Bottlenecking apparently. Petros must be a very lonely farmer to be necking with a bottle....must not have any sheep.
Wheat board monopoly to end
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Bottlenecking apparently. Petros must be a very lonely farmer to be necking with a bottle....must not have any sheep.
Could be that his sheep know what's coming when the rubber boots are in tow.. They might just be the fastest sheep in all of Canada.
Yup bottlenecking. Low volume means product can be consumed and processed on a small scale. Could one mill who put out a market call handle me and everyone else who showed up with a 70t truck full? How big would the mill have to be or how many mills would it take to process all the prairie wheat?
Ritz wrong to kill CWB
It will damage, perhaps fatally, the network of branchlines that provides loading sites for producer cars and the shortline railways that operate on them. Those producer cars saved Prairie farmers an average of $1,200 per railcar, money that will now be flowing to the grain companies.
By removing the CWB's regulated access to grainhandling facilities, the Harper government has left farmers to the tender mercies of the grain companies and railways.
In the short-term, the elimination of the single desk will also cost Canadian taxpayers million of dollars a year. The legislation calls for the Port of Churchill to be subsidized to the tune of $5 million a year to support grain shipment for five years and another $4 million over three years for maintenance.
In fact, the cost of winding up the CWB could cost taxpayers many more millions - in severance to employees, legal costs, etc. All this to get rid of a profitable enterprise that wasn't costing taxpayers a nickel.
So who will benefit? Not farmers, who will lose control of a marketing agency whose mandate is to get the best price for farmers, in exchange for the "freedom" to sell to grain companies that are in business to make money for shareholders, not producers.
Not taxpayers, who will be footing the bill for the winding down of the CWB for years. Not rural communities, which risk losing branchlines and the shortline railways that service them.
Who benefits? The grain companies, the railways, and the ideologues in the Harper government.
By removing the CWB's regulated access to grainhandling facilities, the Harper government has left farmers to the tender mercies of the grain companies and railways.
In the short-term, the elimination of the single desk will also cost Canadian taxpayers million of dollars a year. The legislation calls for the Port of Churchill to be subsidized to the tune of $5 million a year to support grain shipment for five years and another $4 million over three years for maintenance.
In fact, the cost of winding up the CWB could cost taxpayers many more millions - in severance to employees, legal costs, etc. All this to get rid of a profitable enterprise that wasn't costing taxpayers a nickel.
So who will benefit? Not farmers, who will lose control of a marketing agency whose mandate is to get the best price for farmers, in exchange for the "freedom" to sell to grain companies that are in business to make money for shareholders, not producers.
Not taxpayers, who will be footing the bill for the winding down of the CWB for years. Not rural communities, which risk losing branchlines and the shortline railways that service them.
Who benefits? The grain companies, the railways, and the ideologues in the Harper government.
You must hear lots of things rattling inside that empty noggin. If it sounded like seperatist wheat it was merely your imagination.
When consolidation happens the end result is very few small family farms. Salmon farming used to be many small farms, now it's huge multinational companies that have fully integrated businesses from top to bottom, from salmon egg all the way to the grocery store. Value added products too.
Large farms are growing in number, and small farms are decreasing. Costs are going up, even while commodity prices go up... and now the small farmers will have that much less in their corner.
Large farms are growing in number, and small farms are decreasing. Costs are going up, even while commodity prices go up... and now the small farmers will have that much less in their corner.
Because my wife says there's only enough room in our kitchen for one person at a time. :smile:
And it seems to have been a very successful design, else you wouldn't be here.
The CWB and the Crow rate were both a result of the forces that destroyed farmers in the dustbowl years. Since we're going to do away with the CWB, I can only assume that farmers will no longer have the safety of being bailed out when times go bad, which is okay with me.
If the anti-drought legislation is passed along with the 8 day week we'll be in great shape as food falls from the sky from alien bail-outs during famine.
Lilley sums it up the other day:
Imagine I told you that there was a product, an entire industry actually, that was forced by law to sell it’s product to just one organization, a government backed organization, one with the power of the law behind it. Sell to these people or go to jail.
Now imagine that people making the exact same product in other parts of the country are allowed to sell to absolutely anyone they want to do business with.
Does this sound like Canada or a Soviet satellite before the Berlin wall came down?
This is Canada though and it is still going on today.
I’m talking about the Canadian Wheat Board.
Now, if you are not a farmer or if you don’t live out west, don’t think that this doesn’t matter to you. It does because this is about freedom. It is about liberty.
The Harper government is fulfilling a long standing promise to end the monopoly of the Canadian Wheat Board.
Under legislation passed by Parliament, Western farmers can only sell their wheat or barley to the Wheat Board. Legislation introduced today will repeal that system and allow farmers to either continue doing businesses with the Wheat Board or strike out on their own.
In essence, for the first time since 1935, farmers in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba will have freedom to run their businesses as they see fit.
People should be happy about this right?
Not so fast. Remember there are parts of Canada that do not like freedom and they definitely prefer governments running businesses rather than the business owners.
