What are we doing in Afghanistan

jimmoyer

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Sing with me Darkbeaver !!!




Edwin Starr - WAR

War...HOOAH ...yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh ha haa ha
War...HOOAH...yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutley nothing...say it again y'all
War..huh...look out...
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...listen to me ohhhhh

WAR! I despise,
'cos it means destruction of innocent lives,
War means tears to thousands of mother's eyes,
When their sons gone to fight and lose their lives.

I said WAR!...huh...good God y'all,
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...say it again
War! Huh...What is it good for (Edwin sings 'Wohh oh Lord' over the top)
Absolutely nothing...listen to me

WAR! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker,
War. Friend only to the undertaker.
Ohhh! War is an enemy to all mankind,
The thought of war blows my mind.
War has caused unrest within the younger generation
Induction then destruction...who wants to die? Ohhh

WAR! good God y'all huh
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...say it say it SAY IT!
WAR!...uh huh yeah hu!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...listen to me

WAR! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker,
War! It's got one friend that's the undertaker.
Ohhhh! War has shattered many a young man's dream,
Made him disabled, bitter and mean,
Life is much too short and precious to spend fighting wars these days.
War can't give life, it can only take it away!

Ohhh WAR! huh...good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...say it again
War!...huh...woh oh oh Lord
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...listen to me

War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker,
War. Friend only to the undertaker...woo
Peace lovin' understand then tell me,
Is there no place for them today?
They say we must fight to keep our freedom,
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way.

Ohhhhhhh WAR! huh...good God y'all...
What is it good for?...you tell me!
Say it say it say it saaaay it!
War! good God now...huh
What is it good for?
Stand up and shout it...NOTHING



We all love this song.

We all agree with that song.

Believe it or not, Darkbeaver.


It's a tough world that won't go away.
 

Mogz

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RE: What are we doing in

I understand that you knew what you were doing when you were in Afghanistan but I also know that you have no idea about why you were sent there. I,ll take a day off next week and amass your level of knowledge. If you fully understand why Canada is in Afghanistan, then tell us. You can shit on me all you like Mogz, I love it, ya foul mouthed little twirp.

I had no idea why I was there? That's odd, what would put you in a better place to understand over me why the Army is in Afghanistan? Answer this question beaver, don't ignore it like you do every other question i've posed to you. Also this line kills me:

If you fully understand why Canada is in Afghanistan, then tell us.

I have, time and time again, you just aren't listening. You've asked me this question at least a half dozen times since i've been on these forums and yet we keep running in circles. I won't answer it any more, from now on i'll just link you to the post where I clearly lay it all out for you:

http://tinyurl.com/pnjj2

Read my post about 1/2 way down the page. I even went back and highlighted the section where I clearly lay out why Canada is in Afghanistan. Don't ask me this question again, I have better things to do that run in circles with you because you lack the intelligence to absorb knowledge that is neatly put out before you.



Hi eleven, you just became my bitch. Here's why:

There should be a debate. Our role is suppose to be peacekeeping. If it goes beyond that, then our role in Afghanistan should be reassessed. If the USA didn't attack the wrong country (Iraq) they could have secured stability in Afghanistan with the proper resources. I don't think it's up to Canada to fix the United States mess for not focussing on Osama bin Laden and the real culprits.

You are an ignorant fool. I just want to get that out in the open before I continue. Being new you've missed all my rants about shortsighted Canadians who've bought in to this global peacekeeper mentality. That said, our role in Afghanistan was NEVER peacekeeping. We deployed in 2001 for a combat mission, a mission we've been on ever since. So get it out of your head that we're peacekeeping in Afghanistan. Afghanistan always has been and always will be a combat operation in every sense of the word. Secondly as for a debate, the very party who sent the troops in to Afghanistan is now calling for the debate for purely political reasons. The Conservatives never sent the Forces in and I see no reason to debate an operation that has been ongoing SINCE 2001. With regard to Afghanistan, I fail to see how Iraq relates to Afghanistan, considering the War in Iraq began AFTER Afghanistan. We're not "fixing a mess", we're promoting our own security and helping Afghans. Pure and simple. Wrap your head around that.

I think the people of Afghanistan deserve a stable political system, but who is to say they are even ready for the system we ourselves understand. We could end up becoming military oppressors in an attempt to create something that will fail due to cultural/ideological reasons.

