Where is the old, cynical media of the Harper era?

Locutus

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Where is the old, cynical media of the Harper era?
It would be cartoonish to say that Stephen Harper avoided the media at all cost. But what he did attempt was discipline toward consistent messaging from his government - a discipline that often created an impression of secrecy. Looking back now, that approach was salutary for both sides. It protected the government from the bane of contradictory messaging that has already occurred under the new administration. And it allowed the media to do their job and scrutinize government policy.
I'm just waiting for the national media to be more like the Saskatchewan media and realize the self-appointed role of 'Official Opposition' should actually come into play when the real Opposition parties are in disarray and rudderless.


mo

EDITORIAL: Where is the old, cynical media of the Harper era? - The Prince Arthur Herald | The Prince Arthur Herald
 

Angstrom

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Harper should have ran fluff shiny pony talking points.

Just to keep them busy :lol:

Lesson learnt ;)
 

tay

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Think Canada is a progressive paradise?


Quick – picture Canada.

What comes to mind? A progressive wonderland of polite manners and majestic moose? What America might be if it evolved a little? That place you’ll move to if Trump wins?

If that’s what you think, that’s fine by us. In fact, it’s our brand: not America. The nice guys. Dull, kind and harmless. That’s how we like to be thought of.

But it’s moosesh*t.

We are not the country you think we are. We never have been.

The first prime minister and founding father of Canada, John A Macdonald, was a raging alcoholic. He spent entire campaigns fabulously drunk and once vomited on stage during a stump speech. When his rival pointed it out, Macdonald shot back that he hadn’t puked because of booze, but because he had been “forced to listen to the ranting of my honourable opponent”. It was a deflection worthy of Trump. Macdonald handily won the election.

Americans looking to Canada as a liberal paradise in the age of Trump should remember its recent struggles with the same divisions of race, class and culture

The reason the Royal Canadian Mounted Police ride horses is because during the labour movement of the 30s, horseback was the best way to trample protesting immigrants and miners. By the 60s, the horses were mostly just for show and the Mounties’ regular activities included subjecting suspected homosexuals to the “Fruit Machine”, a device designed to measure erotic responses to gay porn.

These days, Canada is the second-largest arms exporter to the Middle East. Our Alberta oil sands produce more carbon emissions each year than the entire state of California. Our intelligence agency is allowed to act on information obtained through torture. And a lot of French Canadians are into blackface comedy.
It’s nice to be thought of as the world’s nice guys. And it’s useful – it obscures a lot of dirt
Little of this is widely known, because we happen to share a border with America. When your next-door neighbour is a billionaire celebrity genius with automatic weapons and an undying need for attention, you can get away with all sorts of stuff. It’s nice to be thought of as the world’s nice guys. And it’s useful – it obscures a lot of dirt.

Last year, Canadians almost came to terms with the lie in our branding. After a decade of the rightwing Harper government, with its pro-oil, anti-science and anti-Muslim ideas, it had become difficult to maintain our sense of smug superiority.

In this disillusionment, there was opportunity. If we wanted to reclaim our reputation as a just and caring and helpful society, perhaps we could try behaving like one. During our 2015 election, everything from electoral and environmental reform to international peacekeeping was put back on the table, and we dared to open our eyes (just a peek) to the neglected, remote indigenous communities where suicide rates are shockingly high and access to untainted drinking water is shamefully low. There was a sense that Canada was ready to grow up and forge a national identity based on what we do, not on who we aren’t.

Instead, we elected Justin Trudeau, a social media savant who has positioned himself, and by extension Canada, as a sunny chaser to the world’s bitter news. Trudeau is the political equivalent of a YouTube puppy video. After your daily barrage of Trump and terror, you can settle your jangled nerves with his comforting memes.

Each week, Trudeau feeds the news cycle a new sharable moment, and our Facebook feeds are overwhelmed with shots of the adorable young statesman cuddling pandas and hugging refugees and getting accidentally photographed in the wild with his top off, twice.

For international audiences, the Justin moment has been a harmless diversion. For Canadians, it’s a dangerous distraction. Canadians care far more about what Americans think of us than we do about Canadian politics. Little wonder that things remain so grim.

