, but I should clarify that I'm not quite using the term 'criminal' in the literal sense. Conrad Black should be a bonafide criminal by comparison.

I wasn't referring to you specifically, there's quite a few posts in this thread that are just nonsense.
 

cranky

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wait for it..................It was bio-diesel bus.

I'm shocked none of you have come close to the biggest.

At the time, there were hundreds of posts made by about a dozen members, not one of them found any evidence of this. In fact, it wasn't even suggested. Are you making this up?
 

cranky

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Without a doubt, Telus. Deceitful cell phone crooks.

Except, I'm the typical guy that actually uses their cellphone. Last fall, I compared all the rates and plans, and if Telus is a crook, then they are all crooks.

I found slightly different approachs to rates and plans, but nothing really stood out from the crowd.
 

Kreskin

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Except, I'm the typical guy that actually uses their cellphone. Last fall, I compared all the rates and plans, and if Telus is a crook, then they are all crooks.

I found slightly different approachs to rates and plans, but nothing really stood out from the crowd.
They are the only one I've dealt with. I no longer have one. However I still get bills. The most recent a $100 cancellation fee??? They just keep trying to bleed me for fictious baloney. I called their rep and first thing she said was that since I no longer have the number I would need to know the pin number of the existing owner. I was like, huh? After playing charades with that she finally explains to me that I owe $100, case closed. I had to fight my way to her supervisor before getting acknowledgement that I didn't owe $100.

Look at your bill. If you can make any sense out of half of the charges you're well on your way to a Nobel Prize.
 

Mowich

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Really?

Like shilling for big oil is helping Canadians at the gas pump?
Gas prices have never been higher in this conservative, free market.

Like shilling for big telcos is helping Canadians on the internet?
They're actually on board with Bell's UBB, even though they preach anti-competitive measures.

Like shilling for all corporations with tax cuts is helping consumers at the transaction counter?
With our 'strong' economy and dollar, prices are going up.

Oh, I forgot, we get some tax breaks that save us pennies while we're spending dollars.

I stated that he did so in the interests of Canada. Whether they are to our advantage or not is open for debate.

I would question that. I think he is just looking out for the corporate interests who paid to get him in office just like any other politician.

"A man with a briefcase
can steal more money
than any man with a gun" - Don Henley

And you are most welcome to your opinion, Cliffy - as am I to mine. :smile:

They are the only one I've dealt with. I no longer have one. However I still get bills. The most recent a $100 cancellation fee??? They just keep trying to bleed me for fictious baloney. I called their rep and first thing she said was that since I no longer have the number I would need to know the pin number of the existing owner. I was like, huh? After playing charades with that she finally explains to me that I owe $100, case closed. I had to fight my way to her supervisor before getting acknowledgement that I didn't owe $100.

Look at your bill. If you can make any sense out of half of the charges you're well on your way to a Nobel Prize.

I will be sooooooo happy the day I am able to pull the plug on Telus. I cut them off as my long distance carrier years ago as soon as I heard about Yak - they are still calling me and sending all kinds of information in the mail trying to get me back. When I first connected to the net they were the only company in my area offering connections. I had nothing but trouble from day one with technical problems and they were of little or no help at all. As soon as I heard that a local server had opened in 100 Mile, I immediately switched to them and have never, ever had a single problem nor was the server ever down. That same company is now the one putting up towers in our area and there is an outside possibility that we could have high-speed connections this fall.

Telus has all the equipment they need to connect us to highspeed internet expect for some switches that need to be replaced which they have refused to do as we don't have a big enough population to support the cost, they tell us. This after they laid all the fiber optic cable they needed to provide the lines.

The only bill I get from them now is for my phone line and I am stuck with that until the towers start operating.
 

Bar Sinister

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Did that guy ever go to jail, can't recall his name offhand. Come to think of it didn't he suffer a fatal accident?

No - one (David Walsh) died of a brain aneurism, and the other (John Felderhof) was found not guilty of insider trading.

Honor role mention: David Suzuki.

You will have to remind me what corporation David Suzuki works for.
 

petros

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I can't rmemeber who but a cell company has recently been caught nailing people on overbilling by quite a bit.
 

Omicron

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Hmm... well...

The corp exporting crystalline asbestos.

The government spokesperson's in the pockets of the owners rationalize it on the basis of job, when it's only 500 jobs... which is too small to count (how many jobs were lost when the cod fishery got starved out by corporate overfishing?), so it's obviously not about jobs... it's about the profits the mine owners are making selling their toxic mineral to nations with no regulation.

I was going to suggest any corp wrapped around the tar-sands, but if you look at bang-per job, nothing does as much damage as asbestos.

At which point I have the option of moving on, but I can't help it... I have a feeling that a lot of you don't know how asbestos causes cancer, and I can't stop myself from explaining it.

Asbestos is an interesting crystal. It is hollow-tubular, and when those tubes break off they are sharp and angular.

They are like microscopic needles, and if they get into your tissues, every time you move they get squeezed forward, piercing into whatever the next cell in their way is.

But here's the catch.

The diameter of their hollowness is just the right size for a papiloma or polyoma virus to hide in.

Why's that a problem?

Because what you don't know is that you are surrounded by trillions of naturally occurring virus capable of turning your cells cancerous if they could just get through the cell membrane.

Those viruses fit inside the hollow part of an asbestos tube perfectly, such that when an asbestos shard-needle cuts through a cell membrane, the p-viruses get in and go on a jolly holiday turning that cell cancerous.
 

JLM

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I stated that he did so in the interests of Canada. Whether they are to our advantage or not is open for debate.



And you are most welcome to your opinion, Cliffy - as am I to mine. :smile:



I will be sooooooo happy the day I am able to pull the plug on Telus. I cut them off as my long distance carrier years ago as soon as I heard about Yak - they are still calling me and sending all kinds of information in the mail trying to get me back. When I first connected to the net they were the only company in my area offering connections. I had nothing but trouble from day one with technical problems and they were of little or no help at all. As soon as I heard that a local server had opened in 100 Mile, I immediately switched to them and have never, ever had a single problem nor was the server ever down. That same company is now the one putting up towers in our area and there is an outside possibility that we could have high-speed connections this fall.

Telus has all the equipment they need to connect us to highspeed internet expect for some switches that need to be replaced which they have refused to do as we don't have a big enough population to support the cost, they tell us. This after they laid all the fiber optic cable they needed to provide the lines.

The only bill I get from them now is for my phone line and I am stuck with that until the towers start operating.

I kind of think they are all tarred with the same brush- my bills with Shaw keep getting higher and higher and my son has had nothing but problems with Virgin. ( the phone company that is) :lol: