Quoting the former tax collector means nothing to me as I consider him nothing more than the original fire and brimstone nut case evangelist.
What would YOU want to hear at church?
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Quoting the former tax collector means nothing to me as I consider him nothing more than the original fire and brimstone nut case evangelist.
Read this, I just found it a few minutes ago:
All blue-eyed humans have common ancestor | ScienceBlog.com
Yeah, the Bible's OT isn't filled with tales of a pissed off god. "So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he had committed against the Lord, because he did not keep the word of the Lord, and also because he consulted a medium for guidance, but he did not inquire of the Lord; therefore, He killed him, and turned the kingdom over to David, the son of Jesse." 1Chron. 10:13
Ok, have it your way.
lol He hasn't converted me to either atheism or agnosticism. I got there before he came along.
What, you EXPECT me to take the entire Bible at face value? Everything written as being THE word of God? I imagine that you feel that I should believe that the world was actually made in 6 days and that it was populated with the existing animals and one man and one woman.
Two different personalities. So your god is schizzy; one persona is JHVH and the other is Yeshua. Interesting.
lol Great comeback, Ger. Unfortunately, it leaves you to choose whatever you want to believe as to which is true and which is BS.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Why would it give a crap whether there were other gods or not if it was all powerful, all-seeing, etc.? Why not just obliterate all other gods and eliminate them from memories? Why not just have said, "worship me and be happy. Don't worship me, and you'll be toast". Scuse me, but if a god emits threats to make people believe in it, then it sure as peaches are peachy, it's not all-powerful.
And we do not have free will. Everything we are, think, say, do, etc. is a result of our DNA and brains' electro-chemistry.
Uhuh. Unfortunately, there is a very high probability that there are vast numbers of intelligent beings in the universe. So they're all toast? What does the Bible say about ETs? Do they even have "hearts"?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss.... and your point is? Oh...I know... since I proclaim to be a Christian and that I believe in Jesus Christ and what he has done for us, that means that I should stop thinking and believe EVERYTHING I am told and EVERYTHING that was written millenia ago. Fraid not, God gave me a brain to use, free will to exercise, and personal revelations to help me along the way.
Please don't omit El, the chief god of the Caananite pantheon, whom IsraEL adopted.
Actually, the latest idea in theoretical physics is that things actually do pop out of nothing. Of course, they have more evidence leading them to that idea than people have for believing some magician poofed everything, including himself, from nothing.
Theoretical physics breakthrough: Generating matter and antimatter from the vacuum
Try dozens. And there's just as much proof of them as there is for your single, lonely dude.
And the more science chugs along, it is not only showing a creator god is unnecessary, it's more and more improbable.
So what makes your interpretation right and someone else's wrong, is ....... opinion. lol
"You just won the weekly bingo game and there's a one million dollar bonus just for you''
Wouldn't that be nice?
Wouldn't that be nice?
It's my interpretation. Just like Cliffy has interpreted his revelations and chosen his path. IMO we are both heading for the same destination along different paths.
Oh yes, and I also don't tell you what you should or should not believe.
"....And 72 virgins waitng for you in the afterlife!"
Sorry, wrong church. Carry on! Nothing to see here!
I wrote a story that suggests God was a Male Chauvinist with a "Hate Women" complex. I mean, I don't know every religion or mythos out there, but a lot of them had their Prime Gods have, you know, Goddesses with them. Only the God of the Bible doesn't have a mate, that I know of anyway. I could be wrong, I've never read the Bible. Didn't have that "catch you" thing going for it. Though I have heard it suggested God is also a woman, which would make God hermaphrodite, wouldn't it?
In any case, any kind of God like this one probably deserves to be alone.
You do know that the age of each one is also 72, ... right?
God's 'mate' is the Holy Spirit according to the info on page 1. When you say you haven't read it you weren't kidding were you?
If at some point that lack of reading desire goes away read thr first and last 3 chapters of it and then give me the summary in your own words, just so I know you are, well ..... sane enough to be able to judge things like you seem to be judging. Any way this is where God introduces 'His wife'.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
Saying none of the children ever got a job and 'dad' had 72 new children ever year, how many new welfare cases would the be in , say, .... 1,000 years?
So the tree doesn't make any sound when it falls? Or that you can't get anywhere from here?
It's not likely I'll ever read the Bible; as I said, didn't catch me on the first attempt (although I liked the "children's Bible stories" as a kid) and really made me not likely to pick it up again to try.
What part am I "judging"? If what you posted is supposed to clarify he had a mate/wife/whatever... sorry, didn't exactly do that. BTW, what Bible version are you using? Various Bibles sometimes word things different and I'd like to at least refer your quote to see how other Bibles context it. Your quote though makes it like God and his "wife" are the same, which the theory of I did mention in my previous post.
My point was there is no clear and named Goddess while a lot of other religions do have a named Goddess and consort to the main God. The only one that doesn't fit that, that I can think of off the top of my head, is Buddha and while revered he's not supposed to be considered a God in the usual sense (though I could be wrong on that; not a practicing Buddhist).
