Who gives to Charity?

NZDoug

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Why the hell would you donate money to any land run by genocidal terrorists? Especially when the people elected them? Albeit 14 years ago...........
That's the great thing about electing Islamists.
You only have to do it once.
https://shalom.kiwi/2015/11/kia-ora-gaza-is-a-hate-group/
This is NOT a charity.
Im a member of Kia Ora Gaza, and proud of it.
Roger Fowler is a librarian, not a political party.
Hes a good guy.
A guy who works in the library...
Who dreams up this crap?
Here is "Terrorism".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...es-investigation-international-criminal-court
I also support the I.D.F. veterans association "Breaking the Silence".
https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il
Also, Mondoweiss.
https://mondoweiss.kindful.com
People I have time for.
 

Colpy

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Im a member of Kia Ora Gaza, and proud of it.
Roger Fowler is a librarian, not a political party.
Hes a good guy.
A guy who works in the library...
Who dreams up this crap?
Here is "Terrorism".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...es-investigation-international-criminal-court
I also support the I.D.F. veterans association "Breaking the Silence".
https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il
Also, Mondoweiss.
https://mondoweiss.kindful.com
People I have time for.


Right.


The original Charter of Hamas, Article seven:



Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).​


Hamas is a genocidal organization, anti-democratic, Islamo-fascist, and fanatic.


Much like the Nazis.


Supporting them is the same as supporting the Nazis in Europe.


**** Godwin.


Neutrality in the situation I could understand, although in my view Israel is the frontier of western civilization in a savage land, and as a democratic, tolerant state deserves our support.


Support for those that support Hamas is either Jew hatred, or idiotic.
 

Danbones

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Right.
The original Charter of Hamas, Article seven:
Hamas is a genocidal organization, anti-democratic, Islamo-fascist, and fanatic.
Much like the Nazis.
Supporting them is the same as supporting the Nazis in Europe.
**** Godwin.
Neutrality in the situation I could understand, although in my view Israel is the frontier of western civilization in a savage land, and as a democratic, tolerant state deserves our support.
Support for those that support Hamas is either Jew hatred, or idiotic.
Got your new gaza is part of israel map yet doood?
:)
...and how many children's heads do you have on YOUR wall?

Oh well... ( unlike Palestinians) you have your guns in case they ever come here and take YOUR house I guess.

...and speaking of accusing OTHER people of nazi bla bla bla..take a look in the effin' mirror doood. Zionist Israel is what illegal welfare nazis do.

Supporting dumbocracy with ILLEGAL non NNPT signer welfare? Ha! Now that's a frickin' laugh. Real democracy pays for itself. It does not need illegal state welfare to survive.
 
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Colpy

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Got your new gaza is part of israel map yet doood?
:)
...and how many children's heads do you have on YOUR wall?

Oh well... ( unlike Palestinians) you have your guns in case they ever come here and take YOUR house I guess.

...and speaking of accusing OTHER people of nazi bla bla bla..take a look in the effin' mirror doood. Zionist Israel is what illegal welfare nazis do.

Supporting dumbocracy with ILLEGAL non NNPT signer welfare? Ha! Now that's a frickin' laugh. Real democracy pays for itself. It does not need illegal state welfare to survive.


Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005.


They forcibly took all their settlers with them.


They let it be known the same could happen in the West Bank, if the experiment was a success.


Instead, the infrastructure they left behind was destroyed, and Gaza instantly became a launch pad for attacks into Israel.


The only way the Jews in the ME can find peace is in death, which is what Hamas and Hezbollah have planned for them. All of them.


So pull your head out of your arse, and get with the anti-genocide program.
 

spilledthebeer

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Where did I indicate that I think a sixteen year old who murders is too young to understand about what he did was wrong?




