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Ron in Regina

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When Musk spoke at Monday’s Presidential Parade at the Capital One Arena, he was overjoyed. He was smiling, holding up his hands triumphantly and dancing a bit of a jig while AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck” played in the background. It’s not something you typically see at a political rally, but there’s nothing wrong with this. His side won, so why shouldn’t he be in a celebratory mood?

By the time Musk finished, some people suggested he had done something reprehensible. They claimed he had flashed a fascist salute on stage — not once, but twice. Short clips spread like wildfire, and accusations of fascism, neo-Nazism and antisemitism followed.

Here’s the thing: there wasn’t a kernel of truth to it.

The full video of this short speech is widely available on the Internet. Musk reposted a link on X (formerly Twitter), the social media platform he owns. Watch the entire thing. You’ll see that Musk clearly puts his hand from his heart out to the cheering crowd, tells them, “My heart goes out to you,” and puts his hand back on his heart once more.

That’s neither a fascist salute, nor the actions of a neo-Nazi in disguise. If you actually whatever whatever, etc…???
 
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I'm referring to the Nazi bullshit. It's a fucking reach.
As is slobbering that anybody who approves of social welfare programs must be a COMMUNIST!

Look in a mirror. I hope you're happy with what you see, because from what I've read of your stuff, you're a solid guy, and I would thoroughly enjoy an evening of drinks and war stories with you.
 

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Here's an op-ed piece by Ramesh Ponnuru, a "conservative" columnist.

He deliberately tries to take down the temperature. Won't work, of course, but worth a try.

For scores of millions of Americans, the start of Donald Trump’s second presidential term is a time of great promise. Even some of those who did not vote for him wish him, insofar as they wish their fellow citizens, the best.

Personally, I do not expect the new “golden age” the president promised in his inaugural address. I do, however, think that the next four years could offer the country some real blessings, if we are lucky. Among my hopes:
  • That Trump convinces both skeptical Americans and foreigners contemplating illegally coming to this country that the U.S. government is serious about enforcing our laws and can do so humanely.
    • That this boost of confidence unlocks a congressional deal to reform legal immigration, boosting the number of people we admit based on skill and reducing the number based on extended-family ties.
    • That our alliances grow stronger, including with European countries that will start devoting as large a share of their budgets to defense as we do.
    • That our trade policy distinguishes between allies and enemies and takes account of how tariffs on imported inputs harm U.S. manufacturers.
    • That Russia’s invasion of Ukraine ends with a settlement that leaves the latter with defensible borders and the former with little to show for its brutal aggression.
    • That any deal to extend most of Trump’s first-term tax cuts makes it a priority to restore the value of the tax credit for children, which has been a victim of high inflation.
    • That the U.S. Navy expands until it can deter Chinese aggression in the South China Sea.
    • That the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which among other things bans racial discrimination in colleges that take federal funding, is enforced evenhandedly.
    • That the trend of the past two elections, in which race has become less predictive of voting behavior, continues.
    • That Trump’s new appointees to the federal judiciary resemble most of his previous ones both in their fidelity to laws as they understood when enacted and in their willingness to rule against Republicans when warranted.
    • That the Federal Reserve proves willing to defy him, too, if interest rates need to be higher than he wants to stop inflation.
    • That states with laws restricting abortion will do everything they can to make it clear that those laws allow doctors to treat pregnant women facing medical emergencies.
    • That some of the richest and most liberal jurisdictions in the country reconsider their decision to use zoning laws and building codes to become, effectively, gated communities.
    • That the movement for school choice, which has had its best years ever during the Biden presidency, build on its momentum.
    • That the media works to rebuild trust that it has lost and finds an economically viable model for quality journalism — and that Trump drops his loose talk of penalizing outlets he dislikes.
This is a lot to ask for, I know, but I wouldn’t rule out any one of these items as impossible. So I’m going to remain hopeful about the next four years. As for my fears — well, there will be plenty of future columns to write about those.
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First off, dipshit, 77,302,580 is not "more than half" of 326-odd million.

Second off, dipshit, Trump won 49,8% of the popular vote. That's only "more than half" to dipshits.
Sucks to be you , dipshit . 4 years of your worst nightmare . Enjoy .
 
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I just haven’t been paying attention because it’s background noise
Getting to the point where it's kinda hard to hear the intelligent input through the background noise.

One of the reasons I started my "Trump Did Something Good" thread. I despise the stupid prick. But even stupid pricks can do good things (if only by accident), and they should be encouraged to do so.
 

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Getting to the point where it's kinda hard to hear the intelligent input through the background noise.

One of the reasons I started my "Trump Did Something Good" thread. I despise the stupid prick. But even stupid pricks can do good things (if only by accident), and they should be encouraged to do so.
So how many billions have you amassed ? If a stupid prick can , why not a font of knowledge such as yourself ? With your self declared intelligence you should be among the richest on earth .
 
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So how many billions have you amassed ? If a stupid prick can , why not a font of knowledge such as yourself ? With your self declared intelligence you should be among the richest on earth .
Forbes says that Trump would be in approximately the same position he's currently in if he had handed over his inheritance to a reputable broker and pursued a career as a crayon artist.

I'm aware you will conclude from this that Forbes doesn't know what it's talking about, but that's because you're a fanboy of Hair Furor. Not because of anything he's done or promised to do, but because he offers you REVENGE on all the people who DONE YOU WRONG by failing to see that your worldview is Da Troof!

Look, I realize that your wit and personal flaws make it effectively impossible for you to understand this, but one can recognize problems and at the same time disagree with some proposed solutions.
 
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More than you.
Forbes says that Trump would be in approximately the same position he's currently in if he had handed over his inheritance to a reputable broker and pursued a career as a crayon artist.

I'm aware you will conclude from this that Forbes doesn't know what it's talking about, but that's because you're a fanboy of Hair Furor. Not because of anything he's done or promised to do, but because he offers you REVENGE on all the people who DONE YOU WRONG by failing to see that your worldview is Da Troof!

Look, I realize that your wit and personal flaws make it effectively impossible for you to understand this, but one can recognize problems and at the same time disagree with some proposed solutions.
You are funny .
to be you , dipshit . 4 years of your worst nightmare . Enjoy
First off, dipshit, 77,302,580 is not "more than half" of 326-odd million.

Second off, dipshit, Trump won 49,8% of the popular vote. That's only "more than half" to dipshits.