What happened to planning with the marijuana venture?

Twin_Moose

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Hi! Twin Moose
You asked about taxation ......
Just remember how many tax dollars went to fund the justice system and police during the past 50 years. Do you know how many judges and courtrooms and jails they had to build in order to enforce what the government knew was uncontrollable?
The government knew it was harmless as well and knew it was not addictive as alcohol was or cigarettes. But they had to invent levers of control within society because young people are the revolutionaries within all societies. It worked really well during the 1960's and 70's and with the hippies.

Not 1 jail was built for MJ users, the general public was not in favour of legalizing weed at the time and it was an acceptable expense to combat it, now not so much, the views have pretty much done a 180 on the subject.
 

OpposingDigit

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Hi! Twin Moose

People's views about drugs changed because the government and media allowed and encouraged change ..... just like homosexuality and same sex marriage views were changed.

The only reason drugs are legal now is because the Ruling Class have all the methods of societal control in place using anti-terror legislation. They got a camera on every street corner rather than a drug sniffing dog or cop, and a bug in every phone and a monitor at every e-mail location, just like what was used for drugs during the past 50 years.
 

MHz

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Hi! Twin Moose

People's views about drugs changed because the government and media allowed and encouraged change ..... just like homosexuality and same sex marriage views were changed.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ecame-illegal-and_us_592d8b54e4b0a7b7b469cd4d
The sins of past presidents are visited on the present, and when presidents make poor decisions, the odious results can linger for decades. We are still suffering from Richard Nixon’s drug policy decisions made in the 1960s.

Nixon ignored the advice of both the head of National Institute of Health (NIH), Dr. Stanley Yolles, and National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) deputy director Dr. Bert Brown. Each of them had recommended that if cannabis were dealt with at all by the federal government, cannabis use should be treated as a minor problem, equivalent to a parking ticket, deserving of nothing more than a legal infraction.

To circumvent the scientists at NIH and NIMH, Nixon set up the National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA). NIDA is focused only on drug abuse. As a consequence, NIDA has systematically blocked research designed to study the potential medical benefits of cannabis for treating such maladies as ADD, pain, PTSD, autism spectrum disorder and cancer.

That somewhat distant history came to mind recently, while watching MSNBC the night after the U.S. bombing of the Syrian air field. One of the pundits was former Drug Czar, retired General Barry McCaffrey who, according to reporter Seymour Hersh, was a war criminal for his actions in the first Iraq war.

This led me to thinking how quickly we forget and discount past governmental transgressions. This seems especially true as it pertains to the Middle East. Frequently we don’t recognize the long term adverse effects of previous bad policy decisions. This is doubly true when it comes to oil and the Middle East.

We rarely contemplate the nexus of oil, the half century long mess in the Middle East, the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 and the war on hemp. The media rarely reminds us that the person responsible for the chaos in the Middle East, the second longest war after the war on drugs, is former President George W. Bush. He and he alone is the one who set in motion the current dangerous situation.

“We rarely contemplate the nexus of oil, the half century long mess in the Middle East, the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 and the war on hemp. The media rarely reminds us that the person responsible for the chaos in the Middle East, the second longest war after the war on drugs, is former President George W. Bush. He and he alone is the one who set in motion the current dangerous situation.”​
Bush’s ill advised destabilization of the Middle East, created by the U.S. toppling Saddam Hussein, continues to have serious adverse consequences. Ironically one of the reasons that Donald Trump won the presidency is because in the Republican primary he could be critical of Bush’s war and later attack Hillary Clinton in the general election for voting to support it. In fact, that is also a reason why she lost the 2008 Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, who had always opposed the war.
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Twin_Moose

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Your whole argument is distorted, the general population opinion has changed with the generational change, what wasn't acceptable by our parents and grandparents are now acceptable by us and our children. Who knows the view may change with circumstances in the next couple generations and reverse today's opinion again. The Media is following the cue of changing popular opinion and testing the opinion of others by throwing it out there to see what sticks.
 

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The government selling weed at $280 an ounce is a godsend to the illegal sellers.

The bottom had fallen out of the market and now the government has put it back in.

Left to the laws of supply and demand weed becomes almost worthless.

In a single season I can grow more weed than I could smoke in a lifetime.
 

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petros

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Decriminalized they could have still upped their control through the policing game but nothing to gain globally.

They now have more power than ever to do "random" racial based pullovers and racial youth carding on the streets.

In this instance stats prove drug use is higher with people of colour or culture. They can now use weed as an excuse to do unwarranted searches and seizure.

When it comes to controlling the masses and lesser races Liberals are magicians.

Liberals always offer a boobie prize for giving up your Rights.

They are taking away far Rights than what was lost to terrorism but this is willing forfeiture.

Bravo!


Everything about indoor grown weed goes against every eco-policy on mama Gaia.

The intent of Canada going legal first establishes us as exporters.

There is no money at home but let's get the whole globe blasted while the Liberal jack boots work their magic of Agenda (Forever) 21.
 
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MHz

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If you want to make money as a nation you do a hemp revitalization on the scale that went along with PetroCan opening their doors. Today that would be about $100B for a business that used 10% of the production to serve Canadians and the other is exported. Or we can sit on our asses as import hemp based products when the plastics take a hit when oil consumption bottoms out as people change over to NG.

See what happens when the collective is running the country, they have to be based on what is cheered on and what is booed here, They match exactly.
 

White_Unifier

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It's been a full three years since the legalization of marijuana was first announced and we're arriving at the day and virtually no suppliers are even in place! As in any enterprise you would think distribution would be one of the first if not the very first concern. We've seen 5 year old kids running a lemonade stand do a better job. This is the same man who is supposedly running a country of 37 million people. Wouldn't a knowledgeable business man put out feelers for suppliers on day one and have them vetted? I can understand the Prime Minister being an idiot, but are we to believe that every one of what must be thousands in the organization is also an idiot. I find this to be UNBELIEVABLE!

You've not needed to interact much with your government's institutions, have you. I work in the private sector but interact with government every day. The ones who are not in positions of authority often seem smarter than those who are. I have no idea how state administration is run. It's a mystery to me too.
 

petros

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If you want to make money as a nation you do a hemp revitalization on the scale that went along with PetroCan opening their doors. Today that would be about $100B for a business that used 10% of the production to serve Canadians and the other is exported. Or we can sit on our asses as import hemp based products when the plastics take a hit when oil consumption bottoms out as people change over to NG.
See what happens when the collective is running the country, they have to be based on what is cheered on and what is booed here, They match exactly.
There is no money in it.

If there were you'd see seeded hectares into the millions.
 
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petros

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lets see: Alberta created massive oil sands projects before they had a way to get their product to market.
So it seems like Canadian businesses are distribution challenged.
The Feds under Trudeau created PetroCanada to gain control of the oil sands.