What's Trump Done Now?

JLM

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JLM is a former union government employee who collects a pension from said employer.

....but wait...he hates the unions.

He will tell you that without the union he would have been afforded the same benefits.

If he see's this post he will call me names...:smile:


Why would I call you names? You're not the first person by any means to makes misinformed statements? My pension as a Gov't employee was established a good 10 years before Gov't employees became Unionized. My fault finding with the Union has nothing whatever to do with pensions. My main bitch was that I had to compete for a wage based on Seniority, not ability and performance. I was receiving the same wage as a guy who was sitting in the truck half the working day playing cards, while the rest of us were working. My pension is based on MY contributions to the plan. Why do you persist in expounding on things you know absolutely nothing about? Tell me, EXACTLY what were you doing in 1963? :) :) :) Anyway your PUTZY statements are interesting for the entertainment value.

I didn't know what, but now I do and I don't have a headache.



If you share personal information with people here, they'll try to hold to against you. It's best to avoid telling anyone anything.


No worries, Corduroy, BULL SHIT never did stand up too well.....................first rain kind of puts it back to its own level. :) :)

The restaurant industry has argued very successful that they can't exist without paying their employees next to nothing. So has all industry in the United States in general, which is why minimum wage is so low and union busting a matter of the law. If JLM thinks Americans are nice because hospitality workers are nice to him, how can we explain the American proclivity for war and arms dealing?


You make interesting points, Corduroy- some of which bolster points I've made. (Although you and I are mostly at logger heads, I still find you one of the sensible and intelligent minds on the forum. I have absolutely no doubt of the correctness of what you say about underpaid workers being pleasant and obliging for ulterior motives. I think that alludes to a good quality more than a poor quality. I fully agree that some of them have been "dealt a poor hand", but they've found a way of turning a seemingly hopeless situation into a livelihood. Contrast that with disgruntled workers in our own country who bring their own misery into the work place and don't serve anybody!
 

Corduroy

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You make interesting points, Corduroy- some of which bolster points I've made. (Although you and I are mostly at logger heads, I still find you one of the sensible and intelligent minds on the forum. I have absolutely no doubt of the correctness of what you say about underpaid workers being pleasant and obliging for ulterior motives. I think that alludes to a good quality more than a poor quality. I fully agree that some of them have been "dealt a poor hand", but they've found a way of turning a seemingly hopeless situation into a livelihood. Contrast that with disgruntled workers in our own country who bring their own misery into the work place and don't serve anybody!

We could get into more detail about this, but my point is that you can't use hospitality workers as evidence that a people are hospitable. Hospitality workers aren't necessarily hospitable by choice. It's their job.

A lot of thinkers and writers have tried to come up with pithy statements about how to judge a society.

They say you can judge a society by how it treats its:

poor
helpless
prisoners
children
animals

Whatever it is (I'm sure some people just lost their minds reading "animals") no one ever says you can judge a society by how it treats its tourists. But maybe you're on to something.

Although you and I are mostly at logger heads, I still find you one of the sensible and intelligent minds on the forum.
 

JLM

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We could get into more detail about this, but my point is that you can't use hospitality workers as evidence that a people are hospitable. Hospitality workers aren't necessarily hospitable by choice. It's their job.

A lot of thinkers and writers have tried to come up with pithy statements about how to judge a society.

They say you can judge a society by how it treats its:

poor
helpless
prisoners
children
animals

Whatever it is (I'm sure some people just lost their minds reading "animals") no one ever says you can judge a society by how it treats its tourists.


Again you raise some good points, BUT many of the people I found possessing those traits were not just employees but also proprietors.
 

Corduroy

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Again you raise some good points, BUT many of the people I found possessing those traits were not just employees but also proprietors.

OK, so that just proves my point. Why do you think proprietors are nice to you too? Is it because they are genuinely hospitable people or could it be.... wait for it.... you can do this.
 

JLM

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OK, so that just proves my point. Why do you think proprietors are nice to you too? Is it because they are genuinely hospitable people or could it be.... wait for it.... you can do this.


Who in his right mind doesn't want to see his business thrive? Americans (in my experience) are just better than Canadians in knowing when to spend a dollar now in exchange for prosperity later. I've seen it a hundred times. People have been known to do things without having ulterior motives. The employees I've mentioned have the wisdom to want to see their employer's business success (of course it all boils down to their job security)
 

Corduroy

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Yeah, so it's not proof that Americans are good people. It might show that they have the sense to make do in the terrible position they are in, but they don't seem to have the sense to change the situation. But we aren't talking about sense.
 

JLM

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Yeah, so it's not proof that Americans are good people. It might show that they have the sense to make do in the terrible position they are in, but they don't seem to have the sense to change the situation. But we aren't talking about sense.


People earning $7 or $8 an hour don't have the ability to change much, be they good, bad or indifferent. :)
One of the measures of a good person might be their ability and desire to make people feel better!
 

Highball

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As a result of his visit and speech at NATO France and the Netherlands just paid up their arrearages in full. Almost a billion buck, Poland and Now Italy, Spain and Portugal state teir accounts will be paid in full by the years end.
 

Twila

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I think you are quoting Old Scrooge before he "saw the light". :) :)

Totally was. One of my favouritist movies. The one starring Alistair Sim though.

I love that he was able to change and that he was allowed to change and his past not held against him.
 
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JLM

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Totally was. One of my favouritist movies. The one starring Alistair Sim though.

I love that he was able to change and that he was allowed to change and his past not held against him.


Yep, the one with Alistair Sim was a classic!
 

Curious Cdn

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As a result of his visit and speech at NATO France and the Netherlands just paid up their arrearages in full. Almost a billion buck, Poland and Now Italy, Spain and Portugal state teir accounts will be paid in full by the years end.

What are you talking about? What "account"? Who are they paying? Who do they owe to? Do you think that the NATO allies owe the Yanks cash and that they're going to "pay up" with them?

No they don't and no they're not. Trump, as usual, is full of shyte.
 

Musky

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Kushner.....lol.

MAGA.....?

Interesting history: Both Saddam Hussein & Mussolini appointed their son-in-laws to high posts, and both later had them executed
 

Walter

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Kushner.....lol.

MAGA.....?

Interesting history: Both Saddam Hussein & Mussolini appointed their son-in-laws to high posts, and both later had them executed
JFK appointed his brother, RFK, as attorney general, and both were assassinated. Wow.
 

Danbones

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By the same CIA (E Howard Hunt's death bed confession) that hates Trump too dontcha know!