What do recruitment adds say about us?

[EagleSmack]

The ones I remember stressed travel and gaining a career and I remember a little of a ditty, "There's no life like it....." lol. I don't remember anything about humanitarian efforts on tv.
I have no idea what the newer ads are saying except what you guys are saying here.

In the 1980's the US Navy ads were all about travel.

Now they show mostly SEALS with some footage of aircraft carriers and subs. The funny thing is that there are just a handful of SEALS so I would say that it is just to get the potential recruit in the door.

"Sure you can be a apply to be a SEAL but we need to get you signed up for another job to get in."

Which would be the truth. Each Navy recruit can take the initial SEAL test at Navy Recruit Training but only few are selected. The test is insane as it should be.

 

[AnnaG]

I saw one last night finally. I showed a destroyer or something scooting around amongst the floes in the Arctic and it was saying something about protecting our waters. It didn't say anything about fighting, traveling or careers.

In the 1980's the US Navy ads were all about travel.

Now they show mostly SEALS with some footage of aircraft carriers and subs. The funny thing is that there are just a handful of SEALS so I would say that it is just to get the potential recruit in the door.

"Sure you can be a apply to be a SEAL but we need to get you signed up for another job to get in."

Which would be the truth. Each Navy recruit can take the initial SEAL test at Navy Recruit Training but only few are selected. The test is insane as it should be.

I don't think I've seen any American recruitment ads. But, I don't really watch much tv anyway.

 

[Bar Sinister]

The ones I remember stressed travel and gaining a career and I remember a little of a ditty, "There's no life like it....." lol. I don't remember anything about humanitarian efforts on tv.
I have no idea what the newer ads are saying except what you guys are saying here.

I remember the "There's no life like it," ads. But it seems to me that the commercials also contained scenes showing soldiers helping in floods and international disasters.

I could be wrong, Mr. Bush is not the only one who "misremembers." Anyone out there who can find a video link?

 

[Kreskin]

YouTube - Canadian Armed Forces Commercial 1980

 

[Machjo]

I vaguely remember that. I also remember the US ones with 'Be all you can be'. That was for the army I believe:

YouTube - Army Commercial - Be All You Can Be (1986)

Around the same time period as the Canadian one. I like the education carrot that goes with it. It really does rub it in there.

The Israeli one is interesting:

YouTube - A real Israeli doesn't evade the army

The retort is interesting too:

YouTube - True Israelis Do Not Ask Questions - re: ****ty propaganda

YouTube - NEW Royal Marines Commando Recruitment Advert It's a State Of Mind 99.9% Need not apply.

 

[Liberalman]

The other Army

YouTube - Salvation Army Volunteer Recruiting

 

[CDNBear]

I like the education carrot that goes with it.

You mean the Serviceman's Adjustment act, later renewed and reborn as the Montgomery GI Bill? The one that's been around in one way shape or form since WW II (LWF) and cover Service personnel that have served in both peace and during war, most commonly known as the GI Bill? The bill that assists returning GI's in getting an education? Buying a home? Starting a business? Pays them unemployment? The one that provides a free education to eligible dependents of severely wounded GI's? Is that the carrot you're talking about?

It really does rub it in there.

What do you mean by that?

 

[Scott Free]

US Marine Corps vs. Sweden:

How do you interpret these or other recruitment videos from around the world?

I would say the US add is making an appeal to emotionally distressed people. It is offering them a way to belong, something to join, to be a part of something greater that will give them honour and prestige. It is saying that the army will fill in what is missing. I would guess they recruit a lot of people with personality disorders.

The Swedish add is an appeal to adventure and demonstrates how life is boring. Are you bored? Join the Swedish army. It seemed targeted to youthful male impetuousness.

The Canadian add was similar to the Swedish one except it was edgy and dangerous. It seemed to be offering up more of a personal challenge than the other ones. At the end it named the emotions the add should have engendered and proposed joining the army was the best way to fight them - instead of just changing the channel. The Canadian add took the most advantage of unauthentic experience by suggesting the emotions created by the add were actually created by the world and so the world had to be fought.

That's my take on them.

 

[CDNBear]

I would say the US add is making an appeal to emotionally distressed people. It is offering them a way to belong, something to join, to be a part of something greater that will give them honour and prestige. It is saying that the army will fill in what is missing.

It could just as easily be to attract "A" type personalities that understand the sacrifice they would have to commit to achieve some pretty lofty goals. But that won't help fuel that stereotypical and ideological view you have, will it?

I would guess they recruit a lot of people with personality disorders.

And most don't make it past the eval. But you hang on to your BS stereotypical and ideological shyte if it makes you happy.

That's my take on them.

As filtered through one skewed ideology.

 

[Scott Free]

It could just as easily be to attract "A" type personalities that understand the sacrifice they would have to commit to achieve some pretty lofty goals. But that won't help fuel that stereotypical and ideological view you have, will it?

Good theory too bad the add doesn't make an appeal to stable personalities. The Swedish one does that.

And most don't make it past the eval. But you hang on to your BS stereotypical and ideological shyte if it makes you happy.

Speaking of personality disorders, hi CDNBear, nice to see you again too ;-)

As filtered through one skewed ideology.

Really? And what ideology would that be?

 

[CDNBear]

Good theory too bad the add doesn't make an appeal to stable personalities. The Swedish one does that.

Your opinion is skewed. You have a predetermined notion of what everyone is, how they should act and what they behave like, as you have expressed in the past, to which you received a sound virtual thumping and ran off in a huff. It was almost as sad and pathetic as your pitiful stereotyping. I'll agree that at some level, the Armed Forces may appeal to a certain demographic, that may have personality disorders. But I certainly would generalize an entire group, or video, without solid evidence. That's best suited for childish types, with an ideology that pretty much states all Soldiers are abhorrent. Such as yourself.

Speaking of personality disorders, hi CDNBear, nice to see you again too ;-)

Ah yes, I must have a personality disorder, because I've made you eat your words, and look like a tard on line. To the point you ran off in a huff. I'd love to say it was nice to see you too. But you haven't changed, still the myopic ideological driven clown, I see.

Really? And what ideology would that be?

Yes really. That wonderful left progressive one you use to attack anyone that doesn't fit your proscribed stereotype.

 

[Scott Free]

Your opinion is skewed. You have a predetermined notion of what everyone is, how they should act and what they behave like, as you have expressed in the past, to which you received a sound virtual thumping and ran off in a huff. It was almost as sad and pathetic as your pitiful stereotyping. I'll agree that at some level, the Armed Forces may appeal to a certain demographic, that may have personality disorders. But I certainly would generalize an entire group, or video, without solid evidence. That's best suited for childish types, with an ideology that pretty much states all Soldiers are abhorrent. Such as yourself.

Ah yes, I must have a personality disorder, because I've made you eat your words, and look like a tard on line. To the point you ran off in a huff. I'd love to say it was nice to see you too. But you haven't changed, still the myopic ideological driven clown, I see.

LMAO! I have no idea what your even ranting about. I left because I had started a new project and didn't have time for this place. What thing happened that got me in a huff?

Yes really. That wonderful left progressive one you use to attack anyone that doesn't fit your proscribed stereotype.

I'm not sure what this means. What stereotype? I'm leftist? How?

 

[CDNBear]

LMAO! I have no idea what your even ranting about.

Oh yes, I must be ranting, I must be agitated.

I left because I had started a new project and didn't have time for this place. What thing happened that got me in a huff?

How convenient. I could, if I actually gave you much more then a cursory second thought, go and find the exact post, I think it was to Cliffy actually and then find a link to the thread in which you tried to defend your asinine theory about what a Native should be like. But I don't give you more then a cursory second thought, so I won't.

Oh ya, this is where you claim it's not true, because I won't waste my time proving something the bulk of the regular members watched and/or participated in.

Why you ask? Because it won't make a lick of difference, you'll end up arguing semantics and denying you meant this and I'm that, and so on. You haven't changed in your absence, I can't say I've ever seen you concede, so why would I think you'd acknowledge anything I had to put any great effort into now?

I give mhz more respect then I would ever give you.

I'm not sure what this means. What stereotype? I'm leftist? How?

Speaking of personality disorders. Or would you just be suffering from some personal deficiencies? Is that a disorder?

 

[Scott Free]

How convenient. I could, if I actually gave you much more then a cursory second thought, go and find the exact post, I think it was to Cliffy actually and then find a link to the thread in which you tried to defend your asinine theory about what a Native should be like. But I don't give you more then a cursory second thought, so I won't.

Oh ya, this is where you claim it's not true, because I won't waste my time proving something the bulk of the regular members watched and/or participated in.

Why you ask? Because it won't make a lick of difference, you'll end up arguing semantics and denying you meant this and I'm that, and so on. You haven't changed in your absence, I can't say I've ever seen you concede, so why would I think you'd acknowledge anything I had to put any great effort into now?

I give mhz more respect then I would ever give you.

Right, now I remember.

lol, it must have been very gratifying to think you had run me off? Sorry to disappoint but my leaving had nothing to do with you.

Speaking of personality disorders. Or would you just be suffering from some personal deficiencies? Is that a disorder?

Yeah... right... OK... you're the solipsist. LMAO

wow :roll:

 

[CDNBear]

I'm watching the Mork and Mindy pilot with my oldest. We're trying to figure out which is funnier, you or Mork and Mindy. So far you're winning. My oldest also suggests changing your nic to Turtle.

Right, now I remember.

lol, it must have been very gratifying to think you had run me off? Sorry to disappoint but my leaving had nothing to do with you.

Ya, I think that's why I said clearly, it was Cliffy who was the last straw. But I can see how you would want to ignore that, so you could fuel your own opinion.

Yeah... right... OK... you're the solipsist. LMAO

I think you best fit the other definition, succinctly. What is it again? Oh yes, egotistic and self absorbed.

wow :roll:

Quite.

 

[Scott Free]

OK, whatever you say :tard:

 

[CDNBear]

OK meathead, whatever you say :tard:

OK, whatever you say :tard:

 

[ironsides]

Joining the U.S.M.C. is not a means to honor, it is a personal challenge that one achieves for themselves. It cannot be explained, because the explanation is so different for each Marine. The term ideology was mentioned, being a Marine is being a idol. Sweden it looks like is preparing for a war against domestic or European terror. Canadian film (ad) pretty much tells you what you will be doing right off the bat. Those that do join (any armed forces) have made a commitment to give their lives if need be to support an ideal. One can ask no more of them.

 

[petros]

Canada does indeed have a problem.

Our troops are exhausted, disillusioned, lack physcological support at home and are seriously under paid.

Harper doesn't support our troops in the least bit.

 

[AnnaG]

Les tried to get into the RCN once. Bad timing. It was while Turdeau was doing his best to rid Canada of armed forces. Anyway, Les wanted a career, didn't know what, and he's always liked subs. He wanted a job on a sub. Didn't get it. Turdeau made it near impossible to get in. Les gave up and went into HD mechanics and became a volunteer firefighter while he was learning mechanics. lol Had sweet bugger all to do with fighting.

Canada does indeed have a problem.

Our troops are exhausted, disillusioned, lack physcological support at home and are seriously under paid.

Harper doesn't support our troops in the least bit.

Still loads better than the Glibs have since Turdeau. lol