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Romans 1:26-28

That was Paul, not Jesus. It's still awefully obscure and vague. Jesus said exactly zero on the subject. Now, if it were that important, would have made a point of mentioning it directly, don't you think?
 

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That was Paul, not Jesus. It's still awefully obscure and vague. Jesus said exactly zero on the subject. Now, if it were that important, would have made a point of mentioning it directly, don't you think?



You didn't say "Jesus", you said new testament.


The New Testament doesn't mention it once. The old Jewish law part does ... a bit ... right around the part that says you can't eat Bacon and Lobster on a cheese melt.


Now, there are those that "interpret" what Jesus said about marriage to be a condemnation of homosexuality. Would you like that quote?

and if you had read through the link that cannuck supplied, you would have seen there is more than just corinthians.
 

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You didn't say "Jesus", you said new testament.





Now, there are those that "interpret" what Jesus said about marriage to be a condemnation of homosexuality. Would you like that quote?

and if you had read through the link that cannuck supplied, you would have seen there is more than just corinthians.

The one in Matthew? If you read it again, it sounds like Jesus being ironic about adherence to old Jewish law and how unnecessary it is to continue being so.
 

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The one in Matthew? If you read it again, it sounds like Jesus being ironic about adherence to old Jewish law and how unnecessary it is to continue being so.


Yup, a matter of interpretation. The same thing can be said about most of the Bible.
 

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Yup, a matter of interpretation. The same thing can be said about most of the Bible.

Yup. Haters use it as an instrument to hate, though and that part just has to be wrong if the underlying message of Jesus's teaching is right.
 

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Oh, since we're quoting the good books...

"You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." Leviticus 25:44-46

Clearly Christians are pro slavery
I know you don't understand anything about Christianity, but it's about this guy called Christ, and is based on the New Testament, which supersedes the old Jewish testament.

Besides which you'd be hard-pressed today to find any Christian country with slavery, but it exits in a number of Muslim countries, including Egypt.
 

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I know you don't understand anything about Christianity, but it's about this guy called Christ, and is based on the New Testament, which supersedes the old Jewish testament.

Besides which you'd be hard-pressed today to find any Christian country with slavery, but it exits in a number of Muslim countries, including Egypt.

The Amish sure as heck didn't keep slaves. There are Christians and there are Christians.
 

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Our immigration policy is one of the best even the Americans cite ours as progress.

The only American who cites ours is Donald Trump, who knows nothing about it. The US immigration system succeeds in bringing in more economically successful immigrants than ours does.

Takes nearly two years of vetting to get a pass.

There is virtually no vetting. It's all done by mailing in your paperwork. There is no personal interview, and candidates are only screened for criminal record and inclusion on known lists of terrorists. There is a points system whereby the idea is that people with higher points are more likely to succeed, but the immigrants are more and more likely to be unemployed or living in poor jobs that have them living in poverty according to numerous reports over the past decade.

We are around thirty million and we need more not less

There is no recognized economic reason for increasing our population.

According to a report from the Fraser Institute the cost of importing so many failed immigrants each year is $30 billion each year to various levels of government.
 

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I know you don't understand anything about Christianity, but it's about this guy called Christ, and is based on the New Testament, which supersedes the old Jewish testament.

Besides which you'd be hard-pressed today to find any Christian country with slavery, but it exits in a number of Muslim countries, including Egypt.



and the NT does not condemn slavery in any way. As a matter of fact, it could be said it supports it.
 

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and the NT does not condemn slavery in any way. As a matter of fact, it could be said it supports it.
The point you continue to ignore is it's not about what is written in a book but how its followers interpret it. And we can see from the various surveys like PEW, and from simple observation, that vast numbers in the Muslim world interpret it in a harsh, rigid and violent fashion.
 

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The point you continue to ignore is it's not about what is written in a book but how its followers interpret it. And we can see from the various surveys like PEW, and from simple observation, that vast numbers in the Muslim world interpret it in a harsh, rigid and violent fashion.


and yet you keep talking about what the Quran says rather than what the vast majority of Muslims do.
 

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The point you continue to ignore is it's not about what is written in a book but how its followers interpret it. And we can see from the various surveys like PEW, and from simple observation, that vast numbers in the Muslim world interpret it in a harsh, rigid and violent fashion.

Quite the opposite actually. You need to judge Shakespeare on his own merits, not on how your neighbour interprets him.
 

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Oh, since we're quoting the good books...

"You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." Leviticus 25:44-46

Clearly Christians are pro slavery
Which Christian text is that written in ?