What's right about our health-care system
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Let me explain to you in simple terms, Anna. Suppose a business (doctor, lawyer, restaurant, store etc.) has expenses of 500,000 $ in a year and has income of 600,000 $, then the business does not have to pay tax on 600,000 $, but only on 100,000$ which is the profit.
If a business had to pay taxes on gross earnings (earnings before deducting expenses), most of the businesses will go broke in short order.
If you need further proof, you will just have to read the tax literature.
You are welcome to think what you like Anna, it just tells me that you have never run a business. Let us just take the case I took in the last example. If a business has expenses of 500,000, gross income of 600,000 and the profit of 100,000, it is taxed on 100,000 and gets to keep perhaps 70000 $ from it.
If the business is taxed on 600,000 $, the tax bill would be 180,000 $. Not only would that eat up all the profits, but then the business would be actually in the loss to the tune of 80,000. That would be a crazy way to do business, and it is not done that way in any country.
As to what you want to believe, that is your affair. If the White Queen can believe six impossible things before breakfast, why can’t you?
You're operating on ASSumption again. You appear to make that a habit, unfortunately for you.
Take any case you want. This is all only your say so and means nothing.
So?
Another ASSumption? You sure are loaded with ASSumption. Did I say anything about what I believe since you stated your opinion about my accuracy? No.
At any rate, this is sidetracking the issue and my point is that Canada's healthcare system, although not the worst, could be a LOT better.
You really don't have a clue when someone is taking you for a ride, do you? lmao
"Round and round the mulberry bush...."
At any rate, this is sidetracking the issue and my point is that Canada's healthcare system, although not the worst, could be a LOT better.
It is not side tracking the issue, Anna You made a serious mistake in your calculations and are too proud to admit it. In order not to admit making the mistake, you claimed some crazy way of taxation as the genuine taxation. You made a mistake, don’t want to admit it and that is the end of story.
It is not side tracking the issue, Anna You made a serious mistake in your calculations and are too proud to admit it. In order not to admit making the mistake, you claimed some crazy way of taxation as the genuine taxation. You made a mistake, don’t want to admit it and that is the end of story.
You really don't have a clue when someone is taking you for a ride, do you? Lmao
Yeah, right Anna. When you claimed that gross earnings (earnings before deducting expenses) are taxed, and performed wrong calculations based upon that, you were taking me for a ride. You made a mistake and that is all there is to it. Now if you want to cover up your mistake, by claiming that ‘you were taking me for a ride’ (whatever that means in this context), that is your affair.
But all this tells me is that you made a serious a mistake in the calculations (mistake to the tune of 30,000 dollars) and are too proud to admit it.
Yeah, right Anna. When you claimed that gross earnings (earnings before deducting expenses) are taxed, and performed wrong calculations based upon that, you were taking me for a ride. You made a mistake and that is all there is to it. Now if you want to cover up your mistake, by claiming that ‘you were taking me for a ride’ (whatever that means in this context), that is your affair.
But all this tells me is that you made a serious a mistake in the calculations (mistake to the tune of 30,000 dollars) and are too proud to admit it.
You're operating on ASSumption again. You appear to make that a habit, unfortunately for you.
It is a safe assumption that you have never run a business, Anna. If you ran a business and paid taxes on gross earnings (before deducting expenses), I am sure the government will love you, they may even honour you, give you a medal or something for paying taxes over and above the call of duty. But you won’t last one year in your business.
It is a safe assumption that you have never run a business, Anna. If you ran a business and paid taxes on gross earnings (before deducting expenses), I am sure the government will love you, they may even honour you, give you a medal or something for paying taxes over and above the call of duty. But you won’t last one year in your business.
Sorry. You've made another ASSumption again. I made a mistake and was just taking you for your own type of ride. See, I can admit to making a mistake, you can't. I have more balls than you do. lmao
Sorry. You're wrong again. I am not as childish as you.
Nope. I was simply doing what you do. Except that I don't drop the thread skulk off to another thread when I make a mistake like you do.
Oh, so finally after all this back and forth you admit to making a mistake. How generous of you! Was it so difficult to admit it the first time, when I pointed out the mistake? You tried to wriggle out of it, and when you couldn’t you finally admitted the mistake.
Anyway, at least you admitted it, that is something.
It's an ASSumption based on what you think I meant in something I said. That is foolish.
I ran a business with a partner for almost 13 years.
I made a mistake in my calculations. You are right about that, but that's ALL you are right about.
Actually it isn't such a big deal when a girl has more balls than po lil ol you.
It has nothing to do with being generous or wiggling. It's simply the way it is and I can accept that. Apparently you insist upon riding along on your ASSumptions, though.
My husband and I have voted NDP all of our lives , 'provincially'. All of our choices are not exactly what we want, I don't know anyone who has ever said
that they have finally found the party that meets all of their wishes.
politics is politics, it's all about the vote, and the biggest problem with
it is the apathy of the voters, such a small turnout. We have the power
to make a big difference, but most are indifferent, don't care, complain, but
don't have their own opinion, just following someone else, or they say they
won't vote, because they don't trust any of them, what a waste, that proves
nothing.
Yup. I cannot see anything changing until we as voters get together and insist upon change. But I won't hold my breath on that idea because it is as you say, voters' apathy..... and voters' fear of change.
the voters are lazy, uninterested in politics, can't be bothered, they can't even
bother being afraid of anything, they like to complain, but don't care to contribute.
I found some more info about Canada concerning healthcare and it's from our own government: go figure. If things DON'T improve we will experience the same problems that exist now, but on a larger scale.
Research About - Aging - CIHR
Wow. I didn't think this was as big an issue as it appears to be:
http://qnc.queensu.ca/story_loader.php?id=3f2fb55a816fc
Low birth-weight puts babies at a higher risk for ill health. As of 2007, the stats for increasing low birth weights was rising.
CTV.ca | Low birth weight rates in Canada on the rise
Interesting:
Healthcare Economist · Health Care System Grudge Match: Canada vs. U.S.
Research About - Aging - CIHR
Wow. I didn't think this was as big an issue as it appears to be:
http://qnc.queensu.ca/story_loader.php?id=3f2fb55a816fc
Low birth-weight puts babies at a higher risk for ill health. As of 2007, the stats for increasing low birth weights was rising.
CTV.ca | Low birth weight rates in Canada on the rise
Interesting:
Healthcare Economist · Health Care System Grudge Match: Canada vs. U.S.
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I guess we'll need some good old yankee know how to fix our health care, it's about time the private sector slithered up to the plate and took over before the government totally screws it.
Sure you made a mistake, Anna. We all make mistakes, no big deal. It became a big deal when you refused to admit it, when you tried to wriggle out of it. When I pointed out the mistake to you, if you had agreed right then that yes, it indeed was a mistake, we would have moved on. You made such a big deal of it.