We're in Afghanistan at the request of the Afghan Government. The same organization you sell short as if they were some cromagnon civilization.

The best attempt at change throughout the world in recent years has been though economic incentives. When the standard of living is improved, peoples standards towards their well being improve.

Funny, Former Yugoslavia, First Gulf War, SOmalia, Rwanada, Eritrea, The Congo, yeah economic incentives really helped those global conflicts. Sheesh.

Now our PM is talking and strutting around in such a way that you think he was reading right out of George Bush’s handbook and that is really dangerous. USA’s attitudes have pinned them in a corner and it continues to get worst but again their leadership says to “stay the course” despite continually being on the wrong side of the idea of progress they like to suggest.

Considering our operations in Afghanistan are completely different than the operations being conducted by the Americans this makes no sense. You'd know this if you were informed by the way.

I’m all for peacekeeping, but I’m not for military occupation — if it becomes that regardless of what we would like to call it.

You're whats wrong with Canadian society. I'm sorry to say that, but it's true. You're a prime example of how weak Canadians have become. People would never have thought like that during World War II and Korea. I'm sorry you're all love and peace, but we're at War right now in Afghanistan, you'd better get used to it. Or have a cry-in with Fiveparadox. One or the other.
 

darkbeaver

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Re: RE: What are we doing in Afghanistan

jimmoyer said:
Sing with me Darkbeaver !!!




Edwin Starr - WAR

War...HOOAH ...yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh ha haa ha
War...HOOAH...yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutley nothing...say it again y'all
War..huh...look out...
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...listen to me ohhhhh

WAR! I despise,
'cos it means destruction of innocent lives,
War means tears to thousands of mother's eyes,
When their sons gone to fight and lose their lives.

I said WAR!...huh...good God y'all,
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...say it again
War! Huh...What is it good for (Edwin sings 'Wohh oh Lord' over the top)
Absolutely nothing...listen to me

WAR! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker,
War. Friend only to the undertaker.
Ohhh! War is an enemy to all mankind,
The thought of war blows my mind.
War has caused unrest within the younger generation
Induction then destruction...who wants to die? Ohhh

WAR! good God y'all huh
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...say it say it SAY IT!
WAR!...uh huh yeah hu!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...listen to me

WAR! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker,
War! It's got one friend that's the undertaker.
Ohhhh! War has shattered many a young man's dream,
Made him disabled, bitter and mean,
Life is much too short and precious to spend fighting wars these days.
War can't give life, it can only take it away!

Ohhh WAR! huh...good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...say it again
War!...huh...woh oh oh Lord
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...listen to me

War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker,
War. Friend only to the undertaker...woo
Peace lovin' understand then tell me,
Is there no place for them today?
They say we must fight to keep our freedom,
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way.

Ohhhhhhh WAR! huh...good God y'all...
What is it good for?...you tell me!
Say it say it say it saaaay it!
War! good God now...huh
What is it good for?
Stand up and shout it...NOTHING



We all love this song.

We all agree with that song.

Believe it or not, Darkbeaver.


It's a tough world that won't go away.

Thats a good old tune JimMoyer, but the worlds already starting to go away.
 

darkbeaver

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RE: What are we doing in

Mogz, I don,t care how many potatoes you pealed when you were in Afghanistan, you don,t have a clue why you were there you only know what they told you, and you keep repeating the propaganda like it meant something, every war
for the last forty years has used the same script your spouting, I,ve heard it all before over and over, the same stupid bullshit.
 

darkbeaver

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The Coming Resource Wars

By Michael Klare, TomPaine.com. Posted March 11, 2006.

America's closest ally has announced that climate change has ushered in an era of violent conflict over energy, water and arable land.

It's official: the era of resource wars is upon us. In a major London address, British Defense Secretary John Reid warned that global climate change and dwindling natural resources are combining to increase the likelihood of violent conflict over land, water and energy. Climate change, he indicated, "will make scarce resources, clean water, viable agricultural land even scarcer" -- and this will "make the emergence of violent conflict more rather than less likely."

Although not unprecedented, Reid's prediction of an upsurge in resource conflict is significant both because of his senior rank and the vehemence of his remarks. "The blunt truth is that the lack of water and agricultural land is a significant contributory factor to the tragic conflict we see unfolding in Darfur," he declared. "We should see this as a warning sign."

