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What's Trump Done Now?
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Don't get your panties in a knot. We are in a thread here about politics where to my knowledge a person is allowed to think as he pleases! Just another charade generating "news". My life just isn't going to be affected by it- yours can if you so choose!
He was Vice President at the time . Of course it is only a crime if a Republican / Conservative does it . Just like Ms Bev Oda , a hard working minority female MP , drummed out of politics for the crime of ordering room service , yet the next party in power has another not so hard working , lily white cabinet minister hiring a private photographer and crickets . Of course it isn’t about Biden nobody cares when Dems cheat . Two faced , hypocrites.
Orange man bad , we must impeach . That is all you have . He means what he says , a politician can’t do that , impeach .
That isn’t evidence , apparently, words out of ones own mouth don’t count . But hey the guy that might have heard something from somebody that apparently was present when somebody else was explaining a conversation that another person had .
Yet you refuse to see that this whole charade is to cover for the democrats front running candidate , and his abuse of office . Are you also a political hack that see no wrong as long as your side is doing it ? Sad I thought you were more pragmatic than that.
One of the problems with Trump's presidency might be that while he may be guilty of a few transgressions, the biggest problem is that with matters of "political correctness" he's not always very nice...………...not suave like say Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan. He tends to tell things like they are and he's not afraid of tramping on toes. He basically does what he promised he was going to try to do...…...improve the economy and unload some riff raff.
Yes no one wants to step on toes . They are from the school of let’s keep perpetuating an obviously unworkable status quo , because it might be dangerous to change .One of the problems with Trump's presidency might be that while he may be guilty of a few transgressions, the biggest problem is that with matters of "political correctness" he's not always very nice...………...not suave like say Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan. He tends to tell things like they are and he's not afraid of tramping on toes. He basically does what he promised he was going to try to do...…...improve the economy and unload some riff raff.
I think bribary, blackmail, and arkencide and are the glue that holds that card house up.
BTW LOL, epstien's banker just arked himself out.
Banker with Ties to Jeffrey Epstein Found Dead from Apparent Suicide
Here’s an odd one. Banker Thomas Bowers, who worked for a bank that managed Jeffrey Epstein’s funds, was recently found dead from an apparent suicide which, according to the Los Angeles Coroner’s Report, was via hanging. He was 55 years old. Weirder is that those outlets reporting on the banker’s death seem adamant to tie the banker and Deutsche Bank to Donald Trump. Not Jeffrey Epstein. It took a little digging, but here’s what I’ve found.
Thomas Bowers was the head of wealth management at Deutsche Bank as early as 2012. According to The New York Times, Epstein was a client of their private-banking division since 2013.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/b...rey-epstein-found-dead-from-apparent-suicide/
I think bribary, blackmail, and arkencide and are the glue that holds that card house up.
BTW LOL, epstien's banker just arked himself out.
Banker with Ties to Jeffrey Epstein Found Dead from Apparent Suicide
Here’s an odd one. Banker Thomas Bowers, who worked for a bank that managed Jeffrey Epstein’s funds, was recently found dead from an apparent suicide which, according to the Los Angeles Coroner’s Report, was via hanging. He was 55 years old. Weirder is that those outlets reporting on the banker’s death seem adamant to tie the banker and Deutsche Bank to Donald Trump. Not Jeffrey Epstein. It took a little digging, but here’s what I’ve found.
Thomas Bowers was the head of wealth management at Deutsche Bank as early as 2012. According to The New York Times, Epstein was a client of their private-banking division since 2013.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/b...rey-epstein-found-dead-from-apparent-suicide/
"ARKENSIDE"??????????????????????
Is that like when you try to kill the political careers of people like Hitlary Clinton??????????????
Did I not hear she was connected to Arkansas some how????????????????????????????????
Oh yes............Bill was governor of Arkansas when that White Water criminal crap came down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So talking about Whitewater IS Arkenside - I guess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article illustrating how the LIE-beral impeachment process is unraveling!!