Despite Trudeau’s progressive branding, Canada is right where Stephen Harper left us. It’s been a year since the election, and we’re still selling arms to Saudi Arabia, still cutting $36bn from healthcare and still basing our economy on fossil fuel extraction, and running roughshod over indigenous rights to do so.

Canada’s moment would likely have lapsed by now if not for the American election. The comparison of Trump v Trudeau is just too rich for the press to resist. Canada has a dashing Disney prince for a ruler, and the US is considering this guy? The Washington Post dubbed Trudeau “the anti-Trump”. Every idle threat to move to Canada if Trump wins has been treated as a major news event by the Canadian press.

(A note to my fellow Canadians on that: when an American says that they’ll move to Canada if Trump wins, it’s like when the head cheerleader tells the arrogant quarterback that he’s so conceited, she’d sooner date Urkel. Urkel may swoon to hear his name coming from a pretty girl’s lips. But it’s not really a compliment, and she’s never really going to date him.)

Last week an opportunistic Canadian ad firm sent America a sh*t-eating YouTube sympathy card, in which a handful of pasty Canadians assured their beleaguered neighbors that despite you-know-who, we still think America’s great! The passive aggressive subtext is of course that we also think we’re a little bit better.

But we’re not. And for that, I’m sorry.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/21/canada-politics-progressive-liberal-trudeau
 

Danbones

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those are corporate tactics
its a global thing

if americans can't handle the results of the election but critisize trump for doughting the results based on the actual evidence of chicanery that we do have
we don't want them here
we still get american tv up here
it screws some of the slower ones up some

we don't need any more people slower then that even

like when hillary said there is no election fraud but the Russians are influencing the election
well you have to know they are beyond FUBAR and should be contained

maybe they should all join Madonna and offer voters blow jobs
 
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Murphy

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I worked for Mr. Harper in his early daze, when he ran a deli in Calgary.

"Snails," he said to me, "do not like the cold weather, so don't ever let them out in the winter. They'll freeze to death. I learned that the hard way. I'll never forget when the postman knocked on the front door with a handful of letters and three dead snails."

Harper looked at me with tears in his eyes.

"I killed them! Oh, I know what you're thinking. They're only snails. But what would have happened if they were hamsters? My brother used to let hamster loose outside in the winter and after they stiffened up, he put them in the freeze and save them until summer. Do you know why people from the Middle East have darker skin? So they contrast against the sand and are easier to see..."

I could see he was crushed, and gave him a reassuring, sad smile.

"You wouldn't be giving my that look. So I said to myself, 'Steve, you're never going to do that again!' And I never did. I was so ashamed of myself, but my brother still freezes animals. Now, it's cats..."

I knew that it was hard for him to talk about, and I understood why he didn't speak much to the media. If they ever found out about his past...
 
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Curious Cdn

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If they ever found out about his past...

Which one?

Barrista in a gay Cafe or Canadian Taxpayer's Federation?
 

Murphy

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Probably the cafe one. He used to hire immigrants to work in the restaurant until he discovered that they never washed. From that day on, he was against immigration and dirt.
 

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Think Canada is a progressive paradise?


Quick – picture Canada.

What comes to mind? A progressive wonderland of polite manners and majestic moose? What America might be if it evolved a little? That place you’ll move to if Trump wins?

If that’s what you think, that’s fine by us. In fact, it’s our brand: not America. The nice guys. Dull, kind and harmless. That’s how we like to be thought of.

But it’s moosesh*t.

We are not the country you think we are. We never have been.

The first prime minister and founding father of Canada, John A Macdonald, was a raging alcoholic. He spent entire campaigns fabulously drunk and once vomited on stage during a stump speech. When his rival pointed it out, Macdonald shot back that he hadn’t puked because of booze, but because he had been “forced to listen to the ranting of my honourable opponent”. It was a deflection worthy of Trump. Macdonald handily won the election.

Americans looking to Canada as a liberal paradise in the age of Trump should remember its recent struggles with the same divisions of race, class and culture

The reason the Royal Canadian Mounted Police ride horses is because during the labour movement of the 30s, horseback was the best way to trample protesting immigrants and miners. By the 60s, the horses were mostly just for show and the Mounties’ regular activities included subjecting suspected homosexuals to the “Fruit Machine”, a device designed to measure erotic responses to gay porn.