Resource conflicts of this type are most likely to arise in the developing world, Reid indicated, but the more advanced and affluent countries are not likely to be spared the damaging and destabilizing effects of global climate change. With sea levels rising, water and energy becoming increasingly scarce and prime agricultural lands turning into deserts, internecine warfare over access to vital resources will become a global phenomenon.

Reid's speech, delivered at the prestigious Chatham House in London (Britain's equivalent of the Council on Foreign Relations), is but the most recent expression of a growing trend in strategic circles to view environmental and resource effects -- rather than political orientation and ideology -- as the most potent source of armed conflict in the decades to come. With the world population rising, global consumption rates soaring, energy supplies rapidly disappearing and climate change eradicating valuable farmland, the stage is being set for persistent and worldwide struggles over vital resources. Religious and political strife will not disappear in this scenario, but rather will be channeled into contests over valuable sources of water, food and energy.

Prior to Reid's address, the most significant expression of this outlook was a report prepared for the U.S. Department of Defense by a California-based consulting firm in October 2003. Entitled "An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security," the report warned that global climate change is more likely to result in sudden, cataclysmic environmental events than a gradual (and therefore manageable) rise in average temperatures. Such events could include a substantial increase in global sea levels, intense storms and hurricanes and continent-wide "dust bowl" effects. This would trigger pitched battles between the survivors of these effects for access to food, water, habitable land and energy supplies.

"Violence and disruption stemming from the stresses created by abrupt changes in the climate pose a different type of threat to national security than we are accustomed to today," the 2003 report noted. "Military confrontation may be triggered by a desperate need for natural resources such as energy, food and water rather than by conflicts over ideology, religion or national honor."

Until now, this mode of analysis has failed to command the attention of top American and British policymakers. For the most part, they insist that ideological and religious differences -- notably, the clash between values of tolerance and democracy on one hand and extremist forms of Islam on the other -- remain the main drivers of international conflict. But Reid's speech at Chatham House suggests that a major shift in strategic thinking may be under way. Environmental perils may soon dominate the world security agenda.

This shift is due in part to the growing weight of evidence pointing to a significant human role in altering the planet's basic climate systems. Recent studies showing the rapid shrinkage of the polar ice caps, the accelerated melting of North American glaciers, the increased frequency of severe hurricanes and a number of other such effects all suggest that dramatic and potentially harmful changes to the global climate have begun to occur. More importantly, they conclude that human behavior -- most importantly, the burning of fossil fuels in factories, power plants, and motor vehicles -- is the most likely cause of these changes. This assessment may not have yet penetrated the White House and other bastions of head-in-the-sand thinking, but it is clearly gaining ground among scientists and thoughtful analysts around the world.

For the most part, public discussion of global climate change has tended to describe its effects as an environmental problem -- as a threat to safe water, arable soil, temperate forests, certain species and so on. And, of course, climate change is a potent threat to the environment; in fact, the greatest threat imaginable. But viewing climate change as an environmental problem fails to do justice to the magnitude of the peril it poses. As Reid's speech and the 2003 Pentagon study make clear, the greatest danger posed by global climate change is not the degradation of ecosystems per se, but rather the disintegration of entire human societies, producing wholesale starvation, mass migrations and recurring conflict over resources.

"As famine, disease, and weather-related disasters strike due to abrupt climate change," the Pentagon report notes, "many countries' needs will exceed their carrying capacity" -- that is, their ability to provide the minimum requirements for human survival. This "will create a sense of desperation, which is likely to lead to offensive aggression" against countries with a greater stock of vital resources. "Imagine eastern European countries, struggling to feed their populations with a falling supply of food, water, and energy, eyeing Russia, whose population is already in decline, for access to its grain, minerals, and energy supply."

Similar scenarios will be replicated all across the planet, as those without the means to survival invade or migrate to those with greater abundance -- producing endless struggles between resource "haves" and "have-nots."

It is this prospect, more than anything, that worries John Reid. In particular, he expressed concern over the inadequate capacity of poor and unstable countries to cope with the effects of climate change, and the resulting risk of state collapse, civil war and mass migration. "More than 300 million people in Africa currently lack access to safe water," he observed, and "climate change will worsen this dire situation" -- provoking more wars like Darfur. And even if these social disasters will occur primarily in the developing world, the wealthier countries will also be caught up in them, whether by participating in peacekeeping and humanitarian aid operations, by fending off unwanted migrants or by fighting for access to overseas supplies of food, oil, and minerals.