POOR STUPID Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You INDICATE quite a few things...........................................


on a REGULAR BASIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



right along with the LIE-berals you so staunchly and STUPIDLY SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good LIE-berals think a 16 year old is NOT RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is why LIE-berals have taken so much flak over their much despised Young Offenders Act!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And just like a good LIE-beral............................................


you back track and OBFUSCATE when you are confronted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Fascinating piece in today's Globe and Mail by Margaret Wente. The subject of who gives to charilty belies the Conventional Wisdon, and should destroy the image of the oh-so-concerned liberal latte-slurping do-gooder.

First of all, Americans give a LOT more than Canadians. They are much more generous.........twice as generous, in fact.


That was one of the first things that struck me about 40 years when I started taking fairly regular trips to the Western U.S. Not sure if that's the way it is generally but it certainly has held true through the years in restaurants, bars and casinos. About 15 years ago I had a flat tire on the 5th Wheel and pulled into a Les Schwabs in Spokane to get it repaired. NO CHARGE! I've had literally dozens of similar experiences over the years in the U.S.
 

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Geez one would think Canada is a poor nation with a terrible standard of living!! The difference between Liberals and conservatives is perfectly obvious from the names.
That statement exposes the shallowness of your opinion and nothing more.

Liberals are generous sometimes to a fault ... they actually feel that those who pay taxes should benefit from the spending of them. Also they tend to feel giving those less fortunate than ourselves a helping hand is a good thing.
A few of my friends are of the liberal persuasion and they are no more or less generous than those who are NDP, Conservative or Green.

Conservatives usually feel the top 1,2,or 3 percent of the richest should pay little or no taxes. They certainly prefer little or no health care for those who pay the taxes and certainly the last Conservative elected here was gender biased and would of restricted birth control and remove abortion access if he could have!! However, since women have a say he prudently backed off.
Obviously not being a Conservative how can you possibly know what us Conservatives do or do not feel. The rest of your rant is just that and appears to be aimed at one person with whom you take umbrage.

Every time the Conservatives get elected they spend us into war or poverty and it takes a Liberal as long to get the economy back on track. Which party traditional cuts back as many of the social services it dares?? Conservatives!! Do you enjoy watching the Conservative/Republican now busily destroying every program set out by the previous Liberal/Democratic government it followed??
'they spend us into war or poverty'. Who is 'us'.


My opinion of some contributors to this forum plumettes?sp.daily What is the matter with you people!!
Plummets.
You, of course, are entitled to your 'opinion' but do not expect to have it go unchallenged especially when making wildly erroneous claims.
 

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Quote" Mowich Obviously not being a Conservative how can you possibly know what us Conservatives do or do not feel. The rest of your rant is just that and appears to be aimed at one person with whom you take umbrage."

Well let's see now...How about guns...Are not the Conservatives/Repubicans for the freedom to own any kind of weapon they choose without decent laws? How do most conservatives feel about women's rights? I know the last one elected wanted the abortion laws rescinded and would have removed the right of women's access to birth control.

Exactly how do most Conservative governments feel about government supported medicare, support of veteran programs, child support, even welfare for the poor, disabled etc. As soon as they are elected ....those are the programs they cut back on! The middle class is taxed to the hilt and the rich get tax breaks.

Thank goodness in Canada we have more than two choices, it keeps both main parties under control when they get the same disasterous notions.

Oh! and "us" is we the people, you know the ones who do the electing of those who applied to get the job of running the country and the ones who are paying their salaries!!.
 
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Quote" Mowich Obviously not being a Conservative how can you possibly know what us Conservatives do or do not feel. The rest of your rant is just that and appears to be aimed at one person with whom you take umbrage."

Well let's see now...How about guns...Are not the Conservatives/Repubicans for the freedom to own any kind of weapon they choose without decent laws? How do most conservatives feel about women's rights? I know the last one elected wanted the abortion laws rescinded and would have removed the right of women's access to birth control.

Exactly how do most Conservative governments feel about government supported medicare, support of veteran programs, child support, even welfare for the poor, disabled etc. As soon as they are elected ....those are the programs they cut back on! The middle class is taxed to the hilt and the rich get tax breaks.