These days, Canada is the second-largest arms exporter to the Middle East. Our Alberta oil sands produce more carbon emissions each year than the entire state of California. Our intelligence agency is allowed to act on information obtained through torture. And a lot of French Canadians are into blackface comedy.
It’s nice to be thought of as the world’s nice guys. And it’s useful – it obscures a lot of dirt
Little of this is widely known, because we happen to share a border with America. When your next-door neighbour is a billionaire celebrity genius with automatic weapons and an undying need for attention, you can get away with all sorts of stuff. It’s nice to be thought of as the world’s nice guys. And it’s useful – it obscures a lot of dirt.

Last year, Canadians almost came to terms with the lie in our branding. After a decade of the rightwing Harper government, with its pro-oil, anti-science and anti-Muslim ideas, it had become difficult to maintain our sense of smug superiority.

In this disillusionment, there was opportunity. If we wanted to reclaim our reputation as a just and caring and helpful society, perhaps we could try behaving like one. During our 2015 election, everything from electoral and environmental reform to international peacekeeping was put back on the table, and we dared to open our eyes (just a peek) to the neglected, remote indigenous communities where suicide rates are shockingly high and access to untainted drinking water is shamefully low. There was a sense that Canada was ready to grow up and forge a national identity based on what we do, not on who we aren’t.

Instead, we elected Justin Trudeau, a social media savant who has positioned himself, and by extension Canada, as a sunny chaser to the world’s bitter news. Trudeau is the political equivalent of a YouTube puppy video. After your daily barrage of Trump and terror, you can settle your jangled nerves with his comforting memes.

Each week, Trudeau feeds the news cycle a new sharable moment, and our Facebook feeds are overwhelmed with shots of the adorable young statesman cuddling pandas and hugging refugees and getting accidentally photographed in the wild with his top off, twice.

For international audiences, the Justin moment has been a harmless diversion. For Canadians, it’s a dangerous distraction. Canadians care far more about what Americans think of us than we do about Canadian politics. Little wonder that things remain so grim.

Despite Trudeau’s progressive branding, Canada is right where Stephen Harper left us. It’s been a year since the election, and we’re still selling arms to Saudi Arabia, still cutting $36bn from healthcare and still basing our economy on fossil fuel extraction, and running roughshod over indigenous rights to do so.

Canada’s moment would likely have lapsed by now if not for the American election. The comparison of Trump v Trudeau is just too rich for the press to resist. Canada has a dashing Disney prince for a ruler, and the US is considering this guy? The Washington Post dubbed Trudeau “the anti-Trump”. Every idle threat to move to Canada if Trump wins has been treated as a major news event by the Canadian press.

(A note to my fellow Canadians on that: when an American says that they’ll move to Canada if Trump wins, it’s like when the head cheerleader tells the arrogant quarterback that he’s so conceited, she’d sooner date Urkel. Urkel may swoon to hear his name coming from a pretty girl’s lips. But it’s not really a compliment, and she’s never really going to date him.)

Last week an opportunistic Canadian ad firm sent America a sh*t-eating YouTube sympathy card, in which a handful of pasty Canadians assured their beleaguered neighbors that despite you-know-who, we still think America’s great! The passive aggressive subtext is of course that we also think we’re a little bit better.

But we’re not. And for that, I’m sorry.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/21/canada-politics-progressive-liberal-trudeau
I think you need to check out some of your facts.

Or your sources?
 

Murphy

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I miss the old daze when you could bribe a page or a commissionaire on Parliament Hill and get a good seat in front of the Speaker of the House. Tommy Douglas did that for years.

Tommy always took the time to speak to the media, even if they didn't want to talk to him. And he used to help the young pages put out mouse traps in the basement under the HofC. Well, until he became too sick to do that.

He used to check and make sure the traps were put out by boucing an India rubber ball down the basement stairs and listen for some of the traps to snap shut when the ball touched them. Old Tommy was a card, and not a shrinking violet.
 

Kreskin

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The media is busy reporting on the massive infrastructure projects in progress.