What is Pride?

[countryboy]

Through the effects of sin compounding, pride begets other sins as well. Once an individual becomes self centered in his pride, he seeks out external stimuli and acceptance. Jesus spoke of this manifestation in John.5,41:

39 "You search the Scriptures, for you think that in them you have everlasting life, and they are the very writings that testify about Me. 40 Yet you will not come to Me in order to have life. 41 I do not seek honor among men, 42 but I know you, that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43 For I have come in the name of My Father, and yet you do not welcome Me. If another comes in his own name, you will welcome him. 44 How can you believe, you who take honor from one another, but do not seek the honor that is from the only God?

Andy

Wow, and here I was going to answer the question "What is Pride" by saying, "Charlie" - A country singer popular a few years back with hits like Crystal Chandelier and others.

My other answer would have been "the act of getting a lid off a jar of pickled crow gizzards"...like, "I pride that sucker right offa' that jar!"

I feel "out-thunk" here...time to head back to the country where questions and answers are real simple! :lol:

 

[Mowich]

Wow, and here I was going to answer the question "What is Pride" by saying, "Charlie" - A country singer popular a few years back with hits like Crystal Chandelier and others.

My other answer would have been "the act of getting a lid off a jar of pickled crow gizzards"...like, "I pride that sucker right offa' that jar!"

I feel "out-thunk" here...time to head back to the country where questions and answers are real simple! :lol:

ROFLMAO! Good one, CB. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[AnnaG]

I agree with Goober, Anna, but I would use the word resilient, betcha that fits. No?;-)

TY, Mowich. I try. It helps to be able to dump negative stuff fast rather than hanging onto it. I think you're pretty awesome, too.

 

[AnnaG]

Through the effects of sin compounding, pride begets other sins as well. Once an individual becomes self centered in his pride, he seeks out external stimuli and acceptance. Jesus spoke of this manifestation in John.5,41:

39 "You search the Scriptures, for you think that in them you have everlasting life, and they are the very writings that testify about Me. 40 Yet you will not come to Me in order to have life. 41 I do not seek honor among men, 42 but I know you, that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43 For I have come in the name of My Father, and yet you do not welcome Me. If another comes in his own name, you will welcome him. 44 How can you believe, you who take honor from one another, but do not seek the honor that is from the only God?

Andy

This sounds like more stuff showing where religion keeps trying to get people to rid themselves of what makes us human to me.

 

[AnnaG]

Yes. Has servants, we obtain true happiness through knowing we please God. We can feel happiness in the service we successfully accomplished, as happiness is a spiritual gift of God as a partial reward for a job well done. But has the op says, pride's effects are self serving. We cannot make use of anything for a good that doesn't already belong to God. In other words what can we credit to ourselves as an offering to God if the material,tools,skill,intellect we use to create a product doesn't belong to us, a product that belongs to God antecedent of it's creation.? This reality is a humbling thought indeed.

I obtain true happiness from interacting with my hubby, my daughters, and other people. I take pride in my girls, that I can do some things well, and that I am able to help people "just because" without expecting reward other than feeling good about it.

We need to remember always that we are spirits here on this planet encased in this material shell and we are destined for higher things. We need to detract of the enticements of this world and seek spiritual things rather than the empirical, even to the point of denying self, which coming full circle has the effect of ridding oneself of the temptation of pride.

Andy

There's no evidence of that.

 

[AnnaG]

Wow, and here I was going to answer the question "What is Pride" by saying, "Charlie" - A country singer popular a few years back with hits like Crystal Chandelier and others.

My other answer would have been "the act of getting a lid off a jar of pickled crow gizzards"...like, "I pride that sucker right offa' that jar!"

I feel "out-thunk" here...time to head back to the country where questions and answers are real simple! :lol:

There's also those groups (called prides) of tan-colored furry things that walk around on all fours, roar a lot, etc. in Africa.

 

[countryboy]

There's also those groups (called prides) of tan-colored furry things that walk around on all fours, roar a lot, etc. in Africa.