Thank goodness in Canada we have more than two choices, it keeps both main parties under control when they get the same disasterous notions.

Oh! and "us" is we the people, you know the ones who do the electing of those who applied to get the job of running the country and the ones who are paying their salaries!!.
The last one elected was PM with a majority parliament and did not touch abortion . But what does that have to do with charity ?
 

pgs

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The last one elected was PM with a majority parliament and did not touch abortion . But what does that have to do with charity ?
As for the rest reread Mowich’s post about going unchallenged on wildly erroneous claims . Cutting government bureaucracy is not the same as cutting services .
 

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Quote" Mowich Obviously not being a Conservative how can you possibly know what us Conservatives do or do not feel. The rest of your rant is just that and appears to be aimed at one person with whom you take umbrage."
Well let's see now...How about guns...Are not the Conservatives/Repubicans for the freedom to own any kind of weapon they choose without decent laws? How do most conservatives feel about women's rights? I know the last one elected wanted the abortion laws rescinded and would have removed the right of women's access to birth control.
Exactly how do most Conservative governments feel about government supported medicare, support of veteran programs, child support, even welfare for the poor, disabled etc. As soon as they are elected ....those are the programs they cut back on! The middle class is taxed to the hilt and the rich get tax breaks.
Thank goodness in Canada we have more than two choices, it keeps both main parties under control when they get the same disasterous notions.
Oh! and "us" is we the people, you know the ones who do the electing of those who applied to get the job of running the country and the ones who are paying their salaries!!.
Umm no. GO read something factual for a change.
 

spilledthebeer

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Quote" Mowich Obviously not being a Conservative how can you possibly know what us Conservatives do or do not feel. The rest of your rant is just that and appears to be aimed at one person with whom you take umbrage."

Well let's see now...How about guns...Are not the Conservatives/Repubicans for the freedom to own any kind of weapon they choose without decent laws? How do most conservatives feel about women's rights? I know the last one elected wanted the abortion laws rescinded and would have removed the right of women's access to birth control.

Exactly how do most Conservative governments feel about government supported medicare, support of veteran programs, child support, even welfare for the poor, disabled etc. As soon as they are elected ....those are the programs they cut back on! The middle class is taxed to the hilt and the rich get tax breaks.

Thank goodness in Canada we have more than two choices, it keeps both main parties under control when they get the same disasterous notions.

Oh! and "us" is we the people, you know the ones who do the electing of those who applied to get the job of running the country and the ones who are paying their salaries!!.






POOR STUPID Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cherry picking through a pile of issues..............................................


many of which relate ONLY to Yankees......................................


meaning A FOREIGN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NOT RELATED to Cdn issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your LIES and half truth will NOT save Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not when civil service union HOGS perform their work like this::::::::::::::::::












Here is yet another damning article condemning the Child Welfare people! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Child Welfare opened files on Charlie but never once met the neglected, starving boy! He reached this pitiful state despite MCFD knowing about him and his desperate family situation for a decade.

Dr. Jennifer Charlesworth, the B.C. Representative for Children and Youth, presented her damning report, Alone and Afraid, to the B.C. legislature this week. Office of the Representative for Children and Youth in British Columbia.

By Christie Blatchford

Published: December 11, 2018, 4:11 PM EST.

Filed under: Full Comment/ Post Media

To the searing annals of wholesale child-welfare failures across the country — Sara Podniewicz, Jordan Heikamp, Matthew Vaudreuil, Phoenix Sinclair, Jeffrey Baldwin are just those cases I personally covered and/or have written about — we can now add the name of Charlie, from British Columbia.

Charlie is the pseudonym given him by Dr. Jennifer Charlesworth, the B.C. Representative for Children and Youth, in her damning report, Alone and Afraid, to the B.C. legislature this week.

She had to use a pseudonym because Charlie, unlike the other children I’ve named, lived.

He was rescued — saved — by police and paramedics who on Jan. 20, 2016 arrived at Charlie’s home, alerted by a concerned citizen who had called the Ministry of Children and Family Development (MCFD) to report her fears for the little boy.