When reading of these nightmarish scenarios, it is easy to conjure up images of desperate, starving people killing one another with knives, staves and clubs -- as was certainly often the case in the past, and could easily prove to be so again. But these scenarios also envision the use of more deadly weapons. "In this world of warring states," the 2003 Pentagon report predicted, "nuclear arms proliferation is inevitable." As oil and natural gas disappears, more and more countries will rely on nuclear power to meet their energy needs -- and this "will accelerate nuclear proliferation as countries develop enrichment and reprocessing capabilities to ensure their national security."

Although speculative, these reports make one thing clear: when thinking about the calamitous effects of global climate change, we must emphasize its social and political consequences as much as its purely environmental effects. Drought, flooding and storms can kill us, and surely will -- but so will wars among the survivors of these catastrophes over what remains of food, water and shelter. As Reid's comments indicate, no society, however affluent, will escape involvement in these forms of conflict.

We can respond to these predictions in one of two ways: by relying on fortifications and military force to provide some degree of advantage in the global struggle over resources, or by taking meaningful steps to reduce the risk of cataclysmic climate change.

No doubt there will be many politicians and pundits -- especially in this country -- who will tout the superiority of the military option, emphasizing America's preponderance of strength. By fortifying our borders and sea-shores to keep out unwanted migrants and by fighting around the world for needed oil supplies, it will be argued, we can maintain our privileged standard of living for longer than other countries that are less well endowed with instruments of power. Maybe so. But the grueling, inconclusive war in Iraq and the failed national response to Hurricane Katrina show just how ineffectual such instruments can be when confronted with the harsh realities of an unforgiving world. And as the 2003 Pentagon report reminds us, "constant battles over diminishing resources" will "further reduce [resources] even beyond the climatic effects."

Military superiority may provide an illusion of advantage in the coming struggles over vital resources, but it cannot protect us against the ravages of global climate change. Although we may be somewhat better off than the people in Haiti and Mexico, we, too, will suffer from storms, drought and flooding. As our overseas trading partners descend into chaos, our vital imports of food, raw materials and energy will disappear as well. True, we could establish military outposts in some of these places to ensure the continued flow of critical materials -- but the ever-increasing price in blood and treasure required to pay for this will eventually exceed our means and destroy us. Ultimately, our only hope of a safe and secure future lies in substantially reducing our emissions of greenhouse gases and working with the rest of the world to slow the pace of global climate change.

Michael Klare is a professor of peace and world security studies at Hampshire College in Amherst, Mass., and the author of Blood and Oil: The Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Petroleum Dependency.
 

FiveParadox

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Inappropriate: Mogz • Welcome • Response

Mogz, how dare you open your mouth, chastise, insult and all-but-verbally assault a first-time poster. Arguments are to be aired here at Canadian Content with respect and civility—insult the argument, fine, but do not insult the member. To do so is entirely unacceptable, and I would request that you withdraw your harsh and uncalled-for words immediately.

:arrow: An Overdue Welcome

Welcome, elevennevele, to Canadian Content. Contrary to what your first experience here may entail, I would encourage you to continue to post your well-articulated, formulated and respectful opinions on these forums. I hope to see you around the forum. If ever you need assistance, feel free to send me a private message, or contact one of our dedicated Moderators or Administrators.

:arrow: In Relation to the Mission in Afghanistan

The House of Commons has the right to discuss whatever matters it may deem appropriate and expedient at the time, including missions abroad. To undermine that right is to undermine the supremacy of Parliament and, by extension, our democracy here in Canada. If Members of Parliament believe that the subject matter of the mission should be discussed, then it should be.

While Canadians support the Canadian Armed Forces in their endeavours, that does not mean that we cannot change or reassess those endeavours, from time to time; controversy over the mission is reaching a peak and, therefore, in order to maintain confidence in the mission, it should be discussed at length in the House — and soon, at the hands of the Government of Canada, before it falls to the discretion of the Opposition.

:!: (Revision) Resolved a typing exception (third paragraph).
 

