Did you happen to notice that your numbers are all over the place?
Cheeeck before you pooo-oooost. <said as I would talk to a pouting child>
Cheeeck before you pooo-oooost. <said as I would talk to a pouting child>
What Should American Goals be in Afghanistan?
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For example, the post-invasion avoidable mortality and under-5 infant mortality in Occupied Iraq and Afghanistan now total 3.4 million and 2.4 million, respectively – estimates directly derived from publicly-available UN Population Division data but which are comprehensively ignored by mainstream media.
“Body count” documents the similarly non-reported avoidable death of 1.3 billion people since 1950 on Spaceship Earth with the First World in control of the flight deck.Body Count: BODY COUNT. Global avoidable mortality since 1950
“Body count” documents the similarly non-reported avoidable death of 1.3 billion people since 1950 on Spaceship Earth with the First World in control of the flight deck.Body Count: BODY COUNT. Global avoidable mortality since 1950
My advice to the American Government would be
1. The war in Afghanistan is in its eighth year, unnecessarily sidelined by the Iraq fiasco that drained troops and materiel. This prolongation has cost both civilian and military lives in that theatre. As well, it has mitigated against the support of the Afghan people for the foreign occupation.
2. The USA has not fulfilled its commitment of improving the lives of the civilian population. As miserable as their lives were under the Taleban, many feel that at least they were more secure.
3. The Dutch and Canadians will no longer be in a military role after 2011, it is unlikely other NATO partners will agree to replace them.
4. The Taleban are regaining strength in the south among the Pashtuns. And with resupply through Pakistan, it is unlikely NATO can kill its way to victory.
5. The drug problem is rampant. The Karzai government is either complicit or turning a blind eye, and has little influence in the countryside.
6. Any attempt to bypass the Karzai government by rearming the warlords further destabilizes the central government.
7. The Afghan Army and Police have not been successful in an in assuming the major role in maintaining security. Further training is not likely to be any more successful.
8. The original goal of the war was to remove Osama and his training camps. Those goals have been met. The culture, language, and terrain further gains improbable.
9. The best solution is to involve in negotiations moderate Taleban, India, Pakistan, Iran, China, And Russia to move to a compromise solution in Central Asia.
1. The war in Afghanistan is in its eighth year, unnecessarily sidelined by the Iraq fiasco that drained troops and materiel. This prolongation has cost both civilian and military lives in that theatre. As well, it has mitigated against the support of the Afghan people for the foreign occupation.
2. The USA has not fulfilled its commitment of improving the lives of the civilian population. As miserable as their lives were under the Taleban, many feel that at least they were more secure.
3. The Dutch and Canadians will no longer be in a military role after 2011, it is unlikely other NATO partners will agree to replace them.
4. The Taleban are regaining strength in the south among the Pashtuns. And with resupply through Pakistan, it is unlikely NATO can kill its way to victory.
5. The drug problem is rampant. The Karzai government is either complicit or turning a blind eye, and has little influence in the countryside.
6. Any attempt to bypass the Karzai government by rearming the warlords further destabilizes the central government.
7. The Afghan Army and Police have not been successful in an in assuming the major role in maintaining security. Further training is not likely to be any more successful.
8. The original goal of the war was to remove Osama and his training camps. Those goals have been met. The culture, language, and terrain further gains improbable.
9. The best solution is to involve in negotiations moderate Taleban, India, Pakistan, Iran, China, And Russia to move to a compromise solution in Central Asia.
IS this a serious question?
Did the US invade Afghanistan for an imaginary pipeline or did something else cause us to go into Afghanistan?
Opiates are the best pain-relief drugs on earth.
They should not eradicate poppy fields, that just alienates a very poor people, inspires them to provide aid and comfort to anti-foreigners.....whomever they are......they should buy the poppies........make opiates much cheaper.
I suppose you think the present owners of the two concessions certified to grow pharmasuetical poppies will just roll over and agree with you. "Make opiates much cheaper"! You do not have a future in a capitalist enterprise.
Yes, serious question. The USA attacked Afghanistan to catch Osama. Aha Are they still looking for Osama? The USA attacked Iraq -Weapons of mass destruction?
Imaginary WMD in Iraq! Get Osama in Afghanistan. Those are your truths smack.
No we haven't got Osama yet and those weren't the only reasons to go into Afghanistan. They Taliban Govt. was given an option, they refused and that was that.
According to the American bipartisan commission on 9/11, and as reported in The Guardian, March, 24, 2004, a Bush-White-House decision to invade Afghanistan was made prior to September 11, 2001.
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At a meeting of the Bush administration's top national security officials on September 10 (2001), a three-phase strategy was agreed.
The Taliban would be presented with a final ultimatum to hand over Bin Laden. Failing that, covert military aid would be channelled to anti-Taliban groups. If both those options failed, "the deputies agreed that the United States would seek to overthrow the Taliban regime through more direct action."
However, the three-step process would have taken up to three years, and did not represent an immediate attack plan.
The next day, hijacked planes destroyed the World Trade Centre and hit the Pentagon, triggering the launch of an anti-Taliban offensive in October and the Taliban's fall a month later.
I'd say that's "just being silly", if I wasn't so sure that you probably meant it. Be afraid kids, be very afraid
No we haven't got Osama yet
Send in the Marines!!!! ummm . Damm, they've already done that. Hmmmm. A guy on dialysis and near death evades the Marine Corp????
Better get the coon dog and uncle Jed. He'd fulfill his duty... 8O
I can just see Bush and Cheney with a checklist after he was elected
Afghanistan check
Iraq check
Iran hmmmm. better hold off on that one
North Korea again, hold off
Syria Condi, could you point that out on the map for us?
Venezuala gimme that map back!!!!
Vietnam we already did that one George!!!!
HEY!!@ GIVE ME THE DAMM MAP. It's my turn!!!