He answered the door, a naked, grotesquely malnourished 12-year-old who weighed 65 pounds and whose wasted frame was covered in dirt, sores and small bruises and notable for its protruding bones. The mere sight of him left the first responders traumatized. Charlie was all alone of course, and while the rest of the house was tidy, his room was covered in garbage and smeared with fecal matter.

They rushed him to hospital. He clung to the paramedics.

As Charlesworth noted, he reached this pitiful state — a special needs child, with autism, who nonetheless as the three years since demonstrate capable of so much — despite MCFD knowing about him and his desperate family situation for a decade.

It was in 2006 that police first alerted the ministry.

But over the next 10 years, despite a total of eight reports from concerned school principals, a hospital social worker, BC Children’s Hospital, nurses and others that Charlie was being neglected and that his mother couldn’t or wouldn’t care for him, not one of the myriad of child-protection workers and supervisors who were involved with the family ever once saw the little boy.

Instead, they busied themselves by reading Charlie’s file.

They consulted with peers.

Sometimes, they made phone calls.

They consulted with their supervisors.

Once in a while, they even deigned to make a “home visit.”

(A SANE person would have to ask what is the good of a “home visit” if you do not ever get to SEE the child you are allegedly worried about?? And if you never actually see the filthy room he is living in???????????)

(But then there is HARD EVIDENCE that Child Welfare civil service union HOGS would NOT have taken any real action anyway! The day before Sara Podniewicz DIED of Pnemonia caused by breathing difficulties from her BROKEN RIBS- a Welfare Hog CAME TO THE HOUSE in Parkdale- and met with the kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

During the meeting the Hog put a bracelet onto the girls ankle- WITHOUT NOTICING the leg was BROKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Sometimes, Charlie was even there, but there is no evidence, Charlesworth says, that any one of these workers actually saw — in the literal, clamped-eyes-upon sense — Charlie. His mother would say he was sleeping. Or that he was anxious about strangers. Or that he was playing in another room.

Now and then a worker would actually look around the home, but never did one venture into Charlie’s room.

One worker tried six times to contact Charlie’s mother by phone, unsuccessfully. She made a busy little plan to conduct a home visit. Then she went on vacation.

In her absence, no one did a thing.

Another worker called Charlie’s mom before closing the file. Mom reported that things were going along swimmingly. The child-protection worker didn’t speak with the pediatrician or any of the other people who were supposedly involved in Charlie’s care before consulting with her team leader, who of course approved closing the file.

The worker “had still never seen Charlie” nor spoken to his often-absent father or his older brother.

Yet, nonetheless, the worker sent the mom a closing letter on June 16, 2008, cheerfully telling her she was “doing an incredible job, a job that so many of us could never do, even with all the services you were lacking.”

(Gosh! Praising the Mom like that illustrates an even more delusional mindset than that of Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals who told us repeatedly all was well even as they turned Ontari-owe into the most indebted sub national political entity on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

With all the respect it deserves — none — how the hell would the worker know that? She’d never seen the boy.

It was not as though Charlie was ever doing well.

When he was four, his parents (the father had yet to be given the boot from the house) finally took him to a doctor because he was bleeding from the mouth; of course he was, because his teeth were rotting. The doctor prescribed penicillin and referred him to a dentist at the Children’s Hospital and for an autism assessment.

Alas, if his parents got the penicillin, they took it, because Charlie never got it and the infection raged until he stopped being able to walk.

Most of his baby teeth had to be removed. He was always, at best, painfully thin and pale. His legs were swollen.

At the hospital, various professionals referred Charlie’s parents to various other professionals and services and benefit programs, and though a counsellor worked for a time with Charlie’s mother, the file was eventually closed.

(How much of this close the file crap is an unspoken admission that NOTHING CAN BE DONE because of the LIE-beral commitment to keeping the family together at virtually ANY PRICE?? LIE-berals insist the Morther/child bond is sacred even as the Mother is killing the kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only way to save the kid is to take him away from the scumbag Mom and LIE-berals REFUSE to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

They might just as well have been speaking in pig Latin.

