How would you ever conclude that I think nutrition has nothing to do with healthcare out of that post? Healthcare pretty much starts with good nutrition.
What's right about our health-care system
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I'd say she thought you were referring to food as a fringe benfit after her little story about the difference between food in a major hospital and one or the rural "first aid" units.
That's it.
Anyway, I found some interesting info.
Canada's healthcare system seems to be exaggerated about:
- Canada's health care system has its problems
The Top Ten Things People Believe About Canadian Health Care, But Shouldn't
The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care by David Gratzer, City Journal Summer 2007
Wait times for medical in Canada:
Wait Times in Canada - Health Care System
Surgical wait times down but Canadians still waiting more than 17 weeks for treatment
Any system that ignores or rejects alternative health care but is based almost elusively on allopathic medicine is not a health care system but a sickness care system. A real health care system would take a holistic approach of treating mind, body and spirit.
That ties in with the "Prometheus Model" of healthcare view that sustainable healthcare is only accessible through attending to the QUALITY of healthcare, not QUANTITY. Unfortunately, Canadian healthcare is apparently only concerned with quantity and not so much the quality. This is why it is failing Canadians.
I liked the barefoot Doctor program in China where a doctor got paid only for keeping his patients healthy. If a patient got sick, he didn't get paid until they recovered.
That would only work if the patients were interested in their own health.
One doc I recently spoke with explained that of the 10 people she had in hospital, only two were there for reasons that were not of their own making.
The other 8 were there because they smoked, were 80 to 200 lbs overweight, they suffered from depression (because they didn't have a job and were on welfare just like their parents), etc etc etc.
It's not our health care system that needs fixing, it's our society. As a whole, we are fat, lazy, bored, and not interested in helping ourselves.
You can't expect health care to fix society.
Cliffy, when we visited India two years ago, we got a fascinating glimpse into the health care system in India. There health care is totally private of course. Government just cannot afford to pay for health care. In big cities such as Mumbai they do have a few hospitals which give free treatment to anybody who walks in. I assume Mumbai pays for that (it is apparently a rich city, rich by Indian standards).
Anyway, they have three parallel tracks of medicine, allopathic (Western medicine), homeopathic and Ayurvedic. This last is the ancient Indian medicine, thousands of years old. The medicines prescribed are plants that grow native to India. They have university degrees in Ayurvedic medicine, medical council to regulate the doctors etc.; it is a parallel system to allopathic medicine. They also have their pharmacies, drug companies who manufacture Ayurvedic medicine etc.
I don’t know how effective Ayurvedic medicine is, but in India, they do have an alternative, one may choose western medicine or native Indian medicine (or both).
Holistic medicine - Witchcraft. Practitioners of holistic medicine are not regulated and have been the cause of many deaths because those who were desperately trying to get help believed in them to the point of abandoning conventional medicine. ("here are 4 people who were harmed by someone not thinking critically.")
Anne M. Adkins, Wichita Kansas
Coretta Scott King ,Rosarito, Mexico
Charles Levy Patagonia, Arizona
"Orange Man" NYC
These people all dies because holistic practitioners using unproven treatments.
http://whatstheharm.net/holisticmedicine.html
In light of the recent attacks on Britain's National Health Service by certain Americans, Britain's Daily Mirror newspaper printed a series of letters by its readers thanking the NHS after it treated them for illness or injury.
One of those who wrote in was a Briton who had lived in Canada for about 18 years. He said that, although the Canadian health system is similar to Britain's, it is not as good as Britain's, but is better than America's.
One of those who wrote in was a Briton who had lived in Canada for about 18 years. He said that, although the Canadian health system is similar to Britain's, it is not as good as Britain's, but is better than America's.
Allopathic medicine kills thousands every year with misdiagnosis and drug prescriptions and they are supposed to be highly regulated. For thousand s of years native medicine people tended to the people with natural remedies. I would think that we could set up a system similar to India's Ayurvedic medical system using native plants of Canada and regulate it in a similar manner.
The site claims to promote critical thinking but if they only give one side of the story, how can the reader have enough information to make a critical decision. It seems to be more of a shill for the status quo.
If people would take care of that boredom by paying more attention to 'how' the
rest of the world live, compared to 'how much' we have here,and stop buying 'crap' in the grocery stores, (so that those
companies would go out of business), and get up each day and move their bodies, and work hard, and have fun, we could have a very 'efficient' population, who make the most
of our advantages here in this country, and good health would follow.
The 'whining' is amazing in this country, mostly about 'nothing'. The better we
have it, the bigger the search, to find 'trivia' to whine about.
Our health care system wouldn't cost so much if 'everyone' went to the doctor,
with legitimate illnesses, and not every 'twitch' their body makes.
We live in a society of abundance, very few people starve, there are 'safety nets' for most people with legitimate problems, and our biggest problem is people who are bored, lazy, and fat.
It's horrendous. I'm starting to think that every adult who is on welfare or unemployment needs to be put to work by the gov't. There are a gazillion things that need doing - cleaning public facilities, picking up litter, etc etc, and yet we're paying people to do nothing but whine and complain about their lot in life.
True, I remember Bill Vanderzalm, many years, when premier of b.c., wanted
to put the welfare, and unemployed to work, doing just what you suggest, and
he got nothing but flack for suggesting that, but we, at that time, thought
it was about time some 'leader' implemented such a thing.
and do you remember what the outcome of that was? what he did at his nursery in Richmond to those that went there to "protest" his ideas? Check it out sometime. The outcome reinforced the idea that many on "welfare" didn't want to work, even when given the oportunity.
I don't remember, refresh us. I see he's back in the spotlight, making big
moves to squelch that new tax that our 'drunken premier' is trying to push
onto us, after saying that he would not do such a thing.
I don't. A patient could leave the office, get ran over and killed and the doc wouldn't be paid. Or a patient could have a terminal illness and was going to the doc to keep them comfy till death. Again, no pay. Or what about chronic illnesses like diabetes? There are probably a lot of examples where a doc wouldn't get paid and the illness would not be up to them.
Rigid rules in medicine are inane.
That's at the heart of an awful lot of problems today, yes, but I think there is more than one cause; IE, individual attitudes.
I don't like the idea with some doctors around here who will only hear a maximum of two complaints at a time. I'm one of those people who have to make a list because if it's not on my mind at the moment, I won't even mention it. Sometimes those complaints are shortness of breath, chest pains, dizziness and arm pains.
Health Care is so great in Ontario.....
Health Care is so great in Ontario.....