With some comments of my own in brackets):
Barr disputes key inspector general finding about FBI’s Russia investigation
By Devlin Barrett, Karoun Demirjian
From The Washington Post December 2, 2019
Attorney General William P. Barr has told associates he disagrees with the Justice Department’s inspector general on one of the key findings in an upcoming report — that the FBI had enough information in July 2016 to justify launching an investigation into members of the Trump campaign, according to people familiar with the matter.
(This is going to be a KEY ISSUE since it may well reflect harshly on then president Obama!! After all -as president IT WAS HIS JOB to ensure a clean honest election!! So IF THERE WAS EVIDENCE - WHY did Obama NOT act on it?? And should we assume LIE-berals want to DENY there was evidence prior to Trumps election - simply to DEFEND their own INACTION????????????????)
(Is it not ODD that many Yankees can believe that Russia might want to interfere in the Yankee election - but LIE-berals DO NOT wish to believe that Putin might have staged an elaborate TRAP to make it look like Trump MIGHT somehow be guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, is due to release his long-awaited findings in a week, but behind the scenes at the Justice Department, disagreement has surfaced about one of Horowitz’s central conclusions on the origins of the Russia investigation. The discord could be the prelude to a major fissure within federal law enforcement on the controversial question of investigating a presidential campaign.
Barr has not been swayed by Horowitz’s rationale for concluding the FBI had sufficient basis to open an investigation on July 31, 2016, these people said.
(If the investigators cannot agree then how can there be any conviction?? After all the “reasonable doubt” provision will kick in and LIE-berals will then look like incompetent mud slingers who ended up with mud on themselves instead of on their intended target!! The whole thing is such a sleazy mess it is hard to imagine that anybody will come out looking relatively clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Barr’s public defenses of President Trump, including his assertion that intelligence agents spied on the Trump campaign, have led Democrats to accuse him of acting like the president’s personal attorney and eroding the independence of the Justice Department. But Trump and his Republican allies have cheered Barr’s skepticism of the Russia investigation.
(So were Yankee intelligence agents spying on Trump because of possible Russian interference - or spying on behalf of LIE-berals like Obama???????????)
It’s not yet clear how Barr plans to make his objection to Horowitz’s conclusion known. The inspector general report, currently in draft form, is being finalized after input from various witnesses and offices that were scrutinized by the inspector general. Barr or a senior Justice Department official could submit a formal letter as part of that process, which would then be included in the final report. It is standard practice for every inspector general report to include a written response from the department. Barr could forgo a written rebuttal on that specific point and just publicly state his concerns.
Spokespeople for the Justice Department, the inspector general and the FBI all declined to comment.
The Russia investigation was opened after the FBI was told of statements made by a then-Trump campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, that the Russians possessed hacked Hillary Clinton emails. Papodopoulos’s alleged comments were key because they were made well before any public allegation that Russian intelligence operatives had hacked the Democratic National Committee.
(Ah yes- and which is worse - that Trump aides might want to look at Russian dirt on Clinton?? Or that Russians MIGHT HAVE HAD DIRT on Clinton?? And when all is said and done - IT WAS A TRUMP AIDE who first warned FBI!!!!!!!)
The attorney general has privately contended that Horowitz does not have enough information to reach the conclusion the FBI had enough details in hand at the time to justify opening such a probe. He argues that other U.S. agencies, such as the CIA, may hold significant information that could alter Horowitz’s conclusion on that point, according to the people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
(So - depending on how stupid a mess LIE-berals make - its possible that other players with NEW information may kill the entire process?????????)
Barr has also praised the inspector general’s overall work on the matter, according to one person familiar with the matter. The inspector general operates independently of Justice Department leadership, so Barr cannot order Horowitz to change his findings.
(So one lawyer to another - Barr says Horowitz is competent and they essentially agree on most details - and Barr absolves Trump of blame!!!!!!!!!!!!)
But the prospect of the nation’s top law enforcement official suggesting the FBI may have wrongly opened an investigation into a presidential campaign, even after the inspector general announces they were justified in doing so, will probably generate more partisan battles over how the Justice Department and the FBI operate.
(But - it was that former Trump aide who let FBI know about Russian possession of alleged dirt in Clinton!! OH such............GUILT..........some place????????????)
It is not unusual for an attorney general or the Justice Department to disagree with some of an inspector general’s findings. However, typically those disagreements occur because senior leaders at the department believe the inspector general has been too critical. In this case, Barr has conveyed to others his belief that Horowitz has not been critical enough, or is at least reaching a conclusion prematurely.
(That dispute opens the door to accusations of political meddling to pervert the judicial process and will obviously kill an impeachment trial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
People familiar with the draft language of Horowitz’s report said while it is critical of some FBI employees, and found some systemic problems in surveillance procedures, it overall does not agree with Trump’s charge that the investigation was a “witch hunt” or a politically motivated attack on him first as a candidate and then as president.
Instead, the draft report found that the investigation was opened on a solid legal and factual footing, these people said.
(Yeah, yeah - he said and she said - and information gathered by illegally listening at keyholes and eavesdropping on PARTS of a conversation generally constitute hear-say evidence and such is NOT GOOD ENOUGH for a conviction!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Part of Barr’s reluctance to accept that finding is related to another investigation, one being conducted by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, into how intelligence agencies pursued allegations of Russian election tampering in 2016. Barr has traveled abroad to personally ask foreign officials to assist Durham in that work. Even as the inspector general’s review is ending, Durham’s investigation continues.
Barr’s disagreement with Horowitz will probably spark further criticism from Democrats, who have already accused Barr of using his position to protect the president and undermine federal law enforcement.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) charged in September that Barr had “gone rogue.”
(That`s nice - pissed off LIE-berals who are pursuing the witch hunt in a desperate last ditch hope that impeachment will cripple Trump - since the current array of LIE-beral candidates and their policies is SO UNPOPULAR with main stream Yankees that an election win for LIE-berals IS IN SERIOUS DOUBT - are now whining that anybody who does not agree with them must be some sort of boot licking yes man!! So - bootlicking is yet another LIE-beral entitlement!!!!!!!!)
In recent weeks, Democrats have charged that Barr’s Justice Department was too quick to decide not to investigate Trump over his efforts to convince Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to announce an investigation of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. The Ukraine controversy has led to an impeachment inquiry.
(And LIE-berals have the cart before the horse- WHAT IS THERE in Ukraine that Trump thinks is worthy of investigation?? A truthful answer may blow up in LIE-beral faces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Criticism of Barr previously centered on his handling of the Russia investigation. The case that began in 2016 was taken over in May 2017 by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. After a nearly two-year investigation, Mueller filed a lengthy report of his findings to Barr, by which point he had charged 34 people with crimes, including 26 Russian nationals. Those charged and convicted included Trump’s former campaign chairman, former personal attorney, former deputy campaign chairman and former national security adviser.
After receiving the Mueller report, Barr released a short letter summing up its main points, including that there was insufficient evidence to accuse any Trump associates of conspiring with the Russians. Barr also said Mueller had made no determination about whether Trump had sought to obstruct the investigation, but Barr and his then-deputy concluded he had not.
When the full report was released, Democrats protested that Barr had improperly skewed the findings to be more favorable to Trump.
(Not getting the answer you are praying for is NOT discrimination - if there is no hard evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Barr has dismissed such criticism, and charged it is Democrats who are abusing legal procedures and standards in their quest to drive Trump out of the White House.
“In waging a scorched-earth, no-holds-barred war against this administration, it is the left that is engaged in shredding norms and undermining the rule of law,” Barr said in a speech earlier this month.
In his first months on the job this year, Barr made clear he had serious concerns about how the FBI had conducted the investigation into possible collusion between Trump associates and Russia.