Dang! You don't mean them "line prides", do you? I always thought that meant pumpin' up the ol' self-ess-teem while line dancing down at the cowboy club. Jehosaphat, yew guys have me beat on this one...I never woulda' thunk there'd be so many meanings to a simply werd like pried, or pride, or pryde, or whuddever it is. ;-)

 

[AnnaG]

Dang! You don't mean them "line prides", do you? I always thought that meant pumpin' up the ol' self-ess-teem while line dancing down at the cowboy club. Jehosaphat, yew guys have me beat on this one...I never woulda' thunk there'd be so many meanings to a simply werd like pried, or pride, or pryde, or whuddever it is. ;-)

That's what I meant.
How about pride parades? I hear Toronto has a big one. I've never seen a pride in a parade before personally, though.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Wow, and here I was going to answer the question "What is Pride" by saying, "Charlie" - A country singer popular a few years back with hits like Crystal Chandelier and others.

My other answer would have been "the act of getting a lid off a jar of pickled crow gizzards"...like, "I pride that sucker right offa' that jar!"

I feel "out-thunk" here...time to head back to the country where questions and answers are real simple! :lol:

Yes, I remember Charlie Pride, countryboy. And a few years back? I would say way back.

When I was doing my Ph.D at University of Utah (this was in the 70s), one person in our group had a radio, and he always used to tune it to the same Channel of country music. After listening to country music in the lab day after day for a few years, I became quite knowledgeable about it, at the time. In addition of Charlie Pride, I recall Ronny Millsap (I think he was blind), Merle Haggard and several others.

I recall quite a few songs from that era. I still remember most of the ballad ‘Joannie was the girl who lived next door’; it used to be heard quite often in those days.

However, country music is not my cup of tea, and after I left Salt Lake City, I stopped listening to it. These days my knowledge of country music is zero.

 

[weaselwords]

What are you supposed to be, ambivelent of your accomplishments or yourself or think positively of those accomplishments and self. Isn't thinking positively of self consdered pride? Isn't ambivelence considered a symptom of depression? That being the case I prefer to be proud.

 

[countryboy]

Yes, I remember Charlie Pride, countryboy. And a few years back? I would say way back.

When I was doing my Ph.D at University of Utah (this was in the 70s), one person in our group had a radio, and he always used to tune it to the same Channel of country music. After listening to country music in the lab day after day for a few years, I became quite knowledgeable about it, at the time. In addition of Charlie Pride, I recall Ronny Millsap (I think he was blind), Merle Haggard and several others.

I recall quite a few songs from that era. I still remember most of the ballad ‘Joannie was the girl who lived next door’; it used to be heard quite often in those days.

However, country music is not my cup of tea, and after I left Salt Lake City, I stopped listening to it. These days my knowledge of country music is zero.

You should get back into it again! It would do everyone some good to see lots of those clear-eyed, straight-talkin' talents spreading parts of the good culture of the USA (& Canada) around for all the enjoy!

I keep telling my opera singer daughter that country is where the money is! :lol:

 

[countryboy]

That's what I meant.
How about pride parades? I hear Toronto has a big one. I've never seen a pride in a parade before personally, though.

So whut would be wrong with a pride/pride/pride parade? That would be the one where the pride (from Africa) would be line dancing (with pride), thus giving the entire parade an overall aura of pride. Mind you, does than mean both kinds of prides should be in the first pride category, or split into separate pride categories? That would be the furry African critters with manes, and those without. And, is it OK if the maned prides line dance with the unmaned prides? And why would African prides be line dancing in Toronto anyway?

In any case, could it then it could be the pride/pride/pride/pride parade, right?

BTW, do you remember what the original question was? I know we're on topic, because we're talkin' pride here, but I'm a bit confused. :lol: Please see signature line below.

 

[lone wolf]

Pride is that thing the Church doesn't want to combat those neuroses that guarantee filled pews

 

[SirJosephPorter]

You should get back into it again! It would do everyone some good to see lots of those clear-eyed, straight-talkin' talents spreading parts of the good culture of the USA (& Canada) around for all the enjoy!

I keep telling my opera singer daughter that country is where the money is! :lol:

Sorry, I am with your daughter on this one. I can see myself attending an opera music concert, but a county music concert, never.

 

[countryboy]

Sorry, I am with your daughter on this one. I can see myself attending an opera music concert, but a county music concert, never.

Well, speaking of pride ;-) , I've been to all kinds of concerts and performances over the years, and I have to say, I like them all...if they're performed well. And I think the best performers are the ones that obviously take a lot of pride ;-) in their work.

Each musical style has its own unique background and represents certain parts of different cultures, all of which makes them interesting to me.

I mention that country thing to my daughter only when she brings up the subject of money! :lol: Besides, as a foward-thinking young person with a Blackberry and all the trimmings, I'm wondering why she values such old-fashioned music (opera) over that relative newcomer to the scene, Country? Must be an old-fashioned gal at heart, right? Actually, I'm just happy she takes such pride ;-) in her work. In fact, I'm downright proud ;-) of her!

 

[sibes]

God hates pride & arrogance. Try to avoid these at all cost! The best way to deal with pride is to spend time with God daily seeking Him and studying His Word. Learn to strengthen your faith in His love for you! Develop a strong faith that He does truly love you and accepts you unconditionally, and never lose sight of this fact!

Nice point. Again and again, humankind has fallen because of his pride. Pharaoh, who was the most supreme leader of the world, in his arrogance failed to heed the warning voice of Moses and said, "Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go." His civilization, although considered unbeatable, was brought to the dust as a result.

Despite many warnings, Nebuchadnezzar, also the top king of his day, took glory to himself. "Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty?" he said. As a result, heaven's aid was removed from him and he fell into madness.

Then there's Herod, who failed to give God the glory when the people praised him. Immediately he was smitten. Eaten of worms, he died.

So much for the mighty forces of earth. They, like Goliath, will fall before David's stone, the Stone of Israel.

 

[countryboy]

Nice point. Again and again, humankind has fallen because of his pride. Pharaoh, who was the most supreme leader of the world, in his arrogance failed to heed the warning voice of Moses and said, "Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go." His civilization, although considered unbeatable, was brought to the dust as a result.

Despite many warnings, Nebuchadnezzar, also the top king of his day, took glory to himself. "Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty?" he said. As a result, heaven's aid was removed from him and he fell into madness.

Then there's Herod, who failed to give God the glory when the people praised him. Immediately he was smitten. Eaten of worms, he died.

So much for the mighty forces of earth. They, like Goliath, will fall before David's stone, the Stone of Israel.

So my God-fearin', pillar of the community Grandfather was wrong when he told me to always "take pride in my work?" He must have been reading a different Bible. Or interpreting it differently, at least. I think your definition of pride is not that same as mine.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I mention that country thing to my daughter only when she brings up the subject of money! :lol:

Here you are probably right, I assume a good country music singer would earn more than a good opera singer.

Besides, as a foward-thinking young person with a Blackberry and all the trimmings, I'm wondering why she values such old-fashioned music (opera) over that relative newcomer to the scene, Country? Must be an old-fashioned gal at heart, right? Actually, I'm just happy she takes such pride ;-) in her work. In fact, I'm downright proud ;-) of her!

As to that, musical taste has nothing to do with political or social views. My musical taste can be described as highly conservative (opera music, Gilbert and Sullivan) yet I consider myself a liberal, progressive when it comes to religion, politics or social issues.

 

[Cliffy]

I consider myself a political agnostic, a religious atheist and a spiritual anarchist. On social and environmental issues, I think we are doomed by our own stupidity.

Oh! And I am proud of it.

 

[countryboy]

I consider myself a political agnostic, a religious atheist and a spiritual anarchist. On social and environmental issues, I think we are doomed by our own stupidity.

Oh! And I am proud of it.

I take pride in being a simple, down home country boy. That way, I don't have to live up to anyone else's lofty expectations! And I do a good job of it. :lol::lol::lol: