Western civilisation could collapse

spilledthebeer

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High ground buddy. Who dominates the high ground?

WOW! LIE-berals and their anti western allies are FRANTIC to do or say ANYTHING that might daunt the increasingly angry western voters- even in some small way! No lie, no half truth, no outright fabrication of alternate reality is too trivial for them to skip!

One has only to look at \Palestinian reaction to the |United States moving its embassy to Jerusalem to recognize how biased and bigoted are Muslims generally and Palestininas especially!

Jerusalem was supposed to be the SHARED CAPITAL city of a Jewish state and a Palestinina state- but CLEARLY- Palestinians DO NOT INTEND TO SHARE ANYTHING!

The U.S. embassy COULD have served BOTH Israel and Palestine- but there WILL NEVER BE a Palestinian state because NOBODY can trust them not to break any peace treaty with MORE terrorist atrocities!

Palestine will NEVER be a state- as long as Palestinians hold their promise to drive Jews into the sea!

At this point- if there is to be peace in that region- Palestinians MUST be the ones to make it by adopting and holding to an honest deal- WITHOUT FIRST getting concessions from anybody!

Muslim terrorists have done so many dirty deeds around the world that Palestine MUST NOW JUMP THROUGH MANY HOOPS in order to regain ANY sense of trust from the rest of us!
 

Gilgamesh

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WOW! LIE-berals and their anti western allies are FRANTIC to do or say ANYTHING that might daunt the increasingly angry western voters- even in some small way! No lie, no half truth, no outright fabrication of alternate reality is too trivial for them to skip!

One has only to look at \Palestinian reaction to the |United States moving its embassy to Jerusalem to recognize how biased and bigoted are Muslims generally and Palestininas especially!

Jerusalem was supposed to be the SHARED CAPITAL city of a Jewish state and a Palestinina state- but CLEARLY- Palestinians DO NOT INTEND TO SHARE ANYTHING!

The U.S. embassy COULD have served BOTH Israel and Palestine- but there WILL NEVER BE a Palestinian state because NOBODY can trust them not to break any peace treaty with MORE terrorist atrocities!

Palestine will NEVER be a state- as long as Palestinians hold their promise to drive Jews into the sea!

At this point- if there is to be peace in that region- Palestinians MUST be the ones to make it by adopting and holding to an honest deal- WITHOUT FIRST getting concessions from anybody!

Muslim terrorists have done so many dirty deeds around the world that Palestine MUST NOW JUMP THROUGH MANY HOOPS in order to regain ANY sense of trust from the rest of us!
Wow! I've never seen low quality manure piled that high!

There seems to be a lot of Middle school dropouts on this site.
 

spilledthebeer

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Wow! I've never seen low quality manure piled that high!

There seems to be a lot of Middle school dropouts on this site.

Hey Gilgamush for brains- shouldn't you be out throwing rocks at Jews or canvassing for your favourite LIE-beral bigot during the Ontari-owe election?

Here is yet another article illustrating why it is not wise to let large numbers of devout Muslims immigrate to Canada as their most basic and fundamental values clash strongly with our Cdn values. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Girls as young as 9 can marry, Turkish religious body's Islamic glossary suggests.

(And is it not rather creepy that even though Turkey is the most modern and progressive of Muslim nations- they can still produce this radical CRAP?)

Associated Press. Published: January 4, 2018. Updated: January 4, 2018 9:32 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ World

By Suzan Fraser, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

ANKARA, Turkey — A suggestion by Turkey’s state religious affairs body that girls as young as nine could marry has sparked an outcry, including calls for an inquiry and the dismantling of the scandal-tainted organization.

(Turkey is a country dedicated to the separation of church and state- in a fairly western model but clearly radical Muslim forces are at work there- just as they are in all other western and middle eastern countries!)

Its online glossary of Islamic terms, which has since been removed, defined marriage as an institution that saves a person from adultery and said girls can marry when they reach puberty — as early as age nine, Turkish media reports said.

Our directorate has never in its history approved of child marriages and never will.
Diyanet

(But the Diyanet definition of “child” sounds rather close to pedophilia!)

Turkey’s main opposition party has called for an investigation into the Directorate of Religious Affairs, or Diyanet, accusing it of inciting underage marriages. Social media users joined a campaign demanding the closure of the body that oversees mosques and imams and has frequently courted controversy.

Diyanet vehemently denied approving underage marriages, saying that “our directorate has never in its history approved of child marriages and never will.”

Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag accused the media of manipulating definitions in the glossary to make the government look as though it supports child marriages. Bozdag added that it was the religious body’s duty to interpret terms according to Islamic laws, not civic laws.

The Diyanet previously caused fury for issuing an online fatwa, or religious ruling, suggesting that a father can lust after his daughter. That fatwa was quickly retracted. In other rulings, the Diyanet has said Muslims cannot marry non-Muslims and that engaged couples cannot be left alone or hold hands.

(One has to pity the poor moderate Muslims who have to live down the more ridiculous fatwas being issued by crackpots who seem to want deliberately to feed the most ugly of Muslim stereotypes! And one has to worry about Canada after a report a year back by 2 reporters who told us that the only voices at Cdn mosques and Muslim schools are radical ones- shouting down the moderates!)

The legal age for marriage in Turkey is 18. Women’s rights groups say underage marriage is widespread despite the laws and accuse authorities of not taking sufficient steps to protect girls from becoming “child brides.”

In 2016, the government scrapped a proposal that critics said would have allowed men accused of statutory rape to go free if they were married to their victims, following similar outrage.

(In some Muslim Sharia Law versions of woman’ rights, a woman who accuses a man of rape must provide FOUR MALE WITNESSES or else she will be charged with PERJURY! Some Muslims certainyl do have a more moderate view of womens issues but the great concern is that Our idiot Boy Justin is not doing nearly enough to weed out the crazy ones!)
 

Danbones

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Ok, but so when do we get the civilization part?
:)
That's what I was looking forward to.
 

Danbones

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Right...name one civilization that didn't collapse by its due date.
 

Gilgamesh

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True enough. Religion poisons everything.
 

JamesBondo

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To quote Winston Churchill: "democracy and capitalism don't look so good, until you compare them to any o the alternatives"!

And: "at age 16 a young man of conscience will be a communist, but at age 26 a man of experience will be a capitalist"!

One has only to look at the teeming millions who would jump on the first available jet to come here- if only we would open the borders and not be picky about who we let in! The value of capitalism is this: that at the height of South African apartheid- blacks were sneaking into that country because wages for black people were still TWENTY TIMES HIGHER than in black ruled dictatorships! It ain't pretty but its true!

some people say communism looks good on paper.

I don't know about you, but at age 16, I read the communist manifesto, and - in my opinion - it looks as f#cked up on paper as it does when it is put into practice.
 

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I think it was a guy named Oswald Spengler who said about 100 years ago that the West would decline and ultimately collapse. So far, his forecast has been wrong.

Hopefully, things will largely stay that way.
 

spilledthebeer

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Silly LIE-berals have got it WRONG!


It is not western civilization that is collapsing- IT IS THEIR POLICIES THAT ARE FALLING APART!


Being proven completely and decisively WRONG ON ALL COUNTS means the END of the LIE-beral world!!!!!




Here is an article illustrating how truly open minded NDPers really are when it is THEIR money under spending pressure. With some comments of my own in brackets):

New Democrat MPP Paul Miller blasts staff's union in spat over parental leave

By Antonella Artuso. Published: April 18, 2018. Updated: April 19, 2018 8:06 AM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

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Ontario NDP MPP Paul Miller criticized his staff’s union and questioned the dedication of an employee who took parental leave, according to a recorded voicemail message.

“Basically, sometimes unions do more harm than good,” Hamilton East-Stoney Creek MPP Paul Miller said. “And sometimes they get their people into bad situations.”

(Oh gee- but NDP has just told us that if they form the next govt, they will NOT use back to work legislation to compel greedy civil service union Hogs with a monopoly stranglehold on an essential service back to work if they remain as greedy as always and use their strike weapon to extort money from us! How could that policy turn and bite us on the ass? Maybe we should ask York U. Students what they think of NO back to work legislation since they are already dealing with the longest school strike in Cdn history while Ontari-owe govt is paralysed and mesmerized by the June election- with BOTH LIE-berals and NDP refusing to act for fear of further enraging their civil service union Hog supporters!)

Miller goes on to say several of his fellow NDP MPPs are having similar problems with COPE, the Canadian Office and Professional Employees International Union, which represents NDP staff at Queen’s Park.

(So NDP is very pleased with unions that EXTORT our money but unions that demand entitlements from NDP leaders are the enemy? Apparently so!)

This, while the Ontario NDP are campaigning in the provincial election on a promise to make it easier for workers to unionize and to access benefits like parental leave.

The voicemail, recorded in October 2016 and obtained by the Toronto Sun, was left for Todd White, who has filed several grievances with his union and recently a Human Rights complaint alleging he was bullied, demeaned and harassed because he took parental leave from his job in Miller’s constituency office.

The recording covers about three minutes of a longer voicemail message.

Miller complained that White was away from this constituency office for 10 months on parental leave and he heard from him maybe once, which he argued didn’t suggest loyalty or interest in the job.

“There’s going to be big changes, real quick, in the next few months or it’s going to be an ugly situation,” Miller said. “It’s not just my office – a lot of the MPPs are moving in that direction because they’re not happy with COPE’s activities. And COPE is really digging a hole for themselves…they’re putting you guys in a bad position.”

(Oh yes- the hypocrisy is STRONG with this one! Striking York U staff can force thousands of kids to put their lives on hold while staff seek to extort money- but let that happen in a NDP office and the WAR IS ON!)

When contacted by the Toronto Sun Wednesday about the voicemail, Miller said he had expressed his frustrations with White’s job performance on a number of occasions directly to him and through the Ontario NDP caucus to his union.

“These frustrations and concerns are now the subject of the grievances currently subject to arbitration,” Miller said in a statement. “I am confident that the process will resolve fairly, and demonstrate that I acted reasonably, in good faith, and consistent with my obligations under the collective agreement.”

(And yet NDPers are quite happy to lecture the rest of us about how we MUST hold jobs open for people who want the parental leave that people in the private sector do not usually dare to take in full- UNLIKE their civil service Hog betters!)

Miller’s statement did not address his comments about COPE.

White’s lawyer Wade Poziomka said the comments in the recording are inappropriate and reflect “antiquated” views that do not belong in a modern workplace.

(The comments reflect those of a harried boss in the REAL WORLD struggling to get work done by experienced workers who are missing from the job for reasons hypocrite NDPers suddenly do not consider good enough- FOR THEM!)

“An employee who takes time off when a new baby is born should not be seen as uncommitted to the workplace or as someone who does not take their job seriously,” Poziomka said in an email.

(It’s a lovely sentiment but many bosses- including holier than thou NDPers clearly disagree! Irony challenged Ndpers are no more fit to form a govt than Wynne-bag and her LIE-beral horde!)

Leader Andrea Horwath claimed in one media report that the NDP is the only party with unionized constituency workers, Poziomka noted.

(Oh- ANOTHER TELLING piece of hypocrisy! Only NDPers allow union workers into their offices- and then bitch when the union demands rights!)

“It seems that this unionized system and COPE in particular is something that Mr. Miller takes issue with and in fact may be blaming this system for the problems allegedly experienced in constituency offices,” he said.

“I would expect that the NDP, largely seen as a labour party, would be trumpeting the message that there is room for family and work and working against the view that devoting time to one means that someone is less committed to the other,” Poziomka said.

(I suggest the big story here is the NDP willing ness to sell us all out to civil service union Hogs in exchange for votes! And it is disgraceful that NDPers expect to force US to put up with even greater union entitlements- as their election olicy comes into effect- than the current rights that already SO CLEARLY ANNOY NDPers! NDP policy has joined LIE-beral policy- just spinning in circles like turds in a flushed toilet! We desperately need a plumber to drain the CRAP from Queens Park!)