The book of Enoch has some passages that would make awesome screen-savers or I-Max VR ride, until then the reading version is the only one available. If the subject of God having a wife is the topic I would think reading a passage or two would not be asking you to over-extend yourself, after all it is your 'question'. To go along with the verse already posted you should consider what Genesis 2 says about Adam and Eve being considered as being one flesh. The earth is said to be a mirror of heaven so if Adam left a family to join with a woman as husband and wife then God has parents that are a topic that would be prior to the start of Genesis 1 which is about 14 B years ago. (heaven created) Proverbs 8 has a few verses that say there was a witness of the same thing Genesis 1 covers, that would be from the viewpoint of their child, the one and only that 'they' will ever have. Earth was made with man as being dominant, heaven was created with God being dominant and Angels being the 'flock'. At some point in the future all angels and men end up in a place that is outside of this earth and the universe we can see above us (with/without scopes). In the Bible it would be the far side of an 'empty place' called the 'void' that God and the Holy Spirit and their child Christ called 'home' before heaven existed. From then to the time that Jesus is said to return would have seen Christ progress in stature and knowledge, many of the most violent parts of the OT were done so Christ could do the same when He comes to end sin and death, by killing all the sinners in one day. The sinners have what is equal to a jail term and there is a date they are to be let out as 'being pardoned' rather than transferred.
It was to make the concept a possibility the Bible itself promotes. You would need all the relevant verses before you would be to make an 'informed decision' compared to 'a decision'. If you read the verses I suggested above would that have any effect on what the verse in the first post said is altered in any way by the 'additional information'.
The file says it's the text of the 1611KJV, so far nobody has said it isn't. Here is a link to an online version that is almost as good as a stand-alone one. This is what happens when you click on the letter 'V'
Genesis 1 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)
Sorry haven't read that far back yet. Not only does God have a wife but their Son will have matured to the point that when He was here before He asked the Beloved Disciple' to marry Him while He was on the cross. The fulfillment of that is when the verse below is manifest.
Re:19:7:
Let us be glad and rejoice,
and give honour to him:
for the marriage of the Lamb is come,
and his wife hath made herself ready.
Or the information is not in the format you demand so the 'other format' is rejected. When Mary conceived the 'parent' was said to be the Holy Spirit rather than God. God would have directed the Holy Spirit to do it. That was established in Ge:1, 'God said' and the Spirit made the 'words become real'. Does the reference below show that God will punish somebody more for 'blasphemy' against 'His wife' than He would for 'blasphemy' against His son? Surely you would agree that on this world a man will punch somebody if they insult his wife, even if he isn't all that fond of her, whereas words might be all there is for his son being 'called a name'.
M't:12:31:
Wherefore I say unto you,
All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Nor am I, a Christian and a Buddhist would probably make good chess mates and reggae dance -partners than business competitors or war generals.
How would your view of God be altered if you had to incorporate this information.
When Angels were first created and given law it was determined that they would not be given in marriage (M't:22:30
so their population would have remained static. If 1/3 of the Angels end up inj the fiery lake rather than in the new heaven do angels get to 'rebuild their numbers' by having that ban on marriage lifted?Was the original band an act of 'kindness' in that it prevented Angels having any children when there was a possibility some of them would end up in the lake?
Having a child (like God and the Holy Spirit did) when there is zero chance of a child falling into sin would seem to be the last piece that allows for a continuation of both man and angels as ever increasing in numbers while experiencing no deaths.
That aspect isn't really covered as the Bible is limited to events from the start of the heavens and earth as we define them.
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Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
Not sure which flight of fancy you were on when you came to that erroneous conclusion but I certainly don't see that written there. It just says god created both male and female humans. And the rest of your interpretations come off as similarly being made under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
Not sure which flight of fancy you were on when you came to that erroneous conclusion but I certainly don't see that written there. It just says god created both male and female humans. And the rest of your interpretations come off as similarly being made under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
Asherah - the mother goddess and wife of El in the Caananite pantheon.
Canaanite religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yep. Anyone's interpretation of the Bible could be correct at that rate. Or none could be correct.
Not that'd it'd make a difference anyway, but I haven't seen anyone doing that; just posting rebuttals and offering probabilities and evidence, or lack of it.
I saw that a while ago. Cool that the theoretical physicists have torn it apart with their latest revelations. My universe would be too boring and I have a pretty good imagination. I can imagine what other people without as much imagination would come up with for themselves. lol
I read a little story about a woman who died and went to face god. She basically described to it, a fairly comprehensive character analysis and finished with a "Thanks but no thanks" because she couldn't think of any worse being to spend eternity with. lol
I'm of the opinion that if there are such things as gods, they are "its", totally genderless. But as wifey puts it, there are much nicer gods around than the Christian god. She'd prefer one of those gods to hang with. And my view is that gods are so extremely improbable as to be negligible for consideration as far as existences are involved.
That's pretty much how I interpreted what Gen. said, too. I have no idea where MHz got his/her idea that it was talking about this god having a wife. Something skewed his comprehension of English anyway.