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talloola

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For a two minute minor penalty?

did you not see what he did? he blatantly ran his shoulder directly into the head of sam bennet, it
was easy to spot, and bennet was obviously stunned for a few seconds from the hit.

the NHL can issue a suspension even for an infraction that was not noticed by the officials, and no
penalty was called at all.

i just read that todd mclellan is leaving as coach of san jose, not fired, it was
a mutually agreed decision after they sat together in a meeting. larry robinson is now in charge of all player development, and all assistant coaches including video coach were fired.

nothing on the nhl.com about hamhuis, maybe nothing is going to happen, burrows
will 'not' be suspended, which is only fair, as i mentioned above, they did
not suspend calgary player in vancouver who was also charge with being instigator.
 
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JLM

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did you not see what he did? he blatantly ran his shoulder directly into the head of sam bennet, it
was easy to spot, and bennet was obviously stunned for a few seconds from the hit.

the NHL can issue a suspension even for an infraction that was not noticed by the officials, and no
penalty was called at all.

It might be hard to prove it was intentional.
 

gerryh

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The fact that he drew blood on Bennett should be taken into consideration, in my opinion.
 

talloola

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It might be hard to prove it was intentional.

well, he wasn't going toward bennet saying to himself, "ok, i'm going to ram my shoulder into his
head', no, of course not, the game is very fast, things happen very fast, but it was careless,
and he could see what he was doing, most hits are like that, most are legit. some are not, but
almost every player does 'not' want to hurt the other guy, but it happens.

it doesn't have to be intentional, doesn't matter, a direct hit to the head
is a penalty, period, if done by another player, and he intentionally hit him
and the hit by his shoulder landed directly to his head.
i don't remember there being any blood, he didn't get a 4 minute penalty, it was in the ear area, not his face, he continued playing
the game.
because there is nothing on nhl.com it seems they are letting it slide, they
probably decided he wasn't targeting the head, even though the hit ended up
there, and it is playoffs, and it also seems that they are turning a blind
eye to certain events on the ice, unless they are blatant and dirty And
cause injury, such was the case when subban slashed stone, and he has an injury,
even though he is playing, he has two micro fractures in his wrist. i guess
they tape him up, and also apply a bit of freezing in that area to help with
pain while playing.

remember when jim robson said "he'll play, you know he'll play, he'll play on
crutches", talking about travor linden after winning playoff game many years
ago.
 
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talloola

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this winnipeg/anaheim game is as physical as i've ever seen a game, without playing oldtime goon hockey.

3rd period, with two teams who can match each other physically, its fun.

4-3 jets right now, going into overtime, 4-4

minnesota def. st. louis

new york def. pittsburg

Looks like all the Winnipeg fans are wearing Ducks jerseys.

yeah, does look like that, but i guess if everyone was in navy blue, it would be kind of dull.
 
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talloola

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Disappointing for sure, but methinks the handwriting was on the wall!

it is now, anaheim, like calgary has won many games this season when coming from behind in the
last period, not a good way to win games, but for both teams this year, it was successful.

if winnipeg had of won in OT, then game was on again, and they had a chance, games were close,
winnipeg is a strong team, big and able, but with getzlaf,perry and kesler, anaheim does have
the 3 high end players, (in playoffs), who can make a difference, winnipeg has tyler myers,
who is high end, and the rest of the team are good, some of them very good, but for the west
to send their very best to the stanley cup, they need their best to get there, and anaheim
is one of those team, as well as minnesota, chicago and ,maybe st. louis, those teams will represent
the west very well, playing for the cup, don't want the cup going east.
 

JLM

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it is now, anaheim, like calgary has won many games this season when coming from behind in the
last period, not a good way to win games, but for both teams this year, it was successful.

if winnipeg had of won in OT, then game was on again, and they had a chance, games were close,
winnipeg is a strong team, big and able, but with getzlaf,perry and kesler, anaheim does have
the 3 high end players, (in playoffs), who can make a difference, winnipeg has tyler myers,
who is high end, and the rest of the team are good, some of them very good, but for the west
to send their very best to the stanley cup, they need their best to get there, and anaheim
is one of those team, as well as minnesota, chicago and ,maybe st. louis, those teams will represent
the west very well, playing for the cup, don't want the cup going east.

Don't count the Canucks out yet, they'll be back on even keel tonight!:)
 

talloola

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Don't count the Canucks out yet, they'll be back on even keel tonight!:)

nothing in the playoffs is impossible until a team is knocked out, but i am realistic, and just because
i am a canuck follower doesn't make me want them to win as a fluke, they are not the best team in the
west, and 'that' is the team i want to win.
yeah, i know canucks could win this series, then they could knock off winn. or anah, then they could
knock off either chicago, minnesota, nashville or st. louis, but what kind of hockey would those teams
be playing if that happened, they would all have to be 'on' something. canucks have beAten st. louis
all year, for some reason they had their number, but i also don't think st. louis is going to get
through, for those same reasons, they have set backs now and then, so we'll see how they do.
winnipeg could easily be up 3 games to 0 over anaheim, as the series was 'played' that close, just
happened anaheim do have that knack of rising to the occasion at the very end, to win, at least that
is how they played this season, but if anaheim get past winnipeg, they better not play that way
against the other teams, they might not be that fortunate all the way through, but they are a good
team.

