When will Doomsday?
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It seems that the cult molds members minds to a point that they actually encapsulate themselves. In doing so they also tend to encapsulate everything else. And from this tunnel it is impossible to understand the uniqueness and individuality of people. Everyone is an object to classify. That's what religion does. Especially this group.
Maybe this is why people can murder innocents. Because they cannot see the value of a human,,,they only see an object.
No, they are bad before God.
In other words, you will have no excuse that you were not aware or were oblivious about the Quran and its teachings.
In other words, if you do not believe, your punishment in the Next Life will be justified.
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The explanation: there is much debate and wrangling among people in the West and East, who is better the Eastern or the Western?
Some say: the Muslims are better, others say: no the West are better from humanity aspect and their kindness to animals, ..etc.
While to God, all of them are His servants; He created them all.
Moreover, the West has defeated the Muslim countries, and our countries have been occupied; so is the West better and therefore God made them victorious over Muslims?
As such the discussion and debate goes on..
Some said: Muslims are neglecting their duty of the 'exclusive devotion to God alone' and they fell in the enthusiasm about imams and sheikhs and they wrong each other, and therefore God - be glorified - set the West on them.
Others added: it is like the blind and the seer: Muslims have the Quran but they do not applyit. While the West may be excused because they are not aware about the Quran, and therefore they may be excused.
So now the true interpretation of the Quran will be displayed before all people whether Western or Eastern, and all of them are God's servants: and God will guide whomever He please and misguide whomever He will.
For this reason, most of Muslims now do not believe in this interpretation and prefer to stick to their traditions.
And whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims, they will be examined altogether by this way.
So if they believe it is OK and if not God Himself will deal with them.
But you admit the fact you are putting people up for failure before God because you made them 'aware' of the Quran and because they don't believe they will be sent to hell, etc.
You're doing the same things Christians do. But then Islam and Christianity are very similar.
The fear and guilt tactic is somewhat similar but I do believe the fundamentalist extremist element would be the majority in Islam and probably the minority in Christianity. This is off the top of my head I'm no expert.
... Not to mention serious misogyny to the point of hating women and considering them to be merely breeding stock.
Precisely.
Precisely.
Well, that is a result of being a younger cult, I think. Christianity went through its draconian and bloody period in its history. Perhaps the witch-hunters and inquisitors of Islam will eventually grow up a little , too. I think it will take longer than Christianity did to grow up and calm down, though. And that is because Muslims insist on following the ramblings of the lunatic pedophile, Mohammed.
That, too. But it is not simply misogyny, it is also gynophobia. As the men have such weak willpower, they fear women constantly. And they have good reason because if women ever did gain equality, some would exact revenge for past oppression and slavery.
Islam, Christianity and Judaism originally are the same; but the distortion of the previous heavenly books caused a great variation and divisions.
Moreover, I cannot send anyone including myself to Paradise (or Heaven) or to Hell. This is up to God, and not even up to anyone else: like Jesus, Mohammed, Ali or Moses or anyone else.
But the one who does not respond to God's Quran will go to Hell in the Next Life, and will be a loser.
I only follow the instruction of the Quran by inviting others to God alone without associate.
I do like that all people believe and be one nation following the creed of Prophet Abraham: the exclusive devotion to God alone; but this is not by my hand; even not in the hand of Prophet Mohammed and all the other prophets.
Quran 6: 48-49
{48. We send not the Envoys [: the messengers] but only as bearers of good tidings a, and [as] warners b.
So those who believe c and reform [themselves] d – no fear [of devils] shall come on them [in the Next Life], neither shall they sorrow [for departing from the life of the World.]
49. While those who deny Our signs [brought by Our messengers e] – the chastisement shall afflict them [in the Next Life] because of their disobedience f.}
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a Of the prosperity in Paradise, to those who devote themselves to God alone and obey Him.
b Of punishment to those who associate with God and disobey Him.
c With what the messengers bring.
d i.e. those who reform their acts and intention.
e And they do not believe in such signs.
f And their denial of the envoys or the messengers.
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
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the same heavenly book that says that the sun revolves around the earth. I see,,thank ye sir cametoe lumbago
On the other hand, the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly said to me once that:
Most of people in the West and elsewhere know about the Quran, and the Quran meaning has been translated to most of the languages of the world; so the argument is established against the disbelievers.