(Barr is a lawyer of some serious standing - do LIE-berals really believe he would LIE under oath - knowing that his career would BE DESTROYED if caught???? Barr has a position of sufficient wealth and prestige we ought to ask WHY he would risk his career and reputation to LIE on behalf of a guy like Trump who will be GONE from public life - perhaps as soon as 2020??????????????)
The attorney general declared in April that the Trump campaign was spied on, though aides later said he used that term not in a pejorative sense but in the more general meaning of surveillance.
“I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal,” Barr told lawmakers. “I think spying did occur, but the question is whether it was adequately predicated and I’m not suggesting it wasn’t adequately predicated, but I need to explore that.” He also criticized former leaders of the FBI, saying, “I think there was probably a failure among a group of leaders there in the upper echelon.”
Current and former law enforcement officials have said that, when presented with information about a possible plot to undermine the U.S. election, they had a duty to investigate, and it would have been wrong not to have launched an investigation.
(And there is the detail that will HANG Obama and LIE-berals!! Any HINT of foreign meddling ought to have called out the TROOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
In the months since, Barr, through Durham, has pursued information related to a onetime associate of Papodopoulos, a European academic named Joseph Mifsud.
Mifsud was publicly linked to Russian interference efforts in late 2017, when Mueller revealed Papodopoulos had pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about the details of his interactions with Mifsud.
Shortly after his name surfaced publicly, Mifsud told Italian media he did not work for Russia. “I never got any money from the Russians: my conscience is clear,” Mifsud told La Repubblica. “I am not a secret agent.”
Since then, the professor has disappeared from public life, leading to a host of theories about him and his whereabouts. While court papers filed in Mueller’s investigation suggested Mifsud operated in Russia’s interests, Papadopoulos, conservatives and conspiracy theorists have suggested he was working for Western intelligence agencies.
(So -EVERYBODY is telling lies and the whole thing is a big waste of time - and as I predicted - Trump will die of extreme old age LONG BEFORE this crap ever gets close to being sorted out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Trumplethinskin thrilled about "Time mags Person of the Year
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President Donald Trump revived his attacks on 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg on Thursday, criticizing Time magazine for naming her Person of the Year and telling Thunberg to "chill!"
“So ridiculous,” Trump, who was also on the shortlist to receive the honor, complained on Twitter. “Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Greta, Chill!”
more
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/12/donald-trump-mocks-greta-thunberg-time-magazine-083433
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President Donald Trump revived his attacks on 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg on Thursday, criticizing Time magazine for naming her Person of the Year and telling Thunberg to "chill!"
“So ridiculous,” Trump, who was also on the shortlist to receive the honor, complained on Twitter. “Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Greta, Chill!”
more
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/12/donald-trump-mocks-greta-thunberg-time-magazine-083433
Poor Nut Zone Doug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He has been forced to give up his habit of telling us about fearsome new weapons........................................
being developed by Red China and Putin Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And now he is reduced to making catty remarks about Trump and the Demon Swede!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apparently Nut Zone Doug would like the world to STOP TALKING about Red Chinese slave labour camps................................
and brutal re-education centres and the desperate defense of minimal civil rights by Hong Kong protestors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nut Zone Doug figures that if he stops speaking about his Chinese Soviet masters then so will we!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And how sad that Nut Zone Doug is now unable to frighten us with tales of Russian super weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems the Russians will not be launching any more "hyper" missiles until they can figure out why they keep crashing......................
and destroying and irradiating Russian villages - with the number of casualties being a CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And in related news - the flagship of the Russian fleet - the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last year the Kuznetsov went into dry dock for routine repairs and they accidentally dropped a LARGE CRANE on the ship...............
and now in the midst of repairs - welders have managed to start a RAGING FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The over 400 workers on the ship have been forced to flee for their lives........................................
with at least three missing and presumed trapped below decks in the raging inferno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!