At various points, there were concerns that Charlie’s parents were using cocaine and later, when the boy was finally apprehended from his mother and blood tests revealed crystal meth in her system, why, she was “shocked.”

(Oh? Drugs were involved? Such a surprise! The mother of Sara Podniewicz was working as a hooker in Parkdale to keep herself and hubby supplied with crack and it is likely that Sara was seen as the child of one of her Johns and thus was disposable- although the welfare money given for her was HANDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The boy is now living in foster care and is back in school.

There are staggering similarities with Charlie’s case and the others I mentioned — clear signs of neglect being ignored; social workers’ and the agency’s obsession with paperwork over people; most gallingly, the repeated failure to understand that in child welfare, the child is the freaking client, not the parent, however sad he or she may be.

(LIE-berals would rather see a child DIE than set up an “adversarial relationship” between parent and child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Child protection is no easy business, nor is it for the faint of heart. But for all the value of Charlesworth’s tough investigation, she and I part company where, early on, she said, “This report is not meant to cast blame on individual social workers or their supervisors,” but rather to shine a light on the problems.

(Oh yes- the problem is the LIE-beral interpretation of the law- that dictates that a BAD MOM is better than no Mom! And of course blame DOES COME BACK to the civil service union HOGS because they prefer LIE-beral gravy over common sense and legal logic and vote accordingly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

What happened to Charlie has happened too many times in Canada, to too many children, is so well-known and understood that the light is blinding. It is well past time to cast blame; God knows, there’s enough to go around, and around again.

(Our Child Welfare system has been colonized by the same sort of social justice warriors that Professor Jordan Peterson warned us were operating in our arts, political science and Women`s Studies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The Social Justice Warriors are out to rebuild our society into a Brave New World in their own POISONED IMAGE!! They want to build a dictatorship where the only things that works fast and effectively are LIE-beral govt propaganda ministry and the Human Rights Kangaroo Courts that will be used to SILENCE CRITICS of LIE-beral govt and the greed and mismanagement of civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

spilledthebeer

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The last one elected was PM with a majority parliament and did not touch abortion . But what does that have to do with charity ?




It is the usual TWISTED LIE-beral logic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are still stinging over being laughed at so hard by the public.................................


because the "Harper Hidden Agenda" NEVER APPEARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not even after 10 years in office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have such a short attention span and are so logic challenged that they do not understand why their Fake News is being scorned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now LIE-berals are being stung over their EXPOSED shameless agenda.........................................


the NO LONGER HIDDEN agenda that is attacking "white privilege"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And bankrupting the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For the most SELFISH of reasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So that LIE-berals can cling to power at any price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are too corrupt to lead......................................


and too stupid to follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

bluebyrd35

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As for the rest reread Mowich’s post about going unchallenged on wildly erroneous claims . Cutting government bureaucracy is not the same as cutting services .
LOL Read & weep




https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...g_social_programs_built_over_generations.html

Oh and aren't they mostly Conservative Canadians who feel there should be less gun control? ,,,,,,, or as I, personally consider the US gun laws ........The easiest way of population control without giving females their right to control their own destinies., As far as Harper's majority government was concerned .....if you think for one minute the female population in Canada would have permitted Harper to rescind our rights, you are a dumb redneck..

Well I am sure I have changed no opinions but what the heck......
 
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LOL Read & weep




https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...g_social_programs_built_over_generations.html

Oh and aren't they mostly Conservative Canadians who feel there should be less gun control? ,,,,,,, or as I, personally consider the US gun laws ........The easiest way of population control without giving females their right to control their own destinies., As far as Harper's majority government was concerned .....if you think for one minute the female population in Canada would have permitted Harper to rescind our rights, you are a dumb redneck..

Well I am sure I have changed no opinions but what the heck......
Is it right to kill babies ?