Mogz

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RE: What are we doing in

Mogz, I don,t care how many potatoes you pealed when you were in Afghanistan, you don,t have a clue why you were there you only know what they told you, and you keep repeating the propaganda like it meant something, every war
for the last forty years has used the same script your spouting, I,ve heard it all before over and over, the same stupid bullshit.

I'm not a cook beaver and we don't force soldiers to peel potatoes anymore. That said you never answered my question as I knew you wouldn't. You have no clue why we're in Afghanistan, you're just looking for something to blame on the U.S. and the Free Market Economy. In short, you've highlighted to everyone on these forums how ignorant you are. Lastly the "same script i'm spouting" could never apply to any war outside of the 21st Century as the very face of warfare has changed. We now fight three-block wars, something unlike any form of conflict we've ever seen. Therefore one can deduce that it is impossible for me to spout previous rhetoric as such rhetoric has never existed. I'll be fair though, and give you one last chance to tell me and the good people of these forums why you, of all people, know better than anyone (including soldiers that have served or are serving in Afghanistan) why our troops are in that region. Here's your big chance beaver, dazzle us with your knowledge of complex combined operations, external security, and the roles of our troops in a foreign land. I'm listening and so is everyone else.
 

Mogz

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RE: What are we doing in

Mogz, how dare you open your mouth, chastise, insult and all-but-verbally assault a first-time poster. Arguments are to be aired here at Canadian Content with respect and civility—insult the argument, fine, but do not insult the member. To do so is entirely unacceptable, and I would request that you withdraw your harsh and uncalled-for words immediately.

:roll: Freedom of speech. That is one of the rights you're propping up this week isn't it Five? Or do I have to be a minority to be covered by that one too? Anyway welcome to the forums Eleven, it's not my fault you embody everything i've been arguing against for the last week.
 

Alberta'sfinest

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RE: What are we doing in

Whenever people hear that I'm smart they automatically try to flame me. I've dealt with this all of my life, and you don't matter. You're just some people on the net that don't have the same info that I get, so I'm not suprised as you have just made conditioned responses. Conditioning is a major part of hiding the truth. Read my signature.

You guys sound very confident, even more than me that you are right. You shouldn't have a problem answering these simple questions.

We live in a world of scarce resources, what is the underlying problem? and what simple solution solves this problem? Hint: It's variable, while resources are finite. If you get them right, you'll know why I know that there is going to be a world war, as it will solve the problem.
 

I think not

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Well I realize I'm an outsider (being American), but thanks for risking your life, hunting them down "over there" rather than over here and for stabilizing the region for future generations.
 

I think not

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Re: RE: What are we doing in

Alberta'sfinest said:
Whenever people hear that I'm smart they automatically try to flame me. I've dealt with this all of my life, and you don't matter. You're just some people on the net that don't have the same info that I get, so I'm not suprised as you have just made conditioned responses. Conditioning is a major part of hiding the truth. Read my signature.

You guys sound very confident, even more than me that you are right. You shouldn't have a problem answering these simple questions.

We live in a world of scarce resources, what is the underlying problem? and what simple solution solves this problem? Hint: It's variable, while resources are finite. If you get them right, you'll know why I know that there is going to be a world war, as it will solve the problem.

What you suggest is finite is generations away, yet your gloom and doom predictions are right around the corner.
 

FiveParadox

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Rightly so; just because we may not be alive when that situation becomes a reality, does not mean that we should leave the problem exclusively to those that will be. Some situations warrant pre-emptive action, and I would suggest that resource management is one of them.

:arrow: Returning to the Topic

The only reason that I am advocating for the Government to call for a debate on the mission in Afghanistan, is so that the New Democratic Party of Canada doesn't have the chance to force an emergency debate or attempt to dismantle the mission from within the House of Commons (which could be quite possible, notwithstanding the Government's opposition, in the minority situation that the Government has found itself).
 

Said1

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Re: RE: What are we doing in

Alberta'sfinest said:
Whenever people hear that I'm smart they automatically try to flame me. I've dealt with this all of my life, and you don't matter. You're just some people on the net that don't have the same info that I get, so I'm not suprised as you have just made conditioned responses. Conditioning is a major part of hiding the truth. Read my signature.