to me it seems quite nieve to just watch their games and think that somehow they might go all the way,
i can't watch hockey that way, i don't wear rose colored glasses. if upsets happen, then so be it, but
i know who the best teams are in the west, and if those teams play their best they will go through to
the stanley cup playoffs, not canucks, not this year, but wierder things have happened i guess, and
if you want to wait for that with your fingers crossed, be my guest. lol

that game last night wasone of the most exciting games i have watched this year, those two teams can really play at an extremely high clip, big physical talented players, a bit more talent in anaheim,
but the games have been very even, and very good. if a team played against canucks with the energy
and physicality that winn. And anah. played last night, canucks would be totally domineered, they
don't have the size on the team to handle that, but hopefully they will build a bit bigger over the
next couple of years, and be able to cope with that kind of strength.

if calgary or vancouver players were hit like some of the hits i saw last night, they would either be
injured or so upset, they would want to fight, but i noticed those teams last night, traded hit for hit,
and stood tall, didn't whine and complain, didn't fight, just kept roling along, thats real hockey, legal
hits, except a couple by the big buffalo, but he sat his 2 minutes for them.

hope no high end players get injured in the playoffs, from 'any' of the teams.
 

JLM

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nothing in the playoffs is impossible until a team is knocked out, but i am realistic, and just because
i am a canuck follower doesn't make me want them to win as a fluke, they are not the best team in the
west, and 'that' is the team i want to win.
yeah, i know canucks could win this series, then they could knock off winn. or anah, then they could
knock off either chicago, minnesota, nashville or st. louis, but what kind of hockey would those teams
be playing if that happened, they would all have to be 'on' something. canucks have beAten st. louis
all year, for some reason they had their number, but i also don't think st. louis is going to get
through, for those same reasons, they have set backs now and then, so we'll see how they do.
winnipeg could easily be up 3 games to 0 over anaheim, as the series was 'played' that close, just
happened anaheim do have that knack of rising to the occasion at the very end, to win, at least that
is how they played this season, but if anaheim get past winnipeg, they better not play that way
against the other teams, they might not be that fortunate all the way through, but they are a good
team.

to me it seems quite nieve to just watch their games and think that somehow they might go all the way,
i can't watch hockey that way, i don't wear rose colored glasses. if upsets happen, then so be it, but
i know who the best teams are in the west, and if those teams play their best they will go through to
the stanley cup playoffs, not canucks, not this year, but wierder things have happened i guess, and
if you want to wait for that with your fingers crossed, be my guest. lol

that game last night wasone of the most exciting games i have watched this year, those two teams can really play at an extremely high clip, big physical talented players, a bit more talent in anaheim,
but the games have been very even, and very good. if a team played against canucks with the energy
and physicality that winn. And anah. played last night, canucks would be totally domineered, they
don't have the size on the team to handle that, but hopefully they will build a bit bigger over the
next couple of years, and be able to cope with that kind of strength.

if calgary or vancouver players were hit like some of the hits i saw last night, they would either be
injured or so upset, they would want to fight, but i noticed those teams last night, traded hit for hit,
and stood tall, didn't whine and complain, didn't fight, just kept roling along, thats real hockey, legal
hits, except a couple by the big buffalo, but he sat his 2 minutes for them.

hope no high end players get injured in the playoffs, from 'any' of the teams.

Perhaps what the Canucks lack in speed and size they make up for in experience.

Canucks are pretty evenly matched with the Rangers as far as size and experience goes.
 
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talloola

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Perhaps what the Canucks lack in speed and size they make up for in experience.

Canucks are pretty evenly matched with the Rangers as far as size and experience goes.

not talent, rangers have more high end players, have played much better hockey all year than the
canucks, they in my opinion are much better prepared for a long playoff run.


one cAn use the experience theory, when playing a team without experience, such as calgary, but that
is disappearing as they play each game, one could see first half of first game, the tentative approach
to the playoffs, but before that game was over they were beginning to 'get it', hence, they won the
game.
i can't think of a team that canucks have experience over, who are in the playoffs, except calgary.
maybe winnipeg, but they are in the process of gaining that valuable experience now.

tampa bay have great speed, youth, and steven stamkos. the islanders are in tough with washington,who have
ovetchkin, and other good players.
but islanders have john tavares, and a group of young and older players, and they are fast too.
montreal can be beaten by the canucks, if they can score on price, their team is middle of the road,
without price.
ottawa are young and experienced, and they have eric karlsson, wonderful skater, a defensemen who
quarterbacks the back end, and the team is on fire right now, but can't quite beat price either.
if pittsburgh get by new york, they will be hard to beat, but they aren't going to do that.
if detroit get by tampa bay, canucks could possibly beat detroit, but detroit won't make it that far,
you forgot to mention all of teams before canucks would ever meet rangers, how about them.,


if rangers make it to the stanley cup finals, they will have gone through very very good teams.
detroit, and either islanders or pittsburg, then the division winner of the other division,
they will be ready, and they could be beat out by any of those teams along the way, those teams
are also good enough to win the cup, if all goes well for them.

i'm not quite sure why you are trying to turn canucks into a top contender, so many fans do that to their
own team, 'then', when they don't make it, they trash them for not being good enough, and want everyone fired,
millionaire spoiled brats, poor coaching, bad g.m.,. the team has done well this year, now if they get
by calgary, even better.
but i can just hear the 'fans' when they are finally knocked out, it will be comical, cause the fans
get mad, and then its all about them, won't watch any more, won't buy a ticket any more, (if they ever did),
will write letters to the management, mad mad mad, as though it was done to them. lol lol
i'm allready hearing the media trying to stir up controversy, cAuse they want the sedins played more,
think they can't win cause they need 2 more minutes of ice time each game, hillarious, and most of those
team 1040 guys don'T really know much about the game to begin with, but think they know it all.

injuries play a big part along the way for everyone.

if canucks ever got to the cup final, the experience thing would be long time 'out the window'.