White poppy denigrates remembrance: Legion

shadowshiv

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actually, no I don't.... and I'm fine with that, for one day.... not the whole frickin month.

Unless the posts went way over the top, I would see no reason for you not to be able to post the other days of November.

And I sincerely thank you for respecting our wishes for that day, gerry.
 

gerryh

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And I sincerely thank you for respecting our wishes for that day, gerry.


and you can thank Karrie and Zan for that...... hard ta say no when those 2 sexy ladies threaten ta tear yer nuts off and feed em to ya if ya don't stop....lol
 

shadowshiv

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and you can thank Karrie and Zan for that...... hard ta say no when those 2 sexy ladies threaten ta tear yer nuts off and feed em to ya if ya don't stop....lol

You mean the batting of my eyes had no effect on your icy heart?


In all seriousness, I see your point. They are impossible to resist.
 

Praxius

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I think everybody should be able to exercise free speech, but following Praxius' logic and common sense, they shouldn't be able to bastardise the red poppy campaign. Look at it this way:



It's a very crude illustration I put together, the first thing that came to mind. But do you think Pepsi would be allowed to market themselves with Coke's distinctive design? I think not.

Actually since I do work for Pepsi on a regular basis, your above example is a good one.... the above wouldn't be allowed not just by Coca Cola, but Pepsi wouldn't tolerate the above either since it does not conform to their logo standards, not to mention a conflict of copyright.

Even though the Poppy campaign isn't some super commercialized product people buy day to day throughout the year, the same legal and copyright constraints still exist with their logo and identity as it exists for any other registered brand, company or product.

By the way, Pepsi no longer uses that font anymore ;-)

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but.... this has been going on since the 20's... did either one of them register the mark exclusively?

In the original article, "Ross said the Legion owns the rights to the poppy symbol"

Based on that, I'll assume they did register it..... any type of logo, slogan or identity that any organization uses is typically registered and copyrighted prior to the company making anything, let alone distributing anything of their product..... usually it's one of the first things a company or organization is supposed to do before they do anything else. (One of the things)
 

DaSleeper

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The sale of white poppies should rise and fall on it's own commercial merits.....unless of course it infringes on copyright laws...
If you don't like them don't buy them or do like some do,....say, I would buy one at any other time of the year but not today.
 

Praxius

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Related News:

Legion may sue over white poppy campaign
Legion may sue over white poppy campaign - CTV News

The Royal Canadian Legion is mulling whether to launch a lawsuit if groups in Prince Edward Island and Ontario do not stop handing out white poppies ahead of Remembrance Day.

On the East Coast, an organization called the Island Peace Committee has been handing out white poppies, which are supposed to represent peaceful conflict resolution. The Ottawa Poppy Coalition has been distributing them in Ottawa.

But the Legion has taken issue with the campaign, calling it an insult to veterans and a possible breach of copyright.

"It's simply a trademark issue," said Legion spokesperson Bob Butt. "We own the trademark on the poppy."

"It's remembrance season, it's not peace season," he added. "If they want to distribute something they can distribute a dove."

:lol:

White poppies were first adopted by British widows after the First World War, and they have been used regularly there for decades. But the reappearance of the white poppy in Canada over the past few years has caused growing controversy.

The Legion has written to organizations involved with the white poppy campaign, ordering them to stop distributing them and threatening legal action if they don't.

Brenda Vellino, with the Ottawa Poppy Coalition, said that while her father and grandfather were both soldiers, she has been promoting the white poppy to as a way to remember civilians who have died in war.

"I'd say it has a peace message, it's a peace education message," she said.

For a second year, the coalition is planning to lay a white poppy wreathes at the National War Memorial in Ottawa once Remembrance Day ceremonies are over.

They cite climbing civilian casualties in war as a motivation for the campaign.

"The white poppy is symbol of resistance, a way of saying ‘war is not an option, we've got to break the cycle of violence,'" said author and activist Heather Menzies.

At least one soldier, Maj. Peter McRae, said he has no problem with the colour difference.

"I'm not the least bit offended by people remembering in any way they choose to remember," he said.