Even if they deny their awareness about the Quran, the Quran has in fact been translated to all the languages, and they had to study it during their life time in the World.
And the Quran invites people to worship God alone without associate, equal, son or parents.
Most of people in the West and elsewhere know about the Quran, and the Quran meaning has been translated to most of the languages of the world; so the argument is established against the disbelievers.
Even if they deny their awareness about the Quran, the Quran has in fact been translated to all the languages, and they had to study it during their life time in the World.
And the Quran invites people to worship God alone without associate, equal, son or parents.
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And now you are lying because you said previously that by exposing people to quotes of the Quran, you are thereby enabling people to 'know' the Quran and thus if they refuse to believe then they are going to Hell.
Where before they may not know anything and thus would be received by God and judged without knowledge of the Quran.
Ergo, you ARE sending people to Hell, on purpose, because you know no one here will likely choose to follow the Quran, yet it won't matter because they are already exposed to it.
I know about it enough to know what others have said.
I have no read it, nor do I intend to, even your entries I skip over the verses because I do not believe in following the words of Men who used religious belief to enslave others.
I do the same for Bible verses too so it's not just Quran exclusive.
I have my own faith, my own beliefs; what those are matters only to me and to God(s). If God(s) will judge me then it'll be so when it's my time. Until then I will have no Man judge me based on what he "Says" is the word of God.
Until I see ANY religious person glowing with Holy Light and prove themselves to actually BE the mouthpiece of God(s) then I don't believe a word they say.
I am not lying; it is as such. See the post #108
What I am trying is to let others know the true interpretation, the best interpretation of the Quran by one inspired by God, and by the man who did not graduate at any school, even not primary school, he only knew reading and writing Arabic, and in spite of this, he explained the ayat of the Quran, including the ayat that none could know their exact meaning.
You mean "by one inspired by Satan". Stop lying, you have been found out. Try telling the truth at least once.
This is the extreme misguidance: out of pride, haughtiness and self-conceit.
So you are like some of the Quraish men who demanded to be given heavenly books personally.
Or those who said: Shall we follow a mortal like ourselves; so they vexed proud in fact.
And this is the extreme stubbornness that you do not read any book, except what you yourself insist and desire.
It is up to you to choose whatever you like, but you are responsible about your choice.
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I disagree, the math disagrees with you as well. The death toll and the destruction of the last century overwhelmingly belongs to another group altogether. Of course they are human as well and often lauded as the highest attainment of civilization. The facts are not allowed to penetrate the mirage.
It's obvious then, there is no globally accepted definition of God. I of course have a direct connection to God, the one and only and nothing else but, and it has no equal and no associate, it has unending sons daughters and parents however.
Of course it applies to all.
{34: 24. Say: "Who provides for you from the [gaseous] heavens g [with the rain] and the earth [with the plant and fruit?]"
Say: "God [it is Who provides for you], and [you will see whether] I or you are on guidance or in obvious error." h
25. Say [to the disbelievers]: "You will not be judged concerning what [guilt] we have committed i, nor shall we be judged concerning what [guilt] you do." j}
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g Originally it is “from the heaven and the earth.” Which is like His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 10: 31, which means:
(Say [Mohammed, to these associaters and idolaters]:
"Who provides you [with the rain] from the sky and [with the plant and fruit out of] earth?) So the ‘sky’ or the ‘heaven’ here means the gaseous layers.
(Or who has power over the hearing [of your ears] and the sight [of your eyes, and can make you deaf and blind?])
And God – be glorified – said in the Quran 35: 3, which means:
(Is there any creator, apart from God, who provides for you out of the sky and the earth?)
And God – be glorified – said in the Quran 51: 22, which means:
(And in heaven are [the means of] your provision, and [the provision in Paradise] that you are promised with.)
Therefore, in these three ayat, the ‘sky’ or ‘heaven’ is mentioned in singular.
h i.e. you will know who is the misguided and who is the guided: we or you.
Similar to this in meaning is in the Quran 54: 26, which means:
(They shall surely know tomorrow [when the chastisement will come to them] who is the liar that covets!)
That is because they said to Prophet Salih: You are a coveting liar.
And as such did the pagan Arab: the associaters said to Prophet Mohammed: “You are misguided because you revile our gods.”
i If rejecting the idols is any crime, according to your opinion.
j But each one is responsible about his own work.
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.