The Liberals and the NDP both oppose giving freedom to farmers, they like the current system – a government backed monopoly – sell to the wheat board or go to jail.
Less surprising is that the guy at the top of the Wheat Board supports not giving farmers a choice in who to sell their products to.
“We cannot in good conscience give up this fight. The government’s approach is illegal. It’s against the wishes of farmers and it’s harmful to the economic interests of Canada,” Allen Oberg said.
So he is considering taking the federal government to court to stop them from passing legislation which they are duly elected to pass. A group calling itself “Friends of the Canadian Wheat Board” is also looking to the courts to stop this.
Does any of this make sense to you?
The government is not going to stop farmers from dealing with the Wheat Board, they just won’t force them, under the threat of imprisonment, to deal with the Wheat Board.
Now, for everyone that lives in the city that just wants to eat bread and pasta and not think about where it comes from this may seem like a distant issue but again, it is about freedom.
You will note that the same people that wanted to lock you up for refusing to give the government highly personal, detailed information about your family and your home are the same people that back the jailing of farmers when it comes to who they sell their produce to.
We need to reject this kind of statist sentiment in Canada and embrace freedom whether it is for farmers or for you.
Lilley
Imagine I told you that there was a product, an entire industry actually, that was forced by law to sell it’s product to just one organization, a government backed organization, one with the power of the law behind it. Sell to these people or go to jail.
Now imagine that people making the exact same product in other parts of the country are allowed to sell to absolutely anyone they want to do business with.
Does this sound like Canada or a Soviet satellite before the Berlin wall came down?
This is Canada though and it is still going on today.
I’m talking about the Canadian Wheat Board.
Now, if you are not a farmer or if you don’t live out west, don’t think that this doesn’t matter to you. It does because this is about freedom. It is about liberty.
The Harper government is fulfilling a long standing promise to end the monopoly of the Canadian Wheat Board.
Under legislation passed by Parliament, Western farmers can only sell their wheat or barley to the Wheat Board. Legislation introduced today will repeal that system and allow farmers to either continue doing businesses with the Wheat Board or strike out on their own.
In essence, for the first time since 1935, farmers in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba will have freedom to run their businesses as they see fit.
People should be happy about this right?
Not so fast. Remember there are parts of Canada that do not like freedom and they definitely prefer governments running businesses rather than the business owners.
The Liberals and the NDP both oppose giving freedom to farmers, they like the current system – a government backed monopoly – sell to the wheat board or go to jail.
Less surprising is that the guy at the top of the Wheat Board supports not giving farmers a choice in who to sell their products to.
“We cannot in good conscience give up this fight. The government’s approach is illegal. It’s against the wishes of farmers and it’s harmful to the economic interests of Canada,” Allen Oberg said.
So he is considering taking the federal government to court to stop them from passing legislation which they are duly elected to pass. A group calling itself “Friends of the Canadian Wheat Board” is also looking to the courts to stop this.
Does any of this make sense to you?
The government is not going to stop farmers from dealing with the Wheat Board, they just won’t force them, under the threat of imprisonment, to deal with the Wheat Board.
Now, for everyone that lives in the city that just wants to eat bread and pasta and not think about where it comes from this may seem like a distant issue but again, it is about freedom.
You will note that the same people that wanted to lock you up for refusing to give the government highly personal, detailed information about your family and your home are the same people that back the jailing of farmers when it comes to who they sell their produce to.
We need to reject this kind of statist sentiment in Canada and embrace freedom whether it is for farmers or for you.
Lilley
What is an Act? Is it law? If the law states the decision of the status of law is to be sent to plebiscite and the Govt loses the vote to kill a law, does the law remain law?
That's what they will be going to court over. There could be a compromise, that's what the Conservative Party is known for right? :roll: Not having seen the legislation yet, if the only change was optional marketing to the wheat board, then that might satisfy most farmers, and the ones who choose to go alone could always come crawling back when CN, Cargill, Viterra, etc. fukc them over.
Any comments on the apparent contradiction in the first bolded part below and aren't 'perks' just what was in place before the fake revolution?
Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. For the time being, he said interest would be canceled from any personal loans already taken out less than 10,000 Libyan dinars (about $7,500).
He also announced that all military personnel and civilians who have taken part in the fight against Gadhafi would be promoted to the rank above their existing one. He said a package of perks would later be announced for all fighters.
Libya's transitional leader declares liberation - Yahoo! News
Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. For the time being, he said interest would be canceled from any personal loans already taken out less than 10,000 Libyan dinars (about $7,500).
He also announced that all military personnel and civilians who have taken part in the fight against Gadhafi would be promoted to the rank above their existing one. He said a package of perks would later be announced for all fighters.
Libya's transitional leader declares liberation - Yahoo! News
You ae spot on putting CN as your first company to mention. Controling the distribiution system means controlling the entire flow. Who has dibs on the publically owned for profit aluminum grain cars which are the only ones capable of running the Churchill line?
