What's Trump Done Now?

Twila

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Don't judge a culture on how friendly their tip-workers are. Americans in the hospitality industry are nice to you because they have to be. It's not a system based on any cultural disposition towards being decent to visitors. It's based on keeping workers desperate to maximize profits.

Are they paid less then minimum wage with the expectation of making up the rest via tips?
 

Corduroy

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Are they paid less then minimum wage with the expectation of making up the rest via tips?

The restaurant industry has argued very successful that they can't exist without paying their employees next to nothing. So has all industry in the United States in general, which is why minimum wage is so low and union busting a matter of the law. If JLM thinks Americans are nice because hospitality workers are nice to him, how can we explain the American proclivity for war and arms dealing?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The restaurant industry has argued very successful that they can't exist without paying their employees next to nothing. So has all industry in the United States in general, which is why minimum wage is so low and union busting a matter of the law. If JLM thinks Americans are nice because hospitality workers are nice to him, how can we explain the American proclivity for war and arms dealing?
It must give you a headache to know that the nice cradle-to-grave socialism those nice Swedes enjoy is funded largely by the Bofors Group.
 

Musky

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The restaurant industry has argued very successful that they can't exist without paying their employees next to nothing. So has all industry in the United States in general, which is why minimum wage is so low and union busting a matter of the law. If JLM thinks Americans are nice because hospitality workers are nice to him, how can we explain the American proclivity for war and arms dealing?

JLM is a former union government employee who collects a pension from said employer.

....but wait...he hates the unions.

He will tell you that without the union he would have been afforded the same benefits.

If he see's this post he will call me names...:smile:
 

Corduroy

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It must give you a headache to know that the nice cradle-to-grave socialism those nice Swedes enjoy is funded largely by the Bofors Group.

I didn't know what, but now I do and I don't have a headache.

JLM is a former union government employee who collects a pension from said employer.

....but wait...he hates the unions.

He will tell you that without the union he would have been afforded the same benefits.

If he see's this post he will call me names...:smile:

If you share personal information with people here, they'll try to hold to against you. It's best to avoid telling anyone anything.
 

Twila

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It must give you a headache to know that the nice cradle-to-grave socialism those nice Swedes enjoy is funded largely by the Bofors Group.

learn something new everyday...


I thought they were 'impartial'...

Not as heavily funded as before though. Hope they're socialism isn't impacted.
Present ownership[edit]
In 1999, Saab AB purchased the Celsius Group, then the parent company of Bofors.[9] In September 2000, United Defense Industries (UDI) of the United States acquired Bofors Weapons Systems (the heavy weapons division), while Saab retained the missile interests.
 

Jinentonix

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Obama did personal business with the same people?

Do tell.
You said nothing about personal business in your original post. Moving the goal posts when your point is invalidated is an immature tactic.

However, I DID notice that you are one of the ones who happily avoided answering why the Russians weren't the enemy when Clinton facilitated the sale of Uranium One to the Russians, giving them ownership of 5 US uranium mines. I await your "enlightenment" on the issue.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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learn something new everyday...


I thought they were 'impartial'...

Not as heavily funded as before though. Hope they're socialism isn't impacted.
Present ownership[edit]
In 1999, Saab AB purchased the Celsius Group, then the parent company of Bofors.[9] In September 2000, United Defense Industries (UDI) of the United States acquired Bofors Weapons Systems (the heavy weapons division), while Saab retained the missile interests.
They're very impartial. They sold weapons to regimes even the U.S. considers too stinky to deal with, like apartheid South Africa.

How are the Swedes (evil) socialists?
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...at-socialist-scandinavia-and-sweden-really-do

And don't get the notion I approve or disapprove of Sweden's way of running Sweden. It's up to them far as I'm concerned.
 

Curious Cdn

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Musky

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You said nothing about personal business in your original post. Moving the goal posts when your point is invalidated is an immature tactic.

However, I DID notice that you are one of the ones who happily avoided answering why the Russians weren't the enemy when Clinton facilitated the sale of Uranium One to the Russians, giving them ownership of 5 US uranium mines. I await your "enlightenment" on the issue.

You think I like Clinton? Her and her husband are slime....period.

As far as business goes that is what I meant. Sorry I was not clear enough.

Perhaps now you would like to comment given that I have now made everything clear.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You think I like Clinton? Her and her husband are slime....period.

As far as business goes that is what I meant. Sorry I was not clear enough.

Perhaps now you would like to comment given that I have now made everything clear.
If he does, odds are he'll just hit you with another tu quoque fallacy. It's Jin's go-to argument.
 

Twila

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Does the word personal" actually have to be stated? Is being president of the us 'doing' business? Isn't he busy working for the people? is that business?"
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Does the word personal" actually have to be stated? Is being president of the us 'doing' business? Isn't he busy working for the people? is that business?"

Trump's not doing business. At least in the Dickensian sense.

Business! Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!

-- Jacob Marley in A Christmas Carol
 

Musky

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Does the word personal" actually have to be stated? Is being president of the us 'doing' business? Isn't he busy working for the people? is that business?"

It does, that one of the keys into the investigations.

Clearly some don't get that....or care.

The party of Reagan is dead.