As the old saying goes, sitting in church no more makes you a Christian than sitting in a garage makes you an automobile. I am quite in agreement that there is a chasm between what Jesus taught and the way the average person who calls themselves a Christian acts. Nevertheless, it doesn't dilute the strength and depth of what Jesus taught.
What is a Christian?
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''A Christian is not someone who obeys Jesus.''
Imitating Jesus and the Apostle's examples were mandated in the New Testament:
I Cor 4:16; I Cor 11:1; I Thess 1:6
Obedience was the key to being a true Christian according to those teachings.
Imitating Jesus and the Apostle's examples were mandated in the New Testament:
I Cor 4:16; I Cor 11:1; I Thess 1:6
Obedience was the key to being a true Christian according to those teachings.
Jesus is more of an alchemist than a Jew or the Christian image that make him out to be gentle and forgiving. Until there is an understanding and universal reading into of a passage and it's true esoteric meaning then it will remain a chaotic religion with thousands of doctrines.
No doubt you will find some sort of fault with this, it is as close to speaking directly about women as it gets. Notice that there is nothing said that indicates the person has to initiate the 2nd birth.
M't:22:28:
Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven?
for they all had her.
M't:22:29:
Jesus answered and said unto them,
Ye do err,
not knowing the scriptures,
nor the power of God.
M't:22:30:
For in the resurrection they neither marry,
nor are given in marriage,
but are as the angels of God in heaven.
If you were a farmer and went on holidays how much effect would you have on the daily happenings on the farm?
Immense effect. It is an ongoing process. You can lose your crop in a matter of 2-3 days to insects without any warning. If you aren't there to spray you'll be cashing a crop insurance cheque and plowing your efforts under.
Perhaps this is a winter vacation when there is nothing to do. All the work necessary was completed in the past. The new spring is the time to return and plant all those 'saved seeds'.
Not that it works that way. The way it actually goes down is both weeds and crops are allowed to grow together, at harvest time everything is gathered. The weeds are then burned up, their ashes return to the fields basically as dust rather than seed.
Not that it works that way. The way it actually goes down is both weeds and crops are allowed to grow together, at harvest time everything is gathered. The weeds are then burned up, their ashes return to the fields basically as dust rather than seed.
Gawd, there's always some vegetable out there calling me a weed! Hell, I'm not a weed; I'm a wildflower! Roast the vegetables, water the flowers!
Remorse is not the only aspect of repentance. There is also restitution. People reap what they sow. You can't actually go to the end of your life disobeying God's law and then suddenly be "saved" by deathbed repentance. The Lord is a just God, and it's not just to treat lawbreakers with the same privileges afforded to the law-abiding.
"According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence." (Isa. 59:18)
Jesus was likely walking with a group and men and talking with men who then wrote down what he said. He was engaging people at the time that he was with not producing sound bytes for us to dissect thousands of years later. Today, we love to apply 21st century standards and then claim Jesus doesn't pass muster because his words don't sound inclusive enough to us. But Jesus was engaging the people of the 1st century. It's too bad if you truly see him as not being inclusive toward women because he was remarkably progressive in that regard considering the culture that he lived in.
If this shakes anyone's faith they would have to be a remarkably fundamentalist and literalistic Biblicist.
I wouldn't waste my time with this gopher. You're dealing with fundamentalists here, just not of the Christian variety. Everything is black and white to them. People of faith are just dimwits who don't even believe their Bible because if they did they would do all this literal things. They think once you realize you are cutting off the hand which causes you to sin that you will see the light, no longer have faith in a non-existent god, and be a free thinker (cause you're not right now you understand). If only over 80% of the world would get on board with them, they figure, the world would be a much better place. I wonder why it's so hard to get that other 80% on board.
'Confession' is very necessary. How else can a non-productive bunch of paedophiles manage to convince fools that they need an intermediary to talk to a non-existent Invisible Big Head in the sky.
The Bible is an evil book promoting, genocide, murder, rape, & slavery. Any avg. person has higher moral standards than the 'God' who supposedly gave these laws to Moses,
And don't forget that Jesus said he came not to change the law (of Moses)'one whit'.
Rubbish piled upon nonsense and merde de boeuf.