No, I'm smarter. I scored the highest on ALL provincial tests, except spelling of course. When people here this, it irritates them because there really is no need to tell them, but I do anyway, because it justifys my anti-social behavior. I think my shrink might diagnoss it as a mild form of passive-aggression if he didn't think I was so freekin gifted too. See, I make remarks to turn people off, I set things up so people won't like me. Like those I accuse of being conditioned, I too am conditioned to repell people.

I should also point out (again) that when you make errors pertaining to the political culture of countries, that's bad. You should have asked me, I know everything. Unless I've had a few bong hits, then I have real delusions of gradure and self-importance.
 

Mogz

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RE: What are we doing in

Whenever people hear that I'm smart they automatically try to flame me. I've dealt with this all of my life, and you don't matter. You're just some people on the net that don't have the same info that I get, so I'm not suprised as you have just made conditioned responses. Conditioning is a major part of hiding the truth. Read my signature.

You guys sound very confident, even more than me that you are right. You shouldn't have a problem answering these simple questions.

We live in a world of scarce resources, what is the underlying problem? and what simple solution solves this problem? Hint: It's variable, while resources are finite. If you get them right, you'll know why I know that there is going to be a world war, as it will solve the problem.

So every time you boast about your stunning IQ, people flame you? Perhaps there's a reason there? I'm just going to hazard a guess and say most people don't like self-absorbed individuals. Did you know that people who have a high IQ lack basic social skills more often than not? I'm just saying...

With regard to your "super-secret ninja information", what's the source? Are you George Bush? On his cabinet? If the answer is no to both of those then there is no way you can know what actions his military will take and when. Couple that with the fact I utterly proved to you how impossible an attack on Iran would be in the timeline you set forth and I just see another, how did you put it; just some person on the net? Your posts are something akin to darkbeavers, full of outrageous predictions and baseless facts. I'm sorry, but i'm a realist, and I have little time for self-absorbed individuals. Do the things you write have merit? A few of them do. Do I agree that the Worlds resources are finite? Absolutely. Is the War in Iraq or the War in Afghanistan a precusor to some U.S. attempt to control the Worlds resources. No, they aren't. Maybe it was the fact that you opened with how great your IQ is, but I just put no stock in anything you say, especially when you deem you have "pertinent knowledge" on one hand, yet make stupid assumptions on the other. Call me a skeptic.
 

darkbeaver

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Re: RE: What are we doing in

Mogz said:
Mogz, I don,t care how many potatoes you pealed when you were in Afghanistan, you don,t have a clue why you were there you only know what they told you, and you keep repeating the propaganda like it meant something, every war
for the last forty years has used the same script your spouting, I,ve heard it all before over and over, the same stupid bullshit.

I'm not a cook beaver and we don't force soldiers to peel potatoes anymore. That said you never answered my question as I knew you wouldn't. You have no clue why we're in Afghanistan, you're just looking for something to blame on the U.S. and the Free Market Economy. In short, you've highlighted to everyone on these forums how ignorant you are. Lastly the "same script i'm spouting" could never apply to any war outside of the 21st Century as the very face of warfare has changed. We now fight three-block wars, something unlike any form of conflict we've ever seen. Therefore one can deduce that it is impossible for me to spout previous rhetoric as such rhetoric has never existed. I'll be fair though, and give you one last chance to tell me and the good people of these forums why you, of all people, know better than anyone (including soldiers that have served or are serving in Afghanistan) why our troops are in that region. Here's your big chance beaver, dazzle us with your knowledge of complex combined operations, external security, and the roles of our troops in a foreign land. I'm listening and so is everyone else.

Well you might as well be pealing potatoes, soldiers don,t make policy Mogz they follow orders, I posted a piece a few frames back
it,s called The Coming Resource Wars, thats what Afghanistan is Doughboy. I care nothing about your three block war bullshit and nobody else does, your a propaganda machine, if you believe we,re there implanting freedom and democracy and saving the western world from the taliban menace, fine, whatever turns your tiny little crank. Now phuck-off and don,t bother me no more.
 

FiveParadox

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FiveParadox steps into the centre of the thread with a white flag.

This debate, discussion, rant or whatever else one may call it, seems to be growing out of hand in terms of severity; perhaps all of the concerned parties (myself included, although on another thread) should step back for a few moments, step into the Conservative Lounge for a martini (since that is the only place I know of where martinis are served), and come back later?